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All Blacks v England

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    All three top locks will start. I'm sure that SB will be at 6.

    I haven't read the Scotland match thread yet but Christie has played his way out of the 23, while Telea has played his way in.

    Jordie's lack of pace at fullback was noticeable, but he has to go back to 2nd 5.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks Vs England:

    All three top locks will start. I'm sure that SB will be at 6.

    I haven't read the Scotland match thread yet but Christie has played his way out of the 23, while Telea has played his way in.

    Jordie's lack of pace at fullback was noticeable, but he has to go back to 2nd 5.

    perhaps you have read the Scotland thread lol..I think you could be on the money, definitely JB at 12 and I think Talea may have forced his way in too.

    If SB not at 6 it will be Frizell I think from what they will be looking for.

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      Top 15 should be pretty clear cut. No one has really pushed their claim when given a chance.

      In saying that - I'd have Telea over Reece at 14. Of course Jordan would be there had he not been ruled out of the tour.

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      • bayimportsB bayimports

        @Bovidae said in All Blacks Vs England:

        All three top locks will start. I'm sure that SB will be at 6.

        I haven't read the Scotland match thread yet but Christie has played his way out of the 23, while Telea has played his way in.

        Jordie's lack of pace at fullback was noticeable, but he has to go back to 2nd 5.

        perhaps you have read the Scotland thread lol..I think you could be on the money, definitely JB at 12 and I think Talea may have forced his way in too.

        If SB not at 6 it will be Frizell I think from what they will be looking for.

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        @bayimports said in All Blacks Vs England:

        Talea

        I may be set for a whinge of Messum and Reid like proportions... unless I'm missing the joke?

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        • bayimportsB bayimports

          @Bovidae said in All Blacks Vs England:

          All three top locks will start. I'm sure that SB will be at 6.

          I haven't read the Scotland match thread yet but Christie has played his way out of the 23, while Telea has played his way in.

          Jordie's lack of pace at fullback was noticeable, but he has to go back to 2nd 5.

          perhaps you have read the Scotland thread lol..I think you could be on the money, definitely JB at 12 and I think Talea may have forced his way in too.

          If SB not at 6 it will be Frizell I think from what they will be looking for.

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          @bayimports yea that's the interesting call, do we go Whitelock, Retallick & SB at 6. Or Frizell at 6.

          I think I want to see Barrett there.

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          • boobooB booboo

            @bayimports said in All Blacks Vs England:

            Talea

            I may be set for a whinge of Messum and Reid like proportions... unless I'm missing the joke?

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            @booboo said in All Blacks Vs England:

            @bayimports said in All Blacks Vs England:

            Talea

            I may be set for a whinge of Messum and Reid like proportions... unless I'm missing the joke?

            Reiko will be starting so no need to worry.

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            • chimoausC chimoaus

              @booboo said in All Blacks Vs England:

              @bayimports said in All Blacks Vs England:

              Talea

              I may be set for a whinge of Messum and Reid like proportions... unless I'm missing the joke?

              Reiko will be starting so no need to worry.

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              @chimoaus said in All Blacks Vs England:

              @booboo said in All Blacks Vs England:

              @bayimports said in All Blacks Vs England:

              Talea

              I may be set for a whinge of Messum and Reid like proportions... unless I'm missing the joke?

              Reiko will be starting so no need to worry.

              But he'll be outside Jodie

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              • bayimportsB bayimports

                @Bovidae said in All Blacks Vs England:

                All three top locks will start. I'm sure that SB will be at 6.

                I haven't read the Scotland match thread yet but Christie has played his way out of the 23, while Telea has played his way in.

                Jordie's lack of pace at fullback was noticeable, but he has to go back to 2nd 5.

                perhaps you have read the Scotland thread lol..I think you could be on the money, definitely JB at 12 and I think Talea may have forced his way in too.

                If SB not at 6 it will be Frizell I think from what they will be looking for.

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                @bayimports said in All Blacks Vs England:

                @Bovidae said in All Blacks Vs England:

                All three top locks will start. I'm sure that SB will be at 6.

                I haven't read the Scotland match thread yet but Christie has played his way out of the 23, while Telea has played his way in.

                Jordie's lack of pace at fullback was noticeable, but he has to go back to 2nd 5.

                perhaps you have read the Scotland thread lol..I think you could be on the money, definitely JB at 12 and I think Talea may have forced his way in too.

                If SB not at 6 it will be Frizell I think from what they will be looking for.

                I thought SF was solid, which was a very pleasing attribute at the time he came on.

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                  I'm very happy we aren't playing France. No way do we look ready.

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                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                    I'm very happy we aren't playing France. No way do we look ready.

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                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England:

                    I'm very happy we aren't playing France. No way do we look ready.

                    why? France, playing at home, have fallen over the line in their last 2 games against sides we would easily be able to argue we are better than.

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                      Scooter to 6 for me
                      Reece and Telea

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                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                        I'm very happy we aren't playing France. No way do we look ready.

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                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England:

                        I'm very happy we aren't playing France. No way do we look ready.

                        Dude, we'll smash England. Last game was the shit game, Foster's ABs alternate OK/good and shit. England are similar and played well vs Japan. The stars are aligning!

                        Shame to win a RWC you need 3 good ones in a row

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England:

                          I'm very happy we aren't playing France. No way do we look ready.

                          why? France, playing at home, have fallen over the line in their last 2 games against sides we would easily be able to argue we are better than.

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                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs England:

                          why? France, playing at home, have fallen over the line in their last 2 games against sides we would easily be able to argue we are better than.

                          Maybe we'd be competitive but they look super tough to me (S Africa played super amped and still lost) and I am still getting over that near loss to Scotland. Summary: maybe the ABs would be ok but I don't think my heart is up to it.

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                            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England:

                            I'm very happy we aren't playing France. No way do we look ready.

                            Dude, we'll smash England. Last game was the shit game, Foster's ABs alternate OK/good and shit. England are similar and played well vs Japan. The stars are aligning!

                            Shame to win a RWC you need 3 good ones in a row

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                            @Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England:

                            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England:

                            I'm very happy we aren't playing France. No way do we look ready.

                            Dude, we'll smash England. Last game was the shit game, Foster's ABs alternate OK/good and shit. England are similar and played well vs Japan. The stars are aligning!

                            Shame to win a RWC you need 3 good ones in a row

                            you may be right. Hopefully Eddie tries to goad the ABs and it motivates them.
                            But France still look damn good. Not as good without Dupont though.

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                            • M Machpants

                              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England:

                              I'm very happy we aren't playing France. No way do we look ready.

                              Dude, we'll smash England. Last game was the shit game, Foster's ABs alternate OK/good and shit. England are similar and played well vs Japan. The stars are aligning!

                              Shame to win a RWC you need 3 good ones in a row

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                              @Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England:

                              Shame to win a RWC you need 3 good ones in a row

                              Even in 2015 we struggled against SA and didn't play well - just did enough.

                              2011 was the final... we really went into our shells after a few things didn't go our way.

                              2007 .... arguable about how well we played against the frogs, but we certainly went to pieces mentally.

                              Frankly, a lot of RWC is the draw. Look at SA 2007: Fiji Argentina England to win the thing...

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                                It’s been a bang average year. Hopefully the ABs can ride off into the sunset to the sound of a forlorn, halfhearted, feeble Swing Low having beaten England out the gate.

                                Selecting needs to be much better in 2023. Year is basically summed up by Karl T and PGS.

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                                • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                  It’s been a bang average year. Hopefully the ABs can ride off into the sunset to the sound of a forlorn, halfhearted, feeble Swing Low having beaten England out the gate.

                                  Selecting needs to be much better in 2023. Year is basically summed up by Karl T and PGS.

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                                  @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                  It’s been a bang average year.

                                  Does seem that way yet somehow we still have the Bled and the RC and are mikes ahead in the calendar year try scoring count.

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                    It’s been a bang average year.

                                    Does seem that way yet somehow we still have the Bled and the RC and are mikes ahead in the calendar year try scoring count.

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                                    @Crucial said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                    It’s been a bang average year.

                                    Does seem that way yet somehow we still have the Bled and the RC and are mikes ahead in the calendar year try scoring count.

                                    It's Mark Telea, not Mike.

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                                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                      I'm very happy we aren't playing France. No way do we look ready.

                                      Dude, we'll smash England. Last game was the shit game, Foster's ABs alternate OK/good and shit. England are similar and played well vs Japan. The stars are aligning!

                                      Shame to win a RWC you need 3 good ones in a row

                                      you may be right. Hopefully Eddie tries to goad the ABs and it motivates them.
                                      But France still look damn good. Not as good without Dupont though.

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                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                      Hopefully Eddie tries to goad the ABs and it motivates them.

                                      If that makes ya feel better then swing for the stars!

                                      I find it pretty funny to think the professional ABs playing England at Twickenham in their final match of the year after a lacklustre showing against Scotland - would need a known troll to be a bit mean just so they can be motivated.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @Crucial said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                        @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                        It’s been a bang average year.

                                        Does seem that way yet somehow we still have the Bled and the RC and are mikes ahead in the calendar year try scoring count.

                                        It's Mark Telea, not Mike.

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                        @Crucial said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                        @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks Vs England:

                                        It’s been a bang average year.

                                        Does seem that way yet somehow we still have the Bled and the RC and are mikes ahead in the calendar year try scoring count.

                                        It's Mark Telea, not Mike.

                                        From now on I shall refer to the right winger who made his debut against Scotland this morning (NZT) as Mike Talea.

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                                          For all the talk about the AB selection , I feel the England selection to be both more interesting and more problematic.

                                          Have Eddie’s recent selections been of any help in his “learnings”? 😄 S Foster. (Amusingly that came out as Fister, what that says about my browsing history is worrying). Has he a much clearer view on his starting XV than me might believe? Will he persist with Farrell at 12 and shoe horn Tuilagi in at 13? What is going to happen at 9 and 8?

                                          The answer to all those questions is fuck knows. 😬

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