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All Blacks v England

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    The game-drivers didn't stand up in the 2nd half especially. BB's yellow card, Mo'unga was poor all game, and Whitelock should have shown some leadership.

    The English definitely targeted the AB props in the defensive line.

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      BerniesCorner
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      Nearly

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        kev
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        Our mindset is not to kick long. Never did it. Short kicking options in last 10 terrible.

        Too many mistakes in first half left door open.

        Laulala is a liability. His inability to get into defensive line created room for the try and yellow card. His selection just atrocious.

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        • No QuarterN No Quarter

          @Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:

          @No-Quarter I don't blame BB for the loss, I blame him for giving England the momentum back. Our defence wasn't good enough, and his card made that harder.

          You only begin about Mo'unga, because I criticise your boy BB.

          OK sure, well I'll blame Mo'unga for the missed touch finder that would have led to us scoring and putting the game well out of reach. Instead we had to defend for long periods on our line sapping our energy. Take a long hard look at yourself in the mirror Richie.

          Stupid huh?

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          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v England:

          @Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:

          @No-Quarter I don't blame BB for the loss, I blame him for giving England the momentum back. Our defence wasn't good enough, and his card made that harder.

          You only begin about Mo'unga, because I criticise your boy BB.

          OK sure, well I'll blame Mo'unga for the missed touch finder that would have led to us scoring and putting the game well out of reach. Instead we had to defend for long periods on our line sapping our energy. Take a long hard look at yourself in the mirror Richie.

          Stupid huh?

          Most un-Crusader-like. They are brilliant at kicking deep and forcing mistakes

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            TJ yikes

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            • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

              People on Social media are blaming TJ for the last box kick 🤦. Reality is BB got fairly carded and the defence crumbled in the final 10.

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              @Yeetyaah said in All Blacks v England:

              People on Social media are blaming TJ for the last box kick 🤦. Reality is BB got fairly carded and the defence crumbled in the final 10.

              TJ did so well after being dropped. But that last box kick was really dumb. Feel bad for him after making his way back

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                The game-drivers didn't stand up in the 2nd half especially. BB's yellow card, Mo'unga was poor all game, and Whitelock should have shown some leadership.

                The English definitely targeted the AB props in the defensive line.

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                @Bovidae I actually liked RM's running game and his game management was excellent. Yes, two missed touch finders, but overall a good game.

                It seems people have already forgotten that we were playing well until the 70th minute.

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                  Lineouts and kickoffs were poor. Lots of praise for Ryan around scrums and driving play but aerial set piece needs a lot of work.

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    @Bovidae I actually liked RM's running game and his game management was excellent. Yes, two missed touch finders, but overall a good game.

                    It seems people have already forgotten that we were playing well until the 70th minute.

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                    DMX
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                    @Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:

                    @Bovidae I actually RM's running game and game management was excellent. Yes, two missed touch finders, but overall a good game.

                    Mounga was shite.

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @sparky said in All Blacks v England:

                      The team's review of that last ten minute should be totally honest and utterly brutal. What went wrong frame by frame by frame. We've got 11 months how do we fix each and every thing that went wrong?

                      Might be a blessing in disguise. A shellacking would give us overconfidence

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                      @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                      @sparky said in All Blacks v England:

                      The team's review of that last ten minute should be totally honest and utterly brutal. What went wrong frame by frame by frame. We've got 11 months how do we fix each and every thing that went wrong?

                      Might be a blessing in disguise. A shellacking would give us overconfidence

                      As disappointing as it was the draw is probably a reality of where we are at ,

                      Better than earlier in the year when we were utter shit , but still a 50 50 or thereabouts against the top sides in a big game

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @Bovidae I actually liked RM's running game and his game management was excellent. Yes, two missed touch finders, but overall a good game.

                        It seems people have already forgotten that we were playing well until the 70th minute.

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                        @Stargazer The poor pass to Ioane in the 1st half. Another in the 2nd half that led to a England penalty. He did some good things but struggled when he didn't have any space.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @Stargazer The poor pass to Ioane in the 1st half. Another in the 2nd half that led to a England penalty. He did some good things but struggled when he didn't have any space.

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                          @Bovidae Not having space, that's it though, isn't it. Have to look at team mates for that.

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                          • K kev

                            Our mindset is not to kick long. Never did it. Short kicking options in last 10 terrible.

                            Too many mistakes in first half left door open.

                            Laulala is a liability. His inability to get into defensive line created room for the try and yellow card. His selection just atrocious.

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                            @kev said in All Blacks v England:

                            Our mindset is not to kick long. Never did it. Short kicking options in last 10 terrible.

                            Too many mistakes in first half left door open.

                            Laulala is a liability. His inability to get into defensive line created room for the try and yellow card. His selection just atrocitious.

                            Our players can't adjust the game plan based on the game situation. Kick short, if you want. Don't do it when you only have 14 players. Don't do it when you are defending a lead.

                            We are such a dream to play against. We crumble at the first sign of resistance.

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                              I guess we need to look at what happened when replacements came on too, did we drop off when they came on? Not really sure.

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                                England players bet their match fee on a draw. All Blacks bet theirs on an England win.

                                Advantage England.

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                                  England were under the pump till the 71st minute, but the ABs should have nailed the coffin long before. There were costly errors when the NZ forwards were destroying their English counterparts : two crooked throws by Taylor and two missed kicks by RM after favorable penalties.

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                                    @kev said in All Blacks v England:

                                    Our mindset is not to kick long. Never did it. Short kicking options in last 10 terrible.

                                    Too many mistakes in first half left door open.

                                    Laulala is a liability. His inability to get into defensive line created room for the try and yellow card. His selection just atrocitious.

                                    Our players can't adjust the game plan based on the game situation. Kick short, if you want. Don't do it when you only have 14 players. Don't do it when you are defending a lead.

                                    We are such a dream to play against. We crumble at the first sign of resistance.

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                                    @hydro11 said in All Blacks v England:

                                    @kev said in All Blacks v England:

                                    Our mindset is not to kick long. Never did it. Short kicking options in last 10 terrible.

                                    Too many mistakes in first half left door open.

                                    Laulala is a liability. His inability to get into defensive line created room for the try and yellow card. His selection just atrocitious.

                                    Our players can't adjust the game plan based on the game situation. Kick short, if you want. Don't do it when you only have 14 players. Don't do it when you are defending a lead.

                                    We are such a dream to play against. We crumble at the first sign of resistance.

                                    It was time to drive up the middle, keep to touch and burn clock

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                                      Telea already looks the part at this level. Another game breaking tackles or go forward in contact.

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                                        @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v England:

                                        @Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:

                                        Really disappointed that we gave it away. BB, take a long hard look at yourself. That comeback started with you.

                                        Haha come on, your boy Mo'unga missed touch twice from penalties, the second one ended up with England camped on our line when we should have been on theirs. You can't single one player out for that, we looked knackered at the end of a long season and England finished very strong.

                                        Our kick options are terrible. Barely kicked for touch when that's what was required

                                        Agreed we have no one who can kick for territory.

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                                        @DMX said in All Blacks v England:

                                        @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v England:

                                        @Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:

                                        Really disappointed that we gave it away. BB, take a long hard look at yourself. That comeback started with you.

                                        Haha come on, your boy Mo'unga missed touch twice from penalties, the second one ended up with England camped on our line when we should have been on theirs. You can't single one player out for that, we looked knackered at the end of a long season and England finished very strong.

                                        Our kick options are terrible. Barely kicked for touch when that's what was required

                                        Agreed we have no one who can kick for territory.

                                        We have Jordie Barrett! Not to mention Mounga and Beauden should both be able to do it.

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                                          Can't believe Nisbo thought it was a smart kick from TJ.

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