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  • number9N Offline
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    #701

    Hold on?????? Where the hell is Cullen Grace ??????????????????????? I have only just realised that he has not been selected. Bloody ridiculous.

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    • P ploughboy

      @Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

      @mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

      realistically, what actual changes are available up front?

      Bower will deservedly stay
      ST can come in to hooker
      Both our tightheads are shit
      Retallick is out so Barrett in with Whitelock
      Cane is captain and Ardie must start so that means a change at 6? or Save shifts to 6 and a new #8 brought in

      That's it. That's what can be done.

      That's a realistic assessment.

      For all the wailing, there's no Jesus forwards waiting in the wings. I'm somewhat desperately and even hypocritically (because I've never been a massive fan) suggesting Jager, because he might be marginally better than what we've picked.

      Having stuck with Sam Cane, we're going to be stuck with an unbalanced loose trio.

      Sami T. can provide some modest improvement at hooker.

      The big call they could have made is to bring in the unready Crusaders props - Newell and Williams - at least as apprentices - in the hope that by this time next year they'll be test ready.

      There's a bit more that can be done in the backs.

      i thought they may have bought newell in as well . williams is wonder if he has fitness required after watching him playing for the Maori

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      #702

      @ploughboy Williams is massive so I doubt he's got much stamina.

      May never be a starter, but, as a bench prop he could eventually be devastating for 30 minutes.

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @ploughboy Williams is massive so I doubt he's got much stamina.

        May never be a starter, but, as a bench prop he could eventually be devastating for 30 minutes.

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        #703

        @Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

        @ploughboy Williams is massive so I doubt he's got much stamina.

        May never be a starter, but, as a bench prop he could eventually be devastating for 30 minutes.

        which is fine to when he has to play 60 + minute

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        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

          You can ask me a hundred times what that is and I won't be able to give you an answer just yet. I'd like you to bear with me, but we've got things in place right now and as soon as I can let you know a couple changes I'll let you know as soon as possible.

          @Chris-B sounds like dry powder is back. I was getting a bit worried after we last saw a couple of scoops of it in the RWC19 quarter-final, but left drums of it in the hotel lobby before the semi-final.

          Take a punt on de Groot against the Boks.

          Play Scott Barrett for 80 and rotate the other locks.

          Jordan at fullback.

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          #704

          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

          You can ask me a hundred times what that is and I won't be able to give you an answer just yet. I'd like you to bear with me, but we've got things in place right now and as soon as I can let you know a couple changes I'll let you know as soon as possible.

          @Chris-B sounds like dry powder is back. I was getting a bit worried after we last saw a couple of scoops of it in the RWC19 quarter-final, but left drums of it in the hotel lobby before the semi-final.

          Take a punt on de Groot against the Boks.

          Play Scott Barrett for 80 and rotate the other locks.

          Jordan at fullback.

          Richie at 10, Will at fullback is certainly worth a crack.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            realistically, what actual changes are available up front?

            Bower will deservedly stay
            ST can come in to hooker
            Both our tightheads are shit
            Retallick is out so Barrett in with Whitelock
            Cane is captain and Ardie must start so that means a change at 6? or Save shifts to 6 and a new #8 brought in

            That's it. That's what can be done.

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            #705

            @mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

            realistically, what actual changes are available up front?

            Bower will deservedly stay
            ST can come in to hooker
            Both our tightheads are shit
            Retallick is out so Barrett in with Whitelock
            Cane is captain and Ardie must start so that means a change at 6? or Save shifts to 6 and a new #8 brought in

            That's it. That's what can be done.

            Well I for one was hoping for a coach who might have a clue about what to do with those players. Insane, I know.

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              #706

              https://twitter.com/SENZAfternoons/status/1550315699524235264

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              • Chester DrawsC Online
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                Chester Draws
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                #707

                What are you guys on?

                Foster has just kept the same squad, except getting a couple of players back in, who we know he had hard-ons for.

                He's going to play the same team in Test 1 in SA that he did in Test 1 vs Ireland.

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  realistically, what actual changes are available up front?

                  Bower will deservedly stay
                  ST can come in to hooker
                  Both our tightheads are shit
                  Retallick is out so Barrett in with Whitelock
                  Cane is captain and Ardie must start so that means a change at 6? or Save shifts to 6 and a new #8 brought in

                  That's it. That's what can be done.

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                  Duluth
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #708

                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                  realistically, what actual changes are available up front?

                  Bower will deservedly stay
                  ST can come in to hooker
                  Both our tightheads are shit
                  Retallick is out so Barrett in with Whitelock
                  Cane is captain and Ardie must start so that means a change at 6? or Save shifts to 6 and a new #8 brought in

                  That's it. That's what can be done.

                  Two changes in the tight 5 IMO. S Barrett returns and ST to start

                  Cane is captain and Savea & Ioane were two of the best players last Test. So no changes in the loosies.
                  What they do with the bench is more interesting. Hopefully Sotutu is given a chance

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                  • number9N number9

                    Someone educate me. Where is the raft of changes that was promised?
                    Smae ol', same ol' if you ask me.

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                    @number9 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                    Someone educate me. Where is the raft of changes that was promised?
                    Smae ol', same ol' if you ask me.

                    Foster wants us to trust him. Changes behind scenes apparently.

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                    • P ploughboy

                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                      @ploughboy Williams is massive so I doubt he's got much stamina.

                      May never be a starter, but, as a bench prop he could eventually be devastating for 30 minutes.

                      which is fine to when he has to play 60 + minute

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                      #710

                      @ploughboy said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                      @ploughboy Williams is massive so I doubt he's got much stamina.

                      May never be a starter, but, as a bench prop he could eventually be devastating for 30 minutes.

                      which is fine to when he has to play 60 + minute

                      Our current tightheads seem to struggle with that, as well.

                      Maybe we can innovate and pick five props?

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                      • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                        Fuck sake give us Grace, Robinson or MMT over Frizell.

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                        #711

                        @Yeetyaah said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                        Fuck sake give us Grace, Robinson or MMT over Frizell.

                        I’d take Jerry Collins over Frizell, and he’s dead.

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                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                          @number9 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                          Someone educate me. Where is the raft of changes that was promised?
                          Smae ol', same ol' if you ask me.

                          Foster wants us to trust him. Changes behind scenes apparently.

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                          #712

                          @nostrildamus he promised they are keen to get stuck in, and try their hardest!

                          Hopefully on the plane to SA Fozzie will watch the opening 10 mins of each test over and over to see what Ireland do with the ball, and McLeod watches thier connected aggressive d line to realise rugby defence is still attacking the opposition, not sitting back waiting for them to get to you to make the tackle.

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                          • TimT Away
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                            #713

                            Wouldn't be surprised to see this forward pack:

                            1 Bower
                            2 Taylor
                            3 Laulala
                            4 Whitelock
                            5 Barrett
                            6 Ioane
                            7 Cane
                            8 Savea

                            16 Taukei'aho
                            17 Ross
                            18 Tu'ungufasi
                            19 Tuipulotu
                            20 Papalii

                            There will be a minor attack plan tweak, if we are lucky. No changes to defence.

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              @nostrildamus he promised they are keen to get stuck in, and try their hardest!

                              Hopefully on the plane to SA Fozzie will watch the opening 10 mins of each test over and over to see what Ireland do with the ball, and McLeod watches thier connected aggressive d line to realise rugby defence is still attacking the opposition, not sitting back waiting for them to get to you to make the tackle.

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                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                              @nostrildamus he promised they are keen to get stuck in, and try their hardest!

                              Which means they weren't and didn't before? Well that encourages me.

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @nostrildamus he promised they are keen to get stuck in, and try their hardest!

                                Hopefully on the plane to SA Fozzie will watch the opening 10 mins of each test over and over to see what Ireland do with the ball, and McLeod watches thier connected aggressive d line to realise rugby defence is still attacking the opposition, not sitting back waiting for them to get to you to make the tackle.

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                                #715

                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                @nostrildamus he promised they are keen to get stuck in, and try their hardest!

                                Hopefully on the plane to SA Fozzie will watch the opening 10 mins of each test over and over to see what Ireland do with the ball, and McLeod watches thier connected aggressive d line to realise rugby defence is still attacking the opposition, not sitting back waiting for them to get to you to make the tackle.

                                It's exciting! They're excited!

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                                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                  @nostrildamus he promised they are keen to get stuck in, and try their hardest!

                                  Which means they weren't and didn't before? Well that encourages me.

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                                  I just don't think Laulala is starting AB test material anymore. Sadly.

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                                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                    I just don't think Laulala is starting AB test material anymore. Sadly.

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                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                    I just don't think Laulala is starting AB test material anymore. Sadly.

                                    Wonder how many more tests before the AB coaches figure it out?

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                      I just don't think Laulala is starting AB test material anymore. Sadly.

                                      Wonder how many more tests before the AB coaches figure it out?

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                      I just don't think Laulala is starting AB test material anymore. Sadly.

                                      Wonder how many more tests before the AB coaches figure it out?

                                      and if Taylor starts any more tests...and I guess not all of the lineout issues is due to him but he is likely a factor.

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                                      • number9N Offline
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                                        So they retained Cane and there are no changes to the inept coaching staff. Fuck me, the Boks are going to smash us up front.

                                        At this rate we will be kicked out in the QF. France v Boks RWC Final. And we slump to #6 on the RWC rankings. Need to get rid of this absolutely useless, gultess prick.

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          @nostrildamus he promised they are keen to get stuck in, and try their hardest!

                                          Hopefully on the plane to SA Fozzie will watch the opening 10 mins of each test over and over to see what Ireland do with the ball, and McLeod watches thier connected aggressive d line to realise rugby defence is still attacking the opposition, not sitting back waiting for them to get to you to make the tackle.

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                                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                          @nostrildamus he promised they are keen to get stuck in, and try their hardest!

                                          Yeah, but that’s not enough is it? Keenness is the very least we expect, so saying it is simply a truism. I’m sure the team was keen before T3 as well, but they still got their arses handed to them, so what’s new?

                                          If they want us to praise them for participating they can fuck off. Win or they’re no good to us.

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