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Bledisloe 2

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129937661/wallaby-darcy-swain-gets-judiciary-date-after-ugly-quinn-tupaea-incident--and-a-long-ban-is-possible

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      @voodoo I was going of the posts from the last game saying he was ineffective.

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      @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

      @voodoo I was going of the posts from the last game saying he was ineffective.

      as a 6. Most on here would have him in top 2 locks now I suspect.
      I thought I heard Brodie say before the match that SB called the lineout strategy and probably would even from 6 and given the lineouts have improved over the year (?) it makes sense that Jason Ryan rates him highly (at least as lock)...but yes on listening to Ryan he highly rates him at 6 too. I'm also surprised a little, didn't notice him that much during the game..maybe he was doing all the dirty work...

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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

        @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

        I have always just seen a difference between

        "im going to tackle this knee"

        and

        "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

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        @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

        @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

        I have always just seen a difference between

        "im going to tackle this knee"

        and

        "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

        That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

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        • BonesB Bones

          @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

          @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

          I have always just seen a difference between

          "im going to tackle this knee"

          and

          "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

          That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

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          Kiwiwomble
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          #123

          @Bones and i see that as different to someone that sees a knee and still decides to tackle said knee....not without any responsibility...but different to the later for me

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            @Bones and i see that as different to someone that sees a knee and still decides to tackle said knee....not without any responsibility...but different to the later for me

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            @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

            @Bones and i see that as different to someone that sees a knee and still decides to tackle said knee....not without any responsibility...but different to the later for me

            I don't. You know others are going to be competing for the ball, pretending they don't exist is the same as seeing a knee and still driving.

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            • BonesB Bones

              @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

              @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

              I have always just seen a difference between

              "im going to tackle this knee"

              and

              "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

              That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

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              #125

              @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

              @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

              @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

              I have always just seen a difference between

              "im going to tackle this knee"

              and

              "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

              That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

              These guys are the best in the business. They know exactly what they are doing

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              • BonesB Bones

                @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                @Bones and i see that as different to someone that sees a knee and still decides to tackle said knee....not without any responsibility...but different to the later for me

                I don't. You know others are going to be competing for the ball, pretending they don't exist is the same as seeing a knee and still driving.

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                @Bones ok

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                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                  @Bones ok

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                  @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                  @Bones ok

                  Being a coach I hope you're not teaching guys that they can just pretend they were only looking at the ball and they can get away with anything...

                  Maybe Swain only saw the ball and not QT.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                    @Bones ok

                    Being a coach I hope you're not teaching guys that they can just pretend they were only looking at the ball and they can get away with anything...

                    Maybe Swain only saw the ball and not QT.

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                    Kiwiwomble
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                    @Bones thats not what i said

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                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                      @Bones thats not what i said

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                      @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                      @Bones thats not what i said

                      ok

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                        @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                        @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

                        I have always just seen a difference between

                        "im going to tackle this knee"

                        and

                        "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

                        That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

                        These guys are the best in the business. They know exactly what they are doing

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                        Crucial
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                        #130

                        @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                        @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                        @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                        @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

                        I have always just seen a difference between

                        "im going to tackle this knee"

                        and

                        "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

                        That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

                        These guys are the best in the business. They know exactly what they are doing

                        For a moment there I thought you were talking about the judiciary 😅

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                          @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                          @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                          @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

                          I have always just seen a difference between

                          "im going to tackle this knee"

                          and

                          "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

                          That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

                          These guys are the best in the business. They know exactly what they are doing

                          For a moment there I thought you were talking about the judiciary 😅

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                          Machpants
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                          #131

                          @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                          @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                          @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                          @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                          @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

                          I have always just seen a difference between

                          "im going to tackle this knee"

                          and

                          "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

                          That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

                          These guys are the best in the business. They know exactly what they are doing

                          For a moment there I thought you were talking about the judiciary 😅

                          alt text

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                            @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                            @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                            @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

                            @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                            @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

                            I have always just seen a difference between

                            "im going to tackle this knee"

                            and

                            "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

                            That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

                            These guys are the best in the business. They know exactly what they are doing

                            For a moment there I thought you were talking about the judiciary 😅

                            alt text

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                            #132

                            @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

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                              @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                              @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

                              Riiiiiiiiight. BBBR broken cheek and an upended Beaudy says you're talking arse

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                              • M Machpants

                                @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

                                Riiiiiiiiight. BBBR broken cheek and an upended Beaudy says you're talking arse

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                                @Machpants BBBR = the Irishman got yellow. Never reached the Judiciary.

                                The decision and 4-week suspension of Arendse was entirely predictable and totally consistent with the Regulations and how they are consistently applied.

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

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                                  @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

                                  Up to the point where they pull some shit out about the player telling his mum how much shame he feels so we will reduce the regulated ban.
                                  Start points are also totally at the panel discretion.

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    @Machpants BBBR = the Irishman got yellow. Never reached the Judiciary.

                                    The decision and 4-week suspension of Arendse was entirely predictable and totally consistent with the Regulations and how they are consistently applied.

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                                    @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                                    @Machpants BBBR = the Irishman got yellow. Never reached the Judiciary.

                                    The decision and 4-week suspension of Arendse was entirely predictable and totally consistent with the Regulations and how they are consistently applied.

                                    I was talking about the frog a few years ago. And wrong

                                    DISCIPLINARY UPDATE: A citing complaint against Ireland prop Andrew Porter for an act of foul play has been dismissed by an independent judicial committee.
                                    Porter was cited on Monday for the high tackle which broke the cheekbone of New Zealand lock Brodie Retallick during last weekend’s series-clinching 32-22 victory over the All Blacks.

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                                      @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

                                      Up to the point where they pull some shit out about the player telling his mum how much shame he feels so we will reduce the regulated ban.
                                      Start points are also totally at the panel discretion.

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                                      @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                                      @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                                      @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

                                      Up to the point where they pull some shit out about the player telling his mum how much shame he feels so we will reduce the regulated ban.
                                      Start points are also totally at the panel discretion.

                                      Incorrect. If there's head contact, the minimum starting point is always mid-range.

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                                        @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                                        @Machpants BBBR = the Irishman got yellow. Never reached the Judiciary.

                                        The decision and 4-week suspension of Arendse was entirely predictable and totally consistent with the Regulations and how they are consistently applied.

                                        I was talking about the frog a few years ago. And wrong

                                        DISCIPLINARY UPDATE: A citing complaint against Ireland prop Andrew Porter for an act of foul play has been dismissed by an independent judicial committee.
                                        Porter was cited on Monday for the high tackle which broke the cheekbone of New Zealand lock Brodie Retallick during last weekend’s series-clinching 32-22 victory over the All Blacks.

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                                        @Machpants Okay, that disciplinary update isn't on SANZAAR's website. Still don't think it's a lottery. They have their own guidelines and they have camera angles that we don't get to see.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

                                          Up to the point where they pull some shit out about the player telling his mum how much shame he feels so we will reduce the regulated ban.
                                          Start points are also totally at the panel discretion.

                                          Incorrect. If there's head contact, the minimum starting point is always mid-range.

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                                          Crucial
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                                          @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

                                          Up to the point where they pull some shit out about the player telling his mum how much shame he feels so we will reduce the regulated ban.
                                          Start points are also totally at the panel discretion.

                                          Incorrect. If there's head contact, the minimum starting point is always mid-range.

                                          Still just a start point. There may be minimums for some acts but still the refs pass plenty onto the panel

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