Bledisloe 1
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Rennie must be under huge pressure.
9th in the world and should really be staring down the barrel of another thumping by all rights.
Injuries have hit them hard. And their depth is just bad in general. They've done well to almost win the series against England and still be in the RC right up until the last game.
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"We've obviously been in contact with World Rugby around it and they agreed with our concerns," Rennie said.
They could mean so many things. eg we agree that you are concerned about the language barrier contributing to understanding the situation or we agree that a situation has happened which has changed the perception of a great game.
Doesn't mean that we agree you were robbed.@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
"We've obviously been in contact with World Rugby around it and they agreed with our concerns," Rennie said.
They could mean so many things. eg we agree that you are concerned about the language barrier contributing to understanding the situation or we agree that a situation has happened which has changed the perception of a great game.
Doesn't mean that we agree you were robbed.Or they just agreed that Aussies concerns were Aussies concerns.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
"We've obviously been in contact with World Rugby around it and they agreed with our concerns," Rennie said.
They could mean so many things. eg we agree that you are concerned about the language barrier contributing to understanding the situation or we agree that a situation has happened which has changed the perception of a great game.
Doesn't mean that we agree you were robbed.Or they just agreed that Aussies concerns were Aussies concerns.
@Bones
WR: yes, yes we agree, that is pretty harsh, buuuuuuuttt, Foley wa....
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Tupaea suffered a ruptured medial cruciate ligament (MCL) and a partial anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) tear in his left knee after Swain entered a ruck and made firm contact with the All Black’s outstretched left leg.Just a bit of firm contact, entering the ruck, nothing to see here (whistles)...
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@His-Bobness said in Bledisloe 1:
Well after the judiciary said Newell should be cited stuff, think I will wait to see the actaul letter/email from WR.
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It's a pity that SANZAAR only publishes media releases with the summary of the Judicial Committee's decision (unlike World Rugby). Unless I see any proof of it, I don't believe for a minute that the Judicial Committee (or the Foul Play Committee earlier) have actually said that they think Newell should have been cited.
Also remember, saying he should have been cited doesn't mean that they think the citing would have been upheld. All it could have meant is that it would have been good for the Judicial Committee to have a closer look at that incident (in a proper procedure with Newell being actually represented, unlike now, when it's just been Rugby Australia and Swain's lawyer giving their side of the story).
Without proof, I also don't believe that World Rugby backed Rugby Australia in their view that the Wallabies shouldn't have been penalised for time-wasting.
Coaches or organisation can say so many things. They may be true, they may be lies, they may be misinterpretations of what was said/written; they may just be wishful thinking. One thing's for sure: they provide plenty of click-bait for the media.
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If Rennie has made shit up its hard to see why. He's not actually under the kind of pressure you'd expect a coach of a bad team to be. Not even the media hacks are calling for his head. Strange one.
I agree that it's incredibly unlikely the judiciary would say any of the things Rennie reckons they did.
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If Rennie has made shit up its hard to see why. He's not actually under the kind of pressure you'd expect a coach of a bad team to be. Not even the media hacks are calling for his head. Strange one.
I agree that it's incredibly unlikely the judiciary would say any of the things Rennie reckons they did.
@Derpus said in Bledisloe 1:
If Rennie has made shit up its hard to see why. He's not actually under the kind of pressure you'd expect a coach of a bad team to be. Not even the media hacks are calling for his head. Strange one.
I agree that it's incredibly unlikely the judiciary would say any of the things Rennie reckons they did.
I don’t think he’s outright lying but certainly “interpreting” some comments to continue a feeling within the team that they need to redress some wrongs.
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@Derpus said in Bledisloe 1:
If Rennie has made shit up its hard to see why. He's not actually under the kind of pressure you'd expect a coach of a bad team to be. Not even the media hacks are calling for his head. Strange one.
I agree that it's incredibly unlikely the judiciary would say any of the things Rennie reckons they did.
I don’t think he’s outright lying but certainly “interpreting” some comments to continue a feeling within the team that they need to redress some wrongs.
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe 1:
If Rennie has made shit up its hard to see why. He's not actually under the kind of pressure you'd expect a coach of a bad team to be. Not even the media hacks are calling for his head. Strange one.
I agree that it's incredibly unlikely the judiciary would say any of the things Rennie reckons they did.
I don’t think he’s outright lying but certainly “interpreting” some comments to continue a feeling within the team that they need to redress some wrongs.
Yeah I suspect the we were hard done by stuff is an attempt get his team up , not ask for sympathy
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@Derpus said in Bledisloe 1:
If Rennie has made shit up its hard to see why. He's not actually under the kind of pressure you'd expect a coach of a bad team to be. Not even the media hacks are calling for his head. Strange one.
I agree that it's incredibly unlikely the judiciary would say any of the things Rennie reckons they did.
I don’t think he’s outright lying but certainly “interpreting” some comments to continue a feeling within the team that they need to redress some wrongs.
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe 1:
If Rennie has made shit up its hard to see why. He's not actually under the kind of pressure you'd expect a coach of a bad team to be. Not even the media hacks are calling for his head. Strange one.
I agree that it's incredibly unlikely the judiciary would say any of the things Rennie reckons they did.
I don’t think he’s outright lying but certainly “interpreting” some comments to continue a feeling within the team that they need to redress some wrongs.
Michael Cheika says hi.
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In the most contentious and controversial refereeing decision of the year, we have to rely on the aggrieved coach’s second-hand version of what World Rugby has said about Australia’s complaint. If that doesn’t tell you how corrupt and opaque the governance structures (or lack of them) are in rugby union, nothing will. Where is the official WR statement? Is anyone in charge here? Or are they all too busy covering their arses and protecting their expense accounts to comment? Of course Rennie is going to say that. He’s like the kid who comes home from school and tells his parents the teacher has given him the week off from doing homework.
@His-Bobness said in Bledisloe 1:
In the most contentious and controversial refereeing decision of the year, we have to rely on the aggrieved coach’s second-hand version of what World Rugby has said about Australia’s complaint. If that doesn’t tell you how corrupt and opaque the governance structures (or lack of them) are in rugby union, nothing will. Where is the official WR statement? Is anyone in charge here? Or are they all too busy covering their arses and protecting their expense accounts to comment? Of course Rennie is going to say that. He’s like the kid who comes home from school and tells his parents the teacher has given him the week off from doing homework.
Fucking hell why didn't I think of that when I was kid
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If Rennie has made shit up its hard to see why. He's not actually under the kind of pressure you'd expect a coach of a bad team to be. Not even the media hacks are calling for his head. Strange one.
I agree that it's incredibly unlikely the judiciary would say any of the things Rennie reckons they did.
@Derpus said in Bledisloe 1:
If Rennie has made shit up its hard to see why. He's not actually under the kind of pressure you'd expect a coach of a bad team to be. Not even the media hacks are calling for his head. Strange one.
The vipers aren't at his door because he's doing a great job at acting as if it's the Wallabies who are the victims.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe 1:
If Rennie has made shit up its hard to see why. He's not actually under the kind of pressure you'd expect a coach of a bad team to be. Not even the media hacks are calling for his head. Strange one.
I agree that it's incredibly unlikely the judiciary would say any of the things Rennie reckons they did.
I don’t think he’s outright lying but certainly “interpreting” some comments to continue a feeling within the team that they need to redress some wrongs.
Yeah I suspect the we were hard done by stuff is an attempt get his team up , not ask for sympathy
@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe 1:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe 1:
If Rennie has made shit up its hard to see why. He's not actually under the kind of pressure you'd expect a coach of a bad team to be. Not even the media hacks are calling for his head. Strange one.
I agree that it's incredibly unlikely the judiciary would say any of the things Rennie reckons they did.
I don’t think he’s outright lying but certainly “interpreting” some comments to continue a feeling within the team that they need to redress some wrongs.
Yeah I suspect the we were hard done by stuff is an attempt get his team up , not ask for sympathy
Imagine if the Wallabies won that game, would they now be ranked ninth?
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It's a pity that SANZAAR only publishes media releases with the summary of the Judicial Committee's decision (unlike World Rugby). Unless I see any proof of it, I don't believe for a minute that the Judicial Committee (or the Foul Play Committee earlier) have actually said that they think Newell should have been cited.
Also remember, saying he should have been cited doesn't mean that they think the citing would have been upheld. All it could have meant is that it would have been good for the Judicial Committee to have a closer look at that incident (in a proper procedure with Newell being actually represented, unlike now, when it's just been Rugby Australia and Swain's lawyer giving their side of the story).
Without proof, I also don't believe that World Rugby backed Rugby Australia in their view that the Wallabies shouldn't have been penalised for time-wasting.
Coaches or organisation can say so many things. They may be true, they may be lies, they may be misinterpretations of what was said/written; they may just be wishful thinking. One thing's for sure: they provide plenty of click-bait for the media.
@Stargazer said in Bledisloe 1:
It's a pity that SANZAAR only publishes media releases with the summary of the Judicial Committee's decision (unlike World Rugby). Unless I see any proof of it, I don't believe for a minute that the Judicial Committee (or the Foul Play Committee earlier) have actually said that they think Newell should have been cited.
For what must be the third time; they didn't say that. It was a contention of Swain's defence: If Swain is here, so should Newell be
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@Stargazer said in Bledisloe 1:
It's a pity that SANZAAR only publishes media releases with the summary of the Judicial Committee's decision (unlike World Rugby). Unless I see any proof of it, I don't believe for a minute that the Judicial Committee (or the Foul Play Committee earlier) have actually said that they think Newell should have been cited.
For what must be the third time; they didn't say that. It was a contention of Swain's defence: If Swain is here, so should Newell be
@antipodean said in Bledisloe 1:
@Stargazer said in Bledisloe 1:
It's a pity that SANZAAR only publishes media releases with the summary of the Judicial Committee's decision (unlike World Rugby). Unless I see any proof of it, I don't believe for a minute that the Judicial Committee (or the Foul Play Committee earlier) have actually said that they think Newell should have been cited.
For what must be the third time; they didn't say that. It was a contention of Swain's defence: If Swain is here, so should Newell be
Yep just a bit of confusion over who actually was running the judiciary it seems.
Little things like this happen in Aus at times. No idea if Rennie was misquoted or just said something wrong. -
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe 1:
Raynal speaks:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/raynal-opens-up-on-that-decision/
I love the little dig at the end...
Asked if a crackdown was needed on time-wasting, Raynal said: "That's not my role. But what do we want in our sport? What kind of picture do we want to deliver to the young viewers?
"Do you want to see your child wasting time on the ball? Do you want to see your child diving and play-acting? That's the real question. But my job is to referee."
