Serena Goooone
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https://www.vogue.com/article/serena-williams-retirement-in-her-own-words
I was going to post it in the GS thread. But i think she deserves her own thread. Serena Williams is arguably the greatest female player of all time, one part of the greatest sister act in sports history. She should have got her 30th GS title and had plenty of chances, but her legacy as a tennis player is secure
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@Machpants said in Serena Goooone:
https://www.vogue.com/article/serena-williams-retirement-in-her-own-words
And I'm spent
She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing
Fuck off
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@Machpants said in Serena Goooone:
https://www.vogue.com/article/serena-williams-retirement-in-her-own-words
And I'm spent
She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing
Fuck off
@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
@Machpants said in Serena Goooone:
https://www.vogue.com/article/serena-williams-retirement-in-her-own-words
And I'm spent
She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing
Fuck off
I'm just looking at the pictures, I have no interest in the game 'windscreen wipers'
(Wizard of Id)
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@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
@Machpants said in Serena Goooone:
https://www.vogue.com/article/serena-williams-retirement-in-her-own-words
And I'm spent
She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing
Fuck off
I'm just looking at the pictures, I have no interest in the game 'windscreen wipers'
(Wizard of Id)
@Machpants I had to have a giggle at her...ahhh..."helper"?
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Frankly found her unlikeable, exemplified by the US Open final v Osaka.
Horrible persona in my judgement. But one hell of a tennis player.
Awesome career and a true tennis great.
@booboo said in Serena Goooone:
Frankly found her unlikeable, exemplified by the US Open final v Osaka.
Horrible persona in my judgement. But one hell of a tennis player.
Yeah, that's my view as well. No doubting her ability but I was never a fan. I preferred watching Graf in her prime. Oh, and especially Sabatini.
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@booboo said in Serena Goooone:
Frankly found her unlikeable, exemplified by the US Open final v Osaka.
Horrible persona in my judgement. But one hell of a tennis player.
Yeah, that's my view as well. No doubting her ability but I was never a fan. I preferred watching Graf in her prime. Oh, and especially Sabatini.
@Bovidae said in Serena Goooone:
@booboo said in Serena Goooone:
Frankly found her unlikeable, exemplified by the US Open final v Osaka.
Horrible persona in my judgement. But one hell of a tennis player.
Yeah, that's my view as well. No doubting her ability but I was never a fan. I preferred watching Graf in her prime. Oh, and especially Sabatini.
Anna Kounikova and Maria Sharapova were very good tennis players
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@Bovidae said in Serena Goooone:
@booboo said in Serena Goooone:
Frankly found her unlikeable, exemplified by the US Open final v Osaka.
Horrible persona in my judgement. But one hell of a tennis player.
Yeah, that's my view as well. No doubting her ability but I was never a fan. I preferred watching Graf in her prime. Oh, and especially Sabatini.
Anna Kounikova and Maria Sharapova were very good tennis players
@booboo said in Serena Goooone:
@Bovidae said in Serena Goooone:
@booboo said in Serena Goooone:
Frankly found her unlikeable, exemplified by the US Open final v Osaka.
Horrible persona in my judgement. But one hell of a tennis player.
Yeah, that's my view as well. No doubting her ability but I was never a fan. I preferred watching Graf in her prime. Oh, and especially Sabatini.
Anna Kounikova and Maria Sharapova were very good tennis players
Nae tits
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@Machpants said in Serena Goooone:
https://www.vogue.com/article/serena-williams-retirement-in-her-own-words
And I'm spent
She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing
Fuck off
@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
@Machpants said in Serena Goooone:
https://www.vogue.com/article/serena-williams-retirement-in-her-own-words
And I'm spent
She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing
Fuck off
As in men are allowed to compete for longer, or that her genes are discriminating against her?
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@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
@Machpants said in Serena Goooone:
https://www.vogue.com/article/serena-williams-retirement-in-her-own-words
And I'm spent
She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing
Fuck off
As in men are allowed to compete for longer, or that her genes are discriminating against her?
@stodders said in Serena Goooone:
@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
@Machpants said in Serena Goooone:
https://www.vogue.com/article/serena-williams-retirement-in-her-own-words
And I'm spent
She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing
Fuck off
As in men are allowed to compete for longer, or that her genes are discriminating against her?
Men are allowed to compete for longer because they don't have to change nappies
Nah
She's got enough money to have Mary Poppins as her nanny ffs
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@stodders said in Serena Goooone:
@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
@Machpants said in Serena Goooone:
https://www.vogue.com/article/serena-williams-retirement-in-her-own-words
And I'm spent
She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing
Fuck off
As in men are allowed to compete for longer, or that her genes are discriminating against her?
Men are allowed to compete for longer because they don't have to change nappies
Nah
She's got enough money to have Mary Poppins as her nanny ffs
@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
@stodders said in Serena Goooone:
@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
@Machpants said in Serena Goooone:
https://www.vogue.com/article/serena-williams-retirement-in-her-own-words
And I'm spent
She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing
Fuck off
As in men are allowed to compete for longer, or that her genes are discriminating against her?
Men are allowed to compete for longer because they don't have to change nappies
Nah
You've got enough money to have Mary Poppins as your nanny
She can have a chat with her husband, no? Get him to take the slack? She chose to have a child I believe. It wasn't forced on her. She could have just played tennis. Sometimes you have choices to make in life.
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@stodders said in Serena Goooone:
@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
@Machpants said in Serena Goooone:
https://www.vogue.com/article/serena-williams-retirement-in-her-own-words
And I'm spent
She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing
Fuck off
As in men are allowed to compete for longer, or that her genes are discriminating against her?
Men are allowed to compete for longer because they don't have to change nappies
Nah
She's got enough money to have Mary Poppins as her nanny ffs
@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
Men are allowed to compete for longer because they don't have to change nappies
These rules are discriminatory though eh. She should write a strongly worded letter asking them to change that one.
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@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
@stodders said in Serena Goooone:
@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
@Machpants said in Serena Goooone:
https://www.vogue.com/article/serena-williams-retirement-in-her-own-words
And I'm spent
She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing
Fuck off
As in men are allowed to compete for longer, or that her genes are discriminating against her?
Men are allowed to compete for longer because they don't have to change nappies
Nah
You've got enough money to have Mary Poppins as your nanny
She can have a chat with her husband, no? Get him to take the slack? She chose to have a child I believe. It wasn't forced on her. She could have just played tennis. Sometimes you have choices to make in life.
@stodders said in Serena Goooone:
@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
@stodders said in Serena Goooone:
@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
@Machpants said in Serena Goooone:
https://www.vogue.com/article/serena-williams-retirement-in-her-own-words
And I'm spent
She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing
Fuck off
As in men are allowed to compete for longer, or that her genes are discriminating against her?
Men are allowed to compete for longer because they don't have to change nappies
Nah
You've got enough money to have Mary Poppins as your nanny
She can have a chat with her husband, no? Get him to take the slack? She chose to have a child I believe. It wasn't forced on her. She could have just played tennis. Sometimes you have choices to make in life.
No, but women have such a thing as a biological clock and postponing pregnancy beyond the age of 35 years has its risks. Agree about the husband and nanny comments.
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@stodders said in Serena Goooone:
@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
@stodders said in Serena Goooone:
@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
@Machpants said in Serena Goooone:
https://www.vogue.com/article/serena-williams-retirement-in-her-own-words
And I'm spent
She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing
Fuck off
As in men are allowed to compete for longer, or that her genes are discriminating against her?
Men are allowed to compete for longer because they don't have to change nappies
Nah
You've got enough money to have Mary Poppins as your nanny
She can have a chat with her husband, no? Get him to take the slack? She chose to have a child I believe. It wasn't forced on her. She could have just played tennis. Sometimes you have choices to make in life.
No, but women have such a thing as a biological clock and postponing pregnancy beyond the age of 35 years has its risks. Agree about the husband and nanny comments.
@Stargazer said in Serena Goooone:
@stodders said in Serena Goooone:
@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
@stodders said in Serena Goooone:
@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
@Machpants said in Serena Goooone:
https://www.vogue.com/article/serena-williams-retirement-in-her-own-words
And I'm spent
She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing
Fuck off
As in men are allowed to compete for longer, or that her genes are discriminating against her?
Men are allowed to compete for longer because they don't have to change nappies
Nah
You've got enough money to have Mary Poppins as your nanny
She can have a chat with her husband, no? Get him to take the slack? She chose to have a child I believe. It wasn't forced on her. She could have just played tennis. Sometimes you have choices to make in life.
No, but women have such a thing as a biological clock and postponing pregnancy beyond the age of 35 years has its risks. Agree about the husband and nanny comments.
It is true, but it is still a choice for most women in the western world to have children. Serena would have decided to keep the baby when she found out she was pregnant. If she wanted to be close to the baby once born, she had the means to do that if that was more important to her than playing tennis.
Her comments about not being able to play longer just smacks of excuse making because she is unable to deal with her decline. She has the means to have a team of nannies on hand 24/7 to allow her to focus 100% on her tennis and fitness. If she is choosing not to focus, then that is a tell that she has other priorities now. No shame in that.
Unfortunately, being a hands on parent and being an elite sports person is very difficult, especially if you are ageing as well. If Serena is not coping with this, she might want to look closer to home rather than blaming the patriarchy
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@Bovidae said in Serena Goooone:
@booboo said in Serena Goooone:
Frankly found her unlikeable, exemplified by the US Open final v Osaka.
Horrible persona in my judgement. But one hell of a tennis player.
Yeah, that's my view as well. No doubting her ability but I was never a fan. I preferred watching Graf in her prime. Oh, and especially Sabatini.
Anna Kounikova and Maria Sharapova were very good tennis players
@booboo said in Serena Goooone:
@Bovidae said in Serena Goooone:
@booboo said in Serena Goooone:
Frankly found her unlikeable, exemplified by the US Open final v Osaka.
Horrible persona in my judgement. But one hell of a tennis player.
Yeah, that's my view as well. No doubting her ability but I was never a fan. I preferred watching Graf in her prime. Oh, and especially Sabatini.
Anna Kounikova and Maria Sharapova were very good tennis players
Anna Anna Anna
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FFS there's some mountains out of molehills being made here. She's just stating facts. She's not blaming men for anything. For a women to have a child it takes them out of the sport for a time and it's likely the changes to the body will impact sports performance. Also it's a couple of lines in a long article that I only read because of posters on rugby forums complaining about it. The first part of the article was quite interesting - the businessy stuff at the end less so.
I've never been a Serena fan, Sabatini and Hingis were always my favourites (maybe not so much for tennis ability if I'm being honest).
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FFS there's some mountains out of molehills being made here. She's just stating facts. She's not blaming men for anything. For a women to have a child it takes them out of the sport for a time and it's likely the changes to the body will impact sports performance. Also it's a couple of lines in a long article that I only read because of posters on rugby forums complaining about it. The first part of the article was quite interesting - the businessy stuff at the end less so.
I've never been a Serena fan, Sabatini and Hingis were always my favourites (maybe not so much for tennis ability if I'm being honest).
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@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
@Machpants said in Serena Goooone:
https://www.vogue.com/article/serena-williams-retirement-in-her-own-words
And I'm spent
She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing
Fuck off
As in men are allowed to compete for longer, or that her genes are discriminating against her?
@stodders said in Serena Goooone:
@MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:
@Machpants said in Serena Goooone:
https://www.vogue.com/article/serena-williams-retirement-in-her-own-words
And I'm spent
She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing
Fuck off
As in men are allowed to compete for longer, or that her genes are discriminating against her?
Well she'd have been pregnant less often.
