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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @nzzp possibly, but Irelands off-load game was pretty good (possibly more a reflection on our defence...?) all in all, most of our game is pretty disjointed and out of whack, predictable and stale.

    Def need some new ideas in there, especially in defence, if our defence gets stronger again, it will pressure the other teams attack more too, which in turn will likely create oppotunities anyway.

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    @nzzp possibly, but thier off-load game was pretty good...all in all, most of our game is pretty disjointed and out of whack, predictable and stale.

    Def need some new ideas in there, especially in defence, if our defence gets stronger again, it will pressure the other teams attack more too, which in turn will likely create oppotunities anyway.

    hell yes. give them the ball on half way, bend, bend, bend, scramble on your line is a dangerous proposition.

    though in the last test it was more give the ball back on half way, get picked apart until linebreak appears in a few phases, concede points

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

      @nzzp possibly, but thier off-load game was pretty good...all in all, most of our game is pretty disjointed and out of whack, predictable and stale.

      Def need some new ideas in there, especially in defence, if our defence gets stronger again, it will pressure the other teams attack more too, which in turn will likely create oppotunities anyway.

      hell yes. give them the ball on half way, bend, bend, bend, scramble on your line is a dangerous proposition.

      though in the last test it was more give the ball back on half way, get picked apart until linebreak appears in a few phases, concede points

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      @mariner4life straight through our passive defence...

      While I am not convinced Fozzie is right to take us forward, I think the biggest issue right now, is our defence.

      The attack can come back to a little luck, and if you are playing poorly, you dont get any!

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @mariner4life straight through our passive defence...

        While I am not convinced Fozzie is right to take us forward, I think the biggest issue right now, is our defence.

        The attack can come back to a little luck, and if you are playing poorly, you dont get any!

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        @taniwharugby What a good defence does is keep you in games even if your attack isn't clicking.

        Our defence isn't keeping us in the grind because we give up early tries so are on the back foot immediately.

        We then continue to leak points.

        Good defence can also frustrate teams and lead to errors which create counter attack opportunities.

        England's attack wasn't working on the weekend either but they held Australia to 17 points and won the series.

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          @taniwharugby What a good defence does is keep you in games even if your attack isn't clicking.

          Our defence isn't keeping us in the grind because we give up early tries so are on the back foot immediately.

          We then continue to leak points.

          Good defence can also frustrate teams and lead to errors which create counter attack opportunities.

          England's attack wasn't working on the weekend either but they held Australia to 17 points and won the series.

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          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

          Good defence can also frustrate teams and lead to errors which create counter attack opportunities.

          yep, and then as confidence builds, passes start to stick...all intertwined!

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            the other damning part for the ABs is, our game is set up to punish poor kicking and turnovers. We can't generate any fucking turnovers because we cannot win a collision in defense, we are constantly scrambling. Ireland not only kept the ball, they consistently got quick ball when they wanted it.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @mariner4life straight through our passive defence...

              While I am not convinced Fozzie is right to take us forward, I think the biggest issue right now, is our defence.

              The attack can come back to a little luck, and if you are playing poorly, you dont get any!

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              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

              I think the biggest issue right now, is our defence.

              It's a huge issue. Although for me it's the second worst behind the general play of the tight forwards

              Coventry or Ryan & Ellison or McGrath could make an impact

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                the other damning part for the ABs is, our game is set up to punish poor kicking and turnovers. We can't generate any fucking turnovers because we cannot win a collision in defense, we are constantly scrambling. Ireland not only kept the ball, they consistently got quick ball when they wanted it.

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                @mariner4life We seemed to have a little more success in test 1 (i.e. when Schmidt was involved) with counter rucking to generate turnovers, something the Blues under Schmidt also did.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @mariner4life We seemed to have a little more success in test 1 (i.e. when Schmidt was involved) with counter rucking to generate turnovers, something the Blues under Schmidt also did.

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                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                  @mariner4life We seemed to have a little more success in test 1 (i.e. when Schmidt was involved) with counter rucking to generate turnovers, something the Blues under Schmidt also did.

                  We also defended well in test 1?

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                    When's the squad named? The first game is only two and a half weeks away.

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                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                      @mariner4life We seemed to have a little more success in test 1 (i.e. when Schmidt was involved) with counter rucking to generate turnovers, something the Blues under Schmidt also did.

                      We also defended well in test 1?

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                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                      @mariner4life We seemed to have a little more success in test 1 (i.e. when Schmidt was involved) with counter rucking to generate turnovers, something the Blues under Schmidt also did.

                      We also defended well in test 1?

                      well, we scrambled on our line, but there was some damning signs in hindsight that we sort of ignored while gazing giddily at the 42 points

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        When's the squad named? The first game is only two and a half weeks away.

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                        @antipodean said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                        When's the squad named? The first game is only two and a half weeks away.

                        was just wondering that, and you imagine they will leave at least a week before hand

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                          When's the squad named? The first game is only two and a half weeks away.

                          was just wondering that, and you imagine they will leave at least a week before hand

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                          @Kiwiwomble reckon Fozzie will wanna go early, get away from all the noise here...

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                          • DuluthD Duluth

                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                            I think the biggest issue right now, is our defence.

                            It's a huge issue. Although for me it's the second worst behind the general play of the tight forwards

                            Coventry or Ryan & Ellison or McGrath could make an impact

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                            @Duluth it’s defense but also retaining possession so you are not always defending.

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                            • broughieB broughie

                              @Duluth it’s defense but also retaining possession so you are not always defending.

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                              @broughie https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/the-new-men-the-all-blacks-might-call-upon-for-the-rugby-championship/ar-AAZKpp0?ocid=ACERDHP17&li=AAgfLCP

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                              • antipodeanA antipodean

                                When's the squad named? The first game is only two and a half weeks away.

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                                @antipodean said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                When's the squad named? The first game is only two and a half weeks away.

                                The word is tomorrow.

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                  @mariner4life We seemed to have a little more success in test 1 (i.e. when Schmidt was involved) with counter rucking to generate turnovers, something the Blues under Schmidt also did.

                                  We also defended well in test 1?

                                  well, we scrambled on our line, but there was some damning signs in hindsight that we sort of ignored while gazing giddily at the 42 points

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                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                  @mariner4life We seemed to have a little more success in test 1 (i.e. when Schmidt was involved) with counter rucking to generate turnovers, something the Blues under Schmidt also did.

                                  We also defended well in test 1?

                                  well, we scrambled on our line, but there was some damning signs in hindsight that we sort of ignored while gazing giddily at the 42 points

                                  Not me and @Bones. We warned ya! You fluffybunnies really should take more notice of what we 'say'.

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                                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                    @mariner4life We seemed to have a little more success in test 1 (i.e. when Schmidt was involved) with counter rucking to generate turnovers, something the Blues under Schmidt also did.

                                    We also defended well in test 1?

                                    well, we scrambled on our line, but there was some damning signs in hindsight that we sort of ignored while gazing giddily at the 42 points

                                    Not me and @Bones. We warned ya! You fluffybunnies really should take more notice of what we 'say'.

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                                    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                    @mariner4life We seemed to have a little more success in test 1 (i.e. when Schmidt was involved) with counter rucking to generate turnovers, something the Blues under Schmidt also did.

                                    We also defended well in test 1?

                                    well, we scrambled on our line, but there was some damning signs in hindsight that we sort of ignored while gazing giddily at the 42 points

                                    Not me and @Bones. We warned ya! You fluffybunnies really should take more notice of what we 'say'.

                                    i went back and read my post, and while i was a bit giddy, i did highlight how easily they picked us apart when they managed to settle.

                                    turns out they got themselves very fucking settled

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                                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                                      When's the squad named? The first game is only two and a half weeks away.

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                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                      When's the squad named? The first game is only two and a half weeks away.

                                      After the coach is named. Hopefully.

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                                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                        @mariner4life We seemed to have a little more success in test 1 (i.e. when Schmidt was involved) with counter rucking to generate turnovers, something the Blues under Schmidt also did.

                                        We also defended well in test 1?

                                        well, we scrambled on our line, but there was some damning signs in hindsight that we sort of ignored while gazing giddily at the 42 points

                                        Not me and @Bones. We warned ya! You fluffybunnies really should take more notice of what we 'say'.

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                                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                        @mariner4life We seemed to have a little more success in test 1 (i.e. when Schmidt was involved) with counter rucking to generate turnovers, something the Blues under Schmidt also did.

                                        We also defended well in test 1?

                                        well, we scrambled on our line, but there was some damning signs in hindsight that we sort of ignored while gazing giddily at the 42 points

                                        Not me and @Bones. We warned ya! You fluffybunnies really should take more notice of what we 'say'.

                                        You are succinct but with @Bones there is a bit of "static."

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                                        • broughieB broughie

                                          @Duluth it’s defense but also retaining possession so you are not always defending.

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                                          @broughie while our props did do a bit more of the grunt work around the park, coupled with Taylor being off his game, we are generally leaving the load on our locks and loosies, and our aging locks dont need the extra load.

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