ABs picking overseas players - inevitable?
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@MiketheSnow said in ABs picking overseas players - inevitable?:
Don't discard the travel
Getting used to long distance travel and being away from home for a couple of weeks gives an advantage
Especially to less experienced players
They were already travelling for SR though
@canefan said in ABs picking overseas players - inevitable?:
@MiketheSnow said in ABs picking overseas players - inevitable?:
Don't discard the travel
Getting used to long distance travel and being away from home for a couple of weeks gives an advantage
Especially to less experienced players
They were already travelling for SR though
Yeh, they always said one of the reasons the wanted to leave (before they actually left @African-Monkey) was that the travel was easy going north-south than west-east.
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@DaGrubster Didn't the NZRU look at something like this years back with Saracens? I think the South Africans took the initiative with Saracens (bankrolled by Johann Rupert)
@stodders said in ABs picking overseas players - inevitable?:
@DaGrubster Didn't the NZRU look at something like this years back with Saracens? I think the South Africans took the initiative with Saracens (bankrolled by Johann Rupert)
i thought it was Quins...but yeah, something was announced and i thought we were going to take control of giving coaches and players experience in other leagues....dont think i saw anything come out of it after it was announced
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I been interested to read the argument for open selection policy etc because it works for Boks and Pumas. Boks are No 2 in world so works for them, but the rest of top 5 work on playing for local teams, Ireland at No 1, NZ, England and France do.
I just think the arguments about Boks and Pumas don't really hold water. I think it's more what works for each country!
I honestly think the rules we have at moment are pretty good, there is enough flexibility from NZR (not sure what others use)tc at moment. -
I been interested to read the argument for open selection policy etc because it works for Boks and Pumas. Boks are No 2 in world so works for them, but the rest of top 5 work on playing for local teams, Ireland at No 1, NZ, England and France do.
I just think the arguments about Boks and Pumas don't really hold water. I think it's more what works for each country!
I honestly think the rules we have at moment are pretty good, there is enough flexibility from NZR (not sure what others use)tc at moment.@Dan54 said in ABs picking overseas players - inevitable?:
I been interested to read the argument for open selection policy etc because it works for Boks and Pumas. Boks are No 2 in world so works for them, but the rest of top 5 work on playing for local teams, Ireland at No 1, NZ, England and France do.
I just think the arguments about Boks and Pumas don't really hold water. I think it's more what works for each country!
I honestly think the rules we have at moment are pretty good, there is enough flexibility from NZR (not sure what others use)tc at moment.I don't think many people are worried about it harming the All Blacks, they're worried about it harming the domestic game.
Also worth noting that South Africa have only had this carte blanche approach for a few years. Once they've cycled through a generation of players who played their formative rugby in South Africa, their situation might be different (but might not). The bigger thing is still the domestic game.
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@Dan54 said in ABs picking overseas players - inevitable?:
I been interested to read the argument for open selection policy etc because it works for Boks and Pumas. Boks are No 2 in world so works for them, but the rest of top 5 work on playing for local teams, Ireland at No 1, NZ, England and France do.
I just think the arguments about Boks and Pumas don't really hold water. I think it's more what works for each country!
I honestly think the rules we have at moment are pretty good, there is enough flexibility from NZR (not sure what others use)tc at moment.I don't think many people are worried about it harming the All Blacks, they're worried about it harming the domestic game.
Also worth noting that South Africa have only had this carte blanche approach for a few years. Once they've cycled through a generation of players who played their formative rugby in South Africa, their situation might be different (but might not). The bigger thing is still the domestic game.
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I think I've been had. I'm already very bearish on next season if that's how he feels. Perhaps the SuperCoach should just select good players and coach, instead of fapping over guys that chose to leave?
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I think I've been had. I'm already very bearish on next season if that's how he feels. Perhaps the SuperCoach should just select good players and coach, instead of fapping over guys that chose to leave?
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
I think I've been had
What a lame arse fluffybunny, picked shit players so he can play 'I need overseas players' card
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:
So he obviously wants Richie Mounga, Frizzell, LF etc before they officially return.
The dumb fuck doesn't need most of those guys. Wallace has already performed to a higher level in black than Frizell ever had. And given the chance Lakai will do too
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:
So he obviously wants Richie Mounga, Frizzell, LF etc before they officially return.
Bollocks. Razor obviously got wind that many on the Fern are not happy with him, so he is paving the way to select Akira, Sotutu and Plummer.
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I think I've been had. I'm already very bearish on next season if that's how he feels. Perhaps the SuperCoach should just select good players and coach, instead of fapping over guys that chose to leave?
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
I think I've been had. I'm already very bearish on next season if that's how he feels. Perhaps the SuperCoach should just select good players and coach, instead of fapping over guys that chose to leave?
Fuck no I am dead against picking overseas players.It will be the death nail of our competitions imo.
If players want to come back no problems but play in our competitions to be selected.
It sounds like Razor wants to keep Cane ffs.
Stupid idea Razor get your shit together and promote the players we have playing locally and players who return to play locally. -
I was hoping that was just another sensational media headline
But no, that's the AB coach wanting players who left NZ, in black and white.
That's fucking disgraceful.
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Just NO to overseas players. Yes if they play super rugby even in Australia. Find a way somehow to get Japan back into super rugby.
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I was hoping that was just another sensational media headline
But no, that's the AB coach wanting players who left NZ, in black and white.
That's fucking disgraceful.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
I was hoping that was just another sensational media headline
But no, that's the AB coach wanting players who left NZ, in black and white.
That's fucking disgraceful.
And, his rationale, TBH, is SA is a bit better than us so can we play by their rules?
That's not quite the coaching genius I signed up for.
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I was hoping that was just another sensational media headline
But no, that's the AB coach wanting players who left NZ, in black and white.
That's fucking disgraceful.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
I was hoping that was just another sensational media headline
But no, that's the AB coach wanting players who left NZ, in black and white.
That's fucking disgraceful.
And more to the point.
The players who left, did so, knowing they would be ineligible for Allblack selection going forward.
They didnt want to put their shoulder to the Allblack wheel anymore.
Fuck them.
I dont want any of them back.
You're with us or you're against us.
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Just NO to overseas players. Yes if they play super rugby even in Australia. Find a way somehow to get Japan back into super rugby.
@Billy-Tell Good point, if we had access to our Australian based Kiwis in Super Rugby, we would have a bit more depth. I wonder if he wants players to play Npc so they are All Black eligible as opposed to Super Rugby only playing for Kiwi franchises.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
I was hoping that was just another sensational media headline
But no, that's the AB coach wanting players who left NZ, in black and white.
That's fucking disgraceful.
And more to the point.
The players who left, did so, knowing they would be ineligible for Allblack selection going forward.
They didnt want to put their shoulder to the Allblack wheel anymore.
Fuck them.
I dont want any of them back.
You're with us or you're against us.
@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
The players who left, did so, knowing they would be ineligible for Allblack selection going forward.
Well some, but maybe some who were close to who they knew would be coach were told to cash in and he would get them back in the fold?
