Bledisloe 2
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Interesting that the stand down period for a failed HIA is 7 days. So technically Havili is available for Saturday. Not sure about that as realistically someone with concussion symptoms should only be on light training duties during the week but I'll guess we'll find out.
Cane I think will play. I don't think it was a heavy knock and it's the same situation as with Sexton from the first to second test.
If both are deemed fit then we might see the only change being Savea into 8 and Reece (or RTS) onto the bench. Maybe Ofa for Newell.
I'd be happy with that. There was genuine periods of dominance in the first test, and if not for lapses in concentration it should have been a comfortable BP victory.
@Frye said in Bledisloe 2:
Interesting that the stand down period for a failed HIA is 7 days. So technically Havili is available for Saturday. Not sure about that as realistically someone with concussion symptoms should only be on light training duties during the week but I'll guess we'll find out.
That is so out of line with the NZR rugby guidelines. If you even complain of a headache two days after a possible concussion you are on a 21 day stand down with light training only happening toward the latter part of that.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:
@booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.
You’re just mean bro, and I love it.
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:
@booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.
You’re just mean bro, and I love it.
Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:
@booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.
You’re just mean bro, and I love it.
Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:
@booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.
You’re just mean bro, and I love it.
Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.
Just give Foley a countdown from about 30 every time he has a penalty kick to touch
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:
@booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.
You’re just mean bro, and I love it.
Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.
Just give Foley a countdown from about 30 every time he has a penalty kick to touch
@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:
@booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.
You’re just mean bro, and I love it.
Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.
Just give Foley a countdown from about 30 every time he has a penalty kick to touch
30? 20 is more than enough. 10 to make a point.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:
@booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.
You’re just mean bro, and I love it.
Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:
@booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.
You’re just mean bro, and I love it.
Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.
hopefully every time he touches the ball
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@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:
@booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.
You’re just mean bro, and I love it.
Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.
Just give Foley a countdown from about 30 every time he has a penalty kick to touch
30? 20 is more than enough. 10 to make a point.
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Bledisloe 2:
@booboo I think every time the Wallaby's are awarded a kick the crowd should just count out the seconds until the kick and then cheer when it is taken.
You’re just mean bro, and I love it.
Would be bloody funny. Even just chants of 'hurry up' would be good.
Just give Foley a countdown from about 30 every time he has a penalty kick to touch
30? 20 is more than enough. 10 to make a point.
Yeah but he clearly feels he needs at least 30.....
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Listened to a bit of SENZ Simthy talking to I Cristy Doran from Fox (think Monday?).
He seems convinced WR are going to back down and apologise. Just stated it as a fact.
Seems reflective of the Aussie sentiment.
I'm pretty sure WR is going to back the ref.
Will add to my enjoyment of the meltdown
@booboo said in Bledisloe 2:
Listened to a bit of SENZ Simthy talking to I Cristy Doran from Fox (think Monday?).
He seems convinced WR are going to back down and apologise. Just stated it as a fact.Christy Doran- girl's name BTW - is a fucking Fox stooge who was perfectly happy to write articles devaluing the game here in the lead up to negotiations.
Either s/he knows fuck all about rugby, or is doing a great job pretending to...
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@booboo said in Bledisloe 2:
Listened to a bit of SENZ Simthy talking to I Cristy Doran from Fox (think Monday?).
He seems convinced WR are going to back down and apologise. Just stated it as a fact.Christy Doran- girl's name BTW - is a fucking Fox stooge who was perfectly happy to write articles devaluing the game here in the lead up to negotiations.
Either s/he knows fuck all about rugby, or is doing a great job pretending to...
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@Frye said in Bledisloe 2:
Interesting that the stand down period for a failed HIA is 7 days. So technically Havili is available for Saturday. Not sure about that as realistically someone with concussion symptoms should only be on light training duties during the week but I'll guess we'll find out.
That is so out of line with the NZR rugby guidelines. If you even complain of a headache two days after a possible concussion you are on a 21 day stand down with light training only happening toward the latter part of that.
Apparently test players grow stronger brains?@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@Frye said in Bledisloe 2:
Interesting that the stand down period for a failed HIA is 7 days. So technically Havili is available for Saturday. Not sure about that as realistically someone with concussion symptoms should only be on light training duties during the week but I'll guess we'll find out.
That is so out of line with the NZR rugby guidelines. If you even complain of a headache two days after a possible concussion you are on a 21 day stand down with light training only happening toward the latter part of that.
Apparently test players grow stronger brains?In theory, Test players have access to proper specialists who can assess effects on them. Amateurs get the extra low risk version with the longer stand down.
But, yeah.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@Frye said in Bledisloe 2:
Interesting that the stand down period for a failed HIA is 7 days. So technically Havili is available for Saturday. Not sure about that as realistically someone with concussion symptoms should only be on light training duties during the week but I'll guess we'll find out.
That is so out of line with the NZR rugby guidelines. If you even complain of a headache two days after a possible concussion you are on a 21 day stand down with light training only happening toward the latter part of that.
Apparently test players grow stronger brains?In theory, Test players have access to proper specialists who can assess effects on them. Amateurs get the extra low risk version with the longer stand down.
But, yeah.
@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@Frye said in Bledisloe 2:
Interesting that the stand down period for a failed HIA is 7 days. So technically Havili is available for Saturday. Not sure about that as realistically someone with concussion symptoms should only be on light training duties during the week but I'll guess we'll find out.
That is so out of line with the NZR rugby guidelines. If you even complain of a headache two days after a possible concussion you are on a 21 day stand down with light training only happening toward the latter part of that.
Apparently test players grow stronger brains?In theory, Test players have access to proper specialists who can assess effects on them. Amateurs get the extra low risk version with the longer stand down.
But, yeah.
They still get baselined and go to specialists for assessment. Maybe there are special specialists?
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Havili and Cane don't appear in any of the photos of training that I've seen this week.
RTS, Jacobson, Perofeta, Reece, Vaa'i, Ardie, Akira, Ennor, Frizell etc all do, so I expect some of them in the 23, but not Cane and Havili.
@Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:
Havili and Cane don't appear in any of the photos of training that I've seen this week.
RTS, Jacobson, Perofeta, Reece, Vaa'i, Ardie, Akira, Ennor, Frizell etc all do, so I expect some of them in the 23, but not Cane and Havili.
There was an article from Hinton yesterday that alluded to Havili not far off, but Cane unlikely.. of course that could still mean both out, but Cane looks long odds for sure
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i mean, havili's has a good run of games at 12, wouldn't hurt to give him a week
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@Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:
Havili and Cane don't appear in any of the photos of training that I've seen this week.
RTS, Jacobson, Perofeta, Reece, Vaa'i, Ardie, Akira, Ennor, Frizell etc all do, so I expect some of them in the 23, but not Cane and Havili.
There was an article from Hinton yesterday that alluded to Havili not far off, but Cane unlikely.. of course that could still mean both out, but Cane looks long odds for sure
@bayimports said in Bledisloe 2:
@Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:
Havili and Cane don't appear in any of the photos of training that I've seen this week.
RTS, Jacobson, Perofeta, Reece, Vaa'i, Ardie, Akira, Ennor, Frizell etc all do, so I expect some of them in the 23, but not Cane and Havili.
There was an article from Hinton yesterday that alluded to Havili not far off, but Cane unlikely.. of course that could still mean both out, but Cane looks long odds for sure
That was guesswork from Hinton about Cane based on his history. He assumed that more care would be taken.
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@bayimports said in Bledisloe 2:
@Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:
Havili and Cane don't appear in any of the photos of training that I've seen this week.
RTS, Jacobson, Perofeta, Reece, Vaa'i, Ardie, Akira, Ennor, Frizell etc all do, so I expect some of them in the 23, but not Cane and Havili.
There was an article from Hinton yesterday that alluded to Havili not far off, but Cane unlikely.. of course that could still mean both out, but Cane looks long odds for sure
That was guesswork from Hinton about Cane based on his history. He assumed that more care would be taken.
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:
@bayimports said in Bledisloe 2:
@Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:
Havili and Cane don't appear in any of the photos of training that I've seen this week.
RTS, Jacobson, Perofeta, Reece, Vaa'i, Ardie, Akira, Ennor, Frizell etc all do, so I expect some of them in the 23, but not Cane and Havili.
There was an article from Hinton yesterday that alluded to Havili not far off, but Cane unlikely.. of course that could still mean both out, but Cane looks long odds for sure
That was guesswork from Hinton about Cane based on his history. He assumed that more care would be taken.
Sure its guesswork be he also made the same point as @Stargazer about who he had seen at training. Cane was still in his track pants for the skill units at the finish of Tuesday training. Media kept out of main session.
I don't think its an unreasonable guess and why I agree with @Stargazer , I'm also picking he wont play (my guess)
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Cane might be taking it easy early in the week as a precaution with the intention of stepping it up later on.
I thought Havili was ruled out but then Ryan mentioned he was still an option. Looking at the 12 day protocol from world rugby it says: "No player will return earlier than the seventh day after injury, and any player's return will need to be approved by an independent concussion consultant."
So, I guess Havili is technically available if he is approved by an independent consultant?
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Hopefully a finals mentality, not semi finals mentality
https://www.allblacks.com/news/finals-mentality-for-the-all-blacks/
@Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:
Hopefully a finals mentality, not semi finals mentality
https://www.allblacks.com/news/finals-mentality-for-the-all-blacks/
What does that even mean, should you not be mentally right for every game? Do you play better with a final's mentality? Has that been our problem all year, we just didn't have a finals mentality?
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:
Hopefully a finals mentality, not semi finals mentality
https://www.allblacks.com/news/finals-mentality-for-the-all-blacks/
What does that even mean, should you not be mentally right for every game? Do you play better with a final's mentality? Has that been our problem all year, we just didn't have a finals mentality?
@chimoaus said in Bledisloe 2:
@Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:
Hopefully a finals mentality, not semi finals mentality
https://www.allblacks.com/news/finals-mentality-for-the-all-blacks/
What does that even mean, should you not be mentally right for every game? Do you play better with a final's mentality? Has that been our problem all year, we just didn't have a finals mentality?
Foster's ABs are normally happy with losing cos learnings and excitement for the next one. He says it all the time, I am not acutally joking, sadly
