Springboks v All Blacks 2
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Just watching the game now. After 30 minutes the Boks are gassed and their runners are getting isolated. Their starting front row was pretty shite, especially the hooker (did he throw one straight?). Even when Mo'unga chip kicked out of the 22, they were struggling to use the ball, and Whitelock got the turnover (good Rieko Ioane tackle, only one Bok supporting the carrier).
Better link play from forwards so far. Cane's best game in a while.
AB defence a step us this week.
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Rieko really benefitted from us playing deeper on attack. It was great to see him able to run onto the ball and get a head of steam up before getting to the defensive line, he had a number of strong carries as a result throughout the match and grew in confidence.
@No-Quarter said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Rieko really benefitted from us playing deeper on attack. It was great to see him able to run into the ball and get a head of steam up before getting to the defensive line, he had a number of string carries as a result throughout the match and grew in confidence.
Anyone who says he's not a centre after that running and passing game obviously made up their mind 18 months ago and just refuses to change it.
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@No-Quarter said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Rieko really benefitted from us playing deeper on attack. It was great to see him able to run into the ball and get a head of steam up before getting to the defensive line, he had a number of string carries as a result throughout the match and grew in confidence.
Anyone who says he's not a centre after that running and passing game obviously made up their mind 18 months ago and just refuses to change it.
Who looked the better 12? QT or DH?
Jordan was in recovery from illness wasn't he? I would not expect him to be 100%.Hope to see more of the younger props-the older ones just haven't been stepping up IMHO.
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@Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Am's a very good player but fuck me Clarke should never have missed that tackle.
That was a really soft miss, absolutely no mitigation.
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@Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Am's a very good player but fuck me Clarke should never have missed that tackle.
That was a really soft miss, absolutely no mitigation.
@mariner4life The short bomb exit from the 22 to no one by Havili was crazy.
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@mariner4life The short bomb exit from the 22 to no one by Havili was crazy.
@Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@mariner4life The short bomb exit from the 22 to no one by Havili was crazy.
The whole game changes right there. I don't know but it looks like he got caught in 2 minds about long or high and so just fluffed it.
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@mariner4life The short bomb exit from the 22 to no one by Havili was crazy.
@Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@mariner4life The short bomb exit from the 22 to no one by Havili was crazy.
I just curled up into the fetal position and refused to look at the TV. By the time I had summoned the courage, the Boks were in. Just friggen WHY?
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Oh I thought the ref was really good too. Couple of rulings pissed me off, but if I am honest it's because they went against us.
There was only one I thought was complete bullshit, but then the cameras may not have seen what he saw
(We got called for lifting the player in a maul and I thought he just got squeezed up from pressure)
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@Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@mariner4life The short bomb exit from the 22 to no one by Havili was crazy.
The whole game changes right there. I don't know but it looks like he got caught in 2 minds about long or high and so just fluffed it.
@mariner4life The good bok front row got a scrum penalty first pop. Think ratings would look different if they had started the same pack as last week ...
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@mariner4life The good bok front row got a scrum penalty first pop. Think ratings would look different if they had started the same pack as last week ...
@Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@mariner4life The good bok front row got a scrum penalty first pop. Think ratings would look different if they had started the same pack as last week ...
Just an insanely stupid tactic.
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@mariner4life The good bok front row got a scrum penalty first pop. Think ratings would look different if they had started the same pack as last week ...
@Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@mariner4life The good bok front row got a scrum penalty first pop. Think ratings would look different if they had started the same pack as last week ...
On scrum penalties, the one late in the second half where we got penalised, the ref missed the first Bok front rower that stood up and as Bower pushed forward he went up as well. Very harsh penalty against us.
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Who looked the better 12? QT or DH?
Jordan was in recovery from illness wasn't he? I would not expect him to be 100%.Hope to see more of the younger props-the older ones just haven't been stepping up IMHO.
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Yew! Too much! Great game good win!!
Not perfect but then who is?? Huge Improvement in 7 days in a couple of key areas and she was a different game.
Took a little while to stick, but then the Cane try was fucking gorgeous and from there we took charge. SA didn't go away but after our 2nd try they were fucked.
Then the whole game changed in an instant. The Boks subbed their starting front row for actual good players. And we completely stuffed that exit. We were basically 2nd best from then until strangely BB got carded. Game ground to a halt with penalties and errors and we got ground down
But the last 10 was fucking sensational.
Huge improvement up front. Huge improvement in the air. Far more simple on attack. Completely different game.
That's a good win, and anyone not giving the coach and thr captain credit for it have given up all semblance of objectivity
@mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
That's a good win, and anyone not giving the coach and thr captain credit for it have given up all semblance of objectivity
Absolutely not. Although I have never been bagging Cane anyway, so I don't have to stop.
Your position appears to be that our season has been so far, by game: 1) excellent, 2) dire, 3) even more dire, 4) even direr yet, 5) excellent no worries at all, anywhere, we're good to go.
I'm not buying that any of our problems have been fixed, except by accident (BB being sore) and the injection of a good forwards coach (forced onto the head coach).
We're still playing two open-side flankers, a centre at wing, a terrible reserve hooker and an unreliable 2nd five. We still struggle with exit plays, drop the ball a lot, kick the ball poorly in general play and leak very soft tries.
Foster does this. His teams look excellent with the wind behind their sails and when things go well. Then suddenly, at the first sign of stormy weather, the boat goes down.
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@mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
That's a good win, and anyone not giving the coach and thr captain credit for it have given up all semblance of objectivity
Absolutely not. Although I have never been bagging Cane anyway, so I don't have to stop.
Your position appears to be that our season has been so far, by game: 1) excellent, 2) dire, 3) even more dire, 4) even direr yet, 5) excellent no worries at all, anywhere, we're good to go.
I'm not buying that any of our problems have been fixed, except by accident (BB being sore) and the injection of a good forwards coach (forced onto the head coach).
We're still playing two open-side flankers, a centre at wing, a terrible reserve hooker and an unreliable 2nd five. We still struggle with exit plays, drop the ball a lot, kick the ball poorly in general play and leak very soft tries.
Foster does this. His teams look excellent with the wind behind their sails and when things go well. Then suddenly, at the first sign of stormy weather, the boat goes down.
@Chester-Draws said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
That's a good win, and anyone not giving the coach and thr captain credit for it have given up all semblance of objectivity
Absolutely not. Although I have never been bagging Cane anyway, so I don't have to stop.
Your position appears to be that our season has been so far, by game: 1) excellent, 2) dire, 3) even more dire, 4) even direr yet, 5) excellent no worries at all, anywhere, we're good to go.
I'm not buying that any of our problems have been fixed, except by accident (BB being sore) and the injection of a good forwards coach (forced onto the head coach).
We're still playing two open-side flankers, a centre at wing, a terrible reserve hooker and an unreliable 2nd five. We still struggle with exit plays, drop the ball a lot, kick the ball poorly in general play and leak very soft tries.
Foster does this. His teams look excellent with the wind behind their sails and when things go well. Then suddenly, at the first sign of stormy weather, the boat goes down.
that's it in a nutshell for me. we have a two year body of work to look back on. don't be fooled by today. even a blind squirrel finds the odd nut.
