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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    No Quarter
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    #758

    Without a doubt Stead has benefitted from a golden generation of talent, but at the same time, he's helped to build that talent and depth. The majority of players that have come into the side have gone well, which is a big green flag that he and Kane have developed a professional culture that allows new players to thrive.

    There's no doubt Hess and Baz were the catalyst's for change, and Stead (with Kane) have been a steady hand (pun intended) to continue that culture on. Our results speak for themselves really, but at the same time I think the Stead/Kane combo has erred on the side of being too conservative at times, which has held us back a bit at times.

    With all that said, if he gets remembered as the greatest coach we've had, then I wouldn't begrudge him that. It's been an absolute pleasure watching his Black Caps sides play over the years. Some of the results we got I never thought I'd ever see in my lifetime, and the way the side has handled itself under his leadership (read: custodians of the game) has made me a proud NZer. Go well Mr Stead.

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    • ChrisC Chris

      @canefan said in NZ Cricket:

      @nzzp said in NZ Cricket:

      @canefan said in NZ Cricket:

      He made some mind-boggling decisions at times. But you have to give the guy his flowers

      Still reckon we should have played Boult over Scott K against England at the Mount. Yes, I can bear a grudge.

      Most egregious was not getting warm up games in Aus for our tour. You cannot succeed without acclimatising.

      Like I said, some mind boggling decisions. Mainly regarding selection (I can't recall any specific examples now, but I can recall being quite unhappy with some of them. Bracewell wasting a spot on the test team was one). If it was his decision to forgoe warm up games before the Australian tour, then that was a poor decision

      you do realise the captain has a massive say in selections when outside NZ not all on Stead.

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      canefan
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      #759

      @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

      @canefan said in NZ Cricket:

      @nzzp said in NZ Cricket:

      @canefan said in NZ Cricket:

      He made some mind-boggling decisions at times. But you have to give the guy his flowers

      Still reckon we should have played Boult over Scott K against England at the Mount. Yes, I can bear a grudge.

      Most egregious was not getting warm up games in Aus for our tour. You cannot succeed without acclimatising.

      Like I said, some mind boggling decisions. Mainly regarding selection (I can't recall any specific examples now, but I can recall being quite unhappy with some of them. Bracewell wasting a spot on the test team was one). If it was his decision to forgoe warm up games before the Australian tour, then that was a poor decision

      you do realise the captain has a massive say in selections when outside NZ not all on Stead.

      I felt like Stead was very conservative, and didn't really challenge Kane at times

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      • canefanC canefan

        @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

        @canefan said in NZ Cricket:

        @nzzp said in NZ Cricket:

        @canefan said in NZ Cricket:

        He made some mind-boggling decisions at times. But you have to give the guy his flowers

        Still reckon we should have played Boult over Scott K against England at the Mount. Yes, I can bear a grudge.

        Most egregious was not getting warm up games in Aus for our tour. You cannot succeed without acclimatising.

        Like I said, some mind boggling decisions. Mainly regarding selection (I can't recall any specific examples now, but I can recall being quite unhappy with some of them. Bracewell wasting a spot on the test team was one). If it was his decision to forgoe warm up games before the Australian tour, then that was a poor decision

        you do realise the captain has a massive say in selections when outside NZ not all on Stead.

        I felt like Stead was very conservative, and didn't really challenge Kane at times

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        @canefan said in NZ Cricket:

        @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

        @canefan said in NZ Cricket:

        @nzzp said in NZ Cricket:

        @canefan said in NZ Cricket:

        He made some mind-boggling decisions at times. But you have to give the guy his flowers

        Still reckon we should have played Boult over Scott K against England at the Mount. Yes, I can bear a grudge.

        Most egregious was not getting warm up games in Aus for our tour. You cannot succeed without acclimatising.

        Like I said, some mind boggling decisions. Mainly regarding selection (I can't recall any specific examples now, but I can recall being quite unhappy with some of them. Bracewell wasting a spot on the test team was one). If it was his decision to forgoe warm up games before the Australian tour, then that was a poor decision

        you do realise the captain has a massive say in selections when outside NZ not all on Stead.

        I felt like Stead was very conservative, and didn't realize challenge Kane at times

        Yes I agree with that Kane had a big say in team selections due to his powerful position.

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        • canefanC canefan

          @nzzp said in NZ Cricket:

          @canefan said in NZ Cricket:

          He made some mind-boggling decisions at times. But you have to give the guy his flowers

          Still reckon we should have played Boult over Scott K against England at the Mount. Yes, I can bear a grudge.

          Most egregious was not getting warm up games in Aus for our tour. You cannot succeed without acclimatising.

          Like I said, some mind boggling decisions. Mainly regarding selection (I can't recall any specific examples now, but I can recall being quite unhappy with some of them. Bracewell wasting a spot on the test team was one). If it was his decision to forgoe warm up games before the Australian tour, then that was a poor decision

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          LABCAT
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          #761

          @canefan said in NZ Cricket:

          @nzzp said in NZ Cricket:

          @canefan said in NZ Cricket:

          He made some mind-boggling decisions at times. But you have to give the guy his flowers

          Still reckon we should have played Boult over Scott K against England at the Mount. Yes, I can bear a grudge.

          Most egregious was not getting warm up games in Aus for our tour. You cannot succeed without acclimatising.

          Like I said, some mind boggling decisions. Mainly regarding selection (I can't recall any specific examples now, but I can recall being quite unhappy with some of them. Bracewell wasting a spot on the test team was one). If it was his decision to forgoe warm up games before the Australian tour, then that was a poor decision

          Allowing Henry Nicholls to play on longer than he should have would have been one. It actually seems recently that we have started to promote a lot more fresh talent (maybe this hasn't been by choice) whereas previously we would keep playing the same players regardless of form.

          Probably the worst selection was allowing Southee a farewell tour when we should have been going all out for a spot in the WTC final.

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          • VirgilV Do not disturb
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            Virgil
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            #762

            Satnav has done us proud (again!)

            https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/mitchell-santner-wisden-trophy-winner-in-2024-1481804

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              #763

              Our 5th Wisden Trophy Winner 🙂 NZ has produced 3 winners in the last eight years.

              Who are the 5? and for what performance?
              NB there have only been actual winners since 2022. Prior to that they are notional

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              • dogmeatD dogmeat

                Our 5th Wisden Trophy Winner 🙂 NZ has produced 3 winners in the last eight years.

                Who are the 5? and for what performance?
                NB there have only been actual winners since 2022. Prior to that they are notional

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                @dogmeat said in NZ Cricket:

                Our 5th Wisden Trophy Winner 🙂 NZ has produced 3 winners in the last eight years.

                Who are the 5? and for what performance?
                NB there have only been actual winners since 2022. Prior to that they are notional

                Have to assume Kane and maybe BMac from the last 8 years?

                Previous winner Paddles for 1985?

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                  KiwiPie
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #765

                  My guesses

                  • Hadlee 1985 15 wickets
                  • Ajaz and his 10 for
                  • Bmac 300
                  • Can't think of another
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                  • RapidoR Offline
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                    Rapido
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                    #766

                    I read that article, and couldn't tell what the trophy was actually for?

                    So it is 'performance' of the year? Not player of the year?

                    That would make way more sense than what I thought I was reading about.

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                    • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                      My guesses

                      • Hadlee 1985 15 wickets
                      • Ajaz and his 10 for
                      • Bmac 300
                      • Can't think of another
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #767

                      @KiwiPie said in NZ Cricket:

                      My guesses

                      • Hadlee 1985 15 wickets
                      • Ajaz and his 10 for
                      • Bmac 300
                      • Can't think of another

                      Maybe Baz also won it for his fastest test century? That might squeeze into the last 8 years. But his 300 was 11 years ago.

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                      • RapidoR Rapido

                        I read that article, and couldn't tell what the trophy was actually for?

                        So it is 'performance' of the year? Not player of the year?

                        That would make way more sense than what I thought I was reading about.

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                        Virgil
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #768

                        @Rapido said in NZ Cricket:

                        I read that article, and couldn't tell what the trophy was actually for?

                        So it is 'performance' of the year? Not player of the year?

                        That would make way more sense than what I thought I was reading about.

                        Was thinking the same, is it part of Wisdens 5 Cricketers of the year?

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                        • VirgilV Virgil

                          @Rapido said in NZ Cricket:

                          I read that article, and couldn't tell what the trophy was actually for?

                          So it is 'performance' of the year? Not player of the year?

                          That would make way more sense than what I thought I was reading about.

                          Was thinking the same, is it part of Wisdens 5 Cricketers of the year?

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                          Bovidae
                          wrote on last edited by Bovidae
                          #769

                          @Virgil said in NZ Cricket:

                          Was thinking the same, is it part of Wisdens 5 Cricketers of the year?

                          They are all English.

                          Read this article. Wisden isn't holding back, not that it will make any difference.

                          https://www.pressreader.com/new-zealand/wairarapa-times-age-nz-9wdn/20250423/281809994749609

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                            dogmeat
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                            Baz didn't win it. Mitch Johnson did for 7-68 and 5-59 v South Africa at Centurion.

                            Hadlee, Ajaz, Satnav

                            Other winners were in 2018 and 1949 That should make it easy

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                            • KiwiPieK Offline
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                              KiwiPie
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                              #771

                              MP Donnelly in 1949? Can remember that but not 2018!

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                                Machpants
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                                #772

                                I guess the hint is in SatNav does us proud (again) for outstanding individual test performance

                                So Satner in 2018, even I know he took a dozen (more?) wickets

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                                • VirgilV Do not disturb
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                                  Virgil
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                                  #773

                                  I cheated...

                                  https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/discover/wisden/wisden-honours/the-wisden-trophy/

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                                    https://www.nzc.nz/news-items/nzc-partners-with-major-league-cricket-franchise/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJ2cmhleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETE5QnVxWlR1dUNlbVI3RXlOAR6STyrFJN4_ueQ9oM5FKbubum2OBNy21prjUTEnHis6OqFlpvySHNyr4yHGrg_aem_SwULrqXBj2KY3vQXaQwxvg

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                                      Rookie Black Caps Rhys Mariu, Mitch Hay get chance to push for test debut in NZ A squad

                                      Next crop of young ones with a mix of Black Caps experience for the NZ A side.
                                      Surely Rhys Mariu is in with a decent shot of being selected for the test side for the Zimbabwe tour going by the numbers he racked up in the Plunket Shield this season.

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                                        Rookie Black Caps Rhys Mariu, Mitch Hay get chance to push for test debut in NZ A squad

                                        Next crop of young ones with a mix of Black Caps experience for the NZ A side.
                                        Surely Rhys Mariu is in with a decent shot of being selected for the test side for the Zimbabwe tour going by the numbers he racked up in the Plunket Shield this season.

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                                        @1kiwi said in NZ Cricket:

                                        Rookie Black Caps Rhys Mariu, Mitch Hay get chance to push for test debut in NZ A squad

                                        Next crop of young ones with a mix of Black Caps experience for the NZ A side.
                                        Surely Rhys Mariu is in with a decent shot of being selected for the test side for the Zimbabwe tour going by the numbers he racked up in the Plunket Shield this season.

                                        Incumbents probably want to pad their averages so if he's lucky he mighy get some batting practise in the nets.

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                                          #777

                                          I didn't know where to put this, but this is absolutely outrageous. At just 14 years old Vaibhav Suryavanshi has scored the fastest IPL hundred off 35 balls.

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360669208/14-year-old-vaibhav-suryavanshi-smashes-record-breaking-t20-century-ipl

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