Bledisloe 1
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It's a pity that SANZAAR only publishes media releases with the summary of the Judicial Committee's decision (unlike World Rugby). Unless I see any proof of it, I don't believe for a minute that the Judicial Committee (or the Foul Play Committee earlier) have actually said that they think Newell should have been cited.
Also remember, saying he should have been cited doesn't mean that they think the citing would have been upheld. All it could have meant is that it would have been good for the Judicial Committee to have a closer look at that incident (in a proper procedure with Newell being actually represented, unlike now, when it's just been Rugby Australia and Swain's lawyer giving their side of the story).
Without proof, I also don't believe that World Rugby backed Rugby Australia in their view that the Wallabies shouldn't have been penalised for time-wasting.
Coaches or organisation can say so many things. They may be true, they may be lies, they may be misinterpretations of what was said/written; they may just be wishful thinking. One thing's for sure: they provide plenty of click-bait for the media.
@Stargazer said in Bledisloe 1:
It's a pity that SANZAAR only publishes media releases with the summary of the Judicial Committee's decision (unlike World Rugby). Unless I see any proof of it, I don't believe for a minute that the Judicial Committee (or the Foul Play Committee earlier) have actually said that they think Newell should have been cited.
For what must be the third time; they didn't say that. It was a contention of Swain's defence: If Swain is here, so should Newell be
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@Stargazer said in Bledisloe 1:
It's a pity that SANZAAR only publishes media releases with the summary of the Judicial Committee's decision (unlike World Rugby). Unless I see any proof of it, I don't believe for a minute that the Judicial Committee (or the Foul Play Committee earlier) have actually said that they think Newell should have been cited.
For what must be the third time; they didn't say that. It was a contention of Swain's defence: If Swain is here, so should Newell be
@antipodean said in Bledisloe 1:
@Stargazer said in Bledisloe 1:
It's a pity that SANZAAR only publishes media releases with the summary of the Judicial Committee's decision (unlike World Rugby). Unless I see any proof of it, I don't believe for a minute that the Judicial Committee (or the Foul Play Committee earlier) have actually said that they think Newell should have been cited.
For what must be the third time; they didn't say that. It was a contention of Swain's defence: If Swain is here, so should Newell be
Yep just a bit of confusion over who actually was running the judiciary it seems.
Little things like this happen in Aus at times. No idea if Rennie was misquoted or just said something wrong. -
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe 1:
Raynal speaks:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/raynal-opens-up-on-that-decision/
I love the little dig at the end...
Asked if a crackdown was needed on time-wasting, Raynal said: "That's not my role. But what do we want in our sport? What kind of picture do we want to deliver to the young viewers?
"Do you want to see your child wasting time on the ball? Do you want to see your child diving and play-acting? That's the real question. But my job is to referee."
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@Bovidae said in Bledisloe 1:
Raynal speaks:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/raynal-opens-up-on-that-decision/
I love the little dig at the end...
Asked if a crackdown was needed on time-wasting, Raynal said: "That's not my role. But what do we want in our sport? What kind of picture do we want to deliver to the young viewers?
"Do you want to see your child wasting time on the ball? Do you want to see your child diving and play-acting? That's the real question. But my job is to referee."
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe 1:
Raynal speaks:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/raynal-opens-up-on-that-decision/
I love the little dig at the end...
Asked if a crackdown was needed on time-wasting, Raynal said: "That's not my role. But what do we want in our sport? What kind of picture do we want to deliver to the young viewers?
"Do you want to see your child wasting time on the ball? Do you want to see your child diving and play-acting? That's the real question. But my job is to referee."
Someone buy that fella a beer
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe 1:
Raynal speaks:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/raynal-opens-up-on-that-decision/
I love the little dig at the end...
Asked if a crackdown was needed on time-wasting, Raynal said: "That's not my role. But what do we want in our sport? What kind of picture do we want to deliver to the young viewers?
"Do you want to see your child wasting time on the ball? Do you want to see your child diving and play-acting? That's the real question. But my job is to referee."
Someone buy that fella a beer
@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe 1:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe 1:
Raynal speaks:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/raynal-opens-up-on-that-decision/
I love the little dig at the end...
Asked if a crackdown was needed on time-wasting, Raynal said: "That's not my role. But what do we want in our sport? What kind of picture do we want to deliver to the young viewers?
"Do you want to see your child wasting time on the ball? Do you want to see your child diving and play-acting? That's the real question. But my job is to referee."
Someone buy that fella a beer
Seems like Nic White did
“Nic White came after the last game on Saturday night with two beers in the changing room. He came to talk to me, and I appreciate what he told me in his name, and in the name of the Australia team.
"I will not say publicly what our discussion was but I appreciate what he did that night in Auckland.
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Just saw this on reddit..
This is why Foley was arguing he wanted to talk to his forwards before kicking... lol
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Just saw this on reddit..
This is why Foley was arguing he wanted to talk to his forwards before kicking... lol
@bayimports said in Bledisloe 1:
Just saw this on reddit..
This is why Foley was arguing he wanted to talk to his forwards before kicking... lol
Never bet against red n black….
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https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1575245514865377281?t=k_M8yay9apJOmnOC0HemzA&s=19
But let's think about the real victim here
Poor old Darcy misses two tests ...
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https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1575245514865377281?t=k_M8yay9apJOmnOC0HemzA&s=19
But let's think about the real victim here
Poor old Darcy misses two tests ...
@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1575245514865377281?t=k_M8yay9apJOmnOC0HemzA&s=19
But let's think about the real victim here
Poor old Darcy misses two tests ...
With the crash and bash of modern rugby and the way Jordie has stepped up that could well and truly be his career over sadly.
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https://twitter.com/newstalkzbsport/status/1575246398873735168?t=fSHTOhrFT7u2lGEtsT8d6Q&s=19
So misses Super Rugby, thus probably ABs test season, and thus probably the RWC.
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https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1575245514865377281?t=k_M8yay9apJOmnOC0HemzA&s=19
But let's think about the real victim here
Poor old Darcy misses two tests ...
@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
But let's think about the real victim here
Poor old Darcy misses two tests ...Have seen a few reactionary posts on the socials calling for a Swain to be banned for 9 months
Regardless of the punishment in this case being too short, that's a slippery slope. Does that mean any red cards where a player is not out of the game injured means no ban?
(Yes I'm being facetious)
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@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
But let's think about the real victim here
Poor old Darcy misses two tests ...Have seen a few reactionary posts on the socials calling for a Swain to be banned for 9 months
Regardless of the punishment in this case being too short, that's a slippery slope. Does that mean any red cards where a player is not out of the game injured means no ban?
(Yes I'm being facetious)
@NTA said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
But let's think about the real victim here
Poor old Darcy misses two tests ...Have seen a few reactionary posts on the socials calling for a Swain to be banned for 9 months
Regardless of the punishment in this case being too short, that's a slippery slope. Does that mean any red cards where a player is not out of the game injured means no ban?
(Yes I'm being facetious)
It means that acts of thuggery like this should get special attention.
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@NTA said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
But let's think about the real victim here
Poor old Darcy misses two tests ...Have seen a few reactionary posts on the socials calling for a Swain to be banned for 9 months
Regardless of the punishment in this case being too short, that's a slippery slope. Does that mean any red cards where a player is not out of the game injured means no ban?
(Yes I'm being facetious)
It means that acts of thuggery like this should get special attention.
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 1:
@NTA said in Bledisloe 1:
@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
But let's think about the real victim here
Poor old Darcy misses two tests ...Have seen a few reactionary posts on the socials calling for a Swain to be banned for 9 months
Regardless of the punishment in this case being too short, that's a slippery slope. Does that mean any red cards where a player is not out of the game injured means no ban?
(Yes I'm being facetious)
It means that acts of thuggery like this should get special attention.
I think that is something that needs looking at - particularly where lower level games are used to blunt the suspension.
Banning a player for 9 months over puts it somewhere near match official abuse.
Will players throwing a punch deemed to be Grub level?
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If Tupaea's injury was career ending, could he take Swain to court? I remember reading about a couple of ex league players in court.
@mikedogz said in Bledisloe 1:
If Tupaea's injury was career ending, could he take Swain to court? I remember reading about a couple of ex league players in court.
This thought had occurred. It is to my mind seriously career threatening.
Wonder if he is hamstrung by ACC laws in NZ? Could he sue in another country?
P.S. am not an advocate for matching the ban to the time out. Just can't really work like that.
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@mikedogz said in Bledisloe 1:
If Tupaea's injury was career ending, could he take Swain to court? I remember reading about a couple of ex league players in court.
This thought had occurred. It is to my mind seriously career threatening.
Wonder if he is hamstrung by ACC laws in NZ? Could he sue in another country?
P.S. am not an advocate for matching the ban to the time out. Just can't really work like that.
@booboo said in Bledisloe 1:
@mikedogz said in Bledisloe 1:
If Tupaea's injury was career ending, could he take Swain to court? I remember reading about a couple of ex league players in court.
This thought had occurred. It is to my mind seriously career threatening.
Wonder if he is hamstrung by ACC laws in NZ? Could he sue in another country?
P.S. am not an advocate for matching the ban to the time out. Just can't really work like that.
Reminds me of this.
I’ll also point out that it’s incredibly depressing to realise this happened TWENTY fucken years ago. In my mind it feels relatively recent !
https://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12321/2887140/greening-loses-court-battle
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If Tupaea's injury was career ending, could he take Swain to court? I remember reading about a couple of ex league players in court.
@mikedogz said in Bledisloe 1:
If Tupaea's injury was career ending, could he take Swain to court? I remember reading about a couple of ex league players in court.
Jarrod McCracken
