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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Crucial roigard will not b at world cup

    Far too early to say. Injuries happen. Fakatava is living proof of poorly timed broken-ness.

    3 halfbacks and 5 genuine contenders IMO

    Is the law variation about 9s not allowed past tunnel in play?

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    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:

    @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Crucial roigard will not b at world cup

    Far too early to say. Injuries happen. Fakatava is living proof of poorly timed broken-ness.

    3 halfbacks and 5 genuine contenders IMO

    Is the law variation about 9s not allowed past tunnel in play?

    No that's a SR thing

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      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:

      @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

      @Crucial roigard will not b at world cup

      Far too early to say. Injuries happen. Fakatava is living proof of poorly timed broken-ness.

      3 halfbacks and 5 genuine contenders IMO

      Is the law variation about 9s not allowed past tunnel in play?

      No that's a SR thing

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      @Machpants roigard is about 8th on list need alot of injuries his time will come tho

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        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:

        @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

        @Crucial roigard will not b at world cup

        Far too early to say. Injuries happen. Fakatava is living proof of poorly timed broken-ness.

        3 halfbacks and 5 genuine contenders IMO

        Is the law variation about 9s not allowed past tunnel in play?

        No that's a SR thing

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        @Machpants hearing that fozzy and Joe r really keen on another 9 who has got something different to smith and co

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          @Machpants roigard is about 8th on list need alot of injuries his time will come tho

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          @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

          @Machpants roigard is about 8th on list need alot of injuries his time will come tho

          who are the other 7?

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            @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

            @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

            @Tim I'll be surprised if foster drops Christie. Think Roigard is in a battle with Weber, probably come down to who doesn't fade.

            Roigard is the bold choice, Webber has runs on the board in the black jersey

            What advantage does Christie have over Weber?

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            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:

            @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

            @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

            @Tim I'll be surprised if foster drops Christie. Think Roigard is in a battle with Weber, probably come down to who doesn't fade.

            Roigard is the bold choice, Webber has runs on the board in the black jersey

            What advantage does Christie have over Weber?

            Doesn't need lights to play at night?

            Christie can't give anyone confidence that he can play calmly and make good decisions. On current form, if he goes ahead of Roigard, we're fucked.

            My RWC nightmare is a knockout game with Aaron injured and the Blues halves starting.

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:

              @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

              @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

              @Tim I'll be surprised if foster drops Christie. Think Roigard is in a battle with Weber, probably come down to who doesn't fade.

              Roigard is the bold choice, Webber has runs on the board in the black jersey

              What advantage does Christie have over Weber?

              Doesn't need lights to play at night?

              Christie can't give anyone confidence that he can play calmly and make good decisions. On current form, if he goes ahead of Roigard, we're fucked.

              My RWC nightmare is a knockout game with Aaron injured and the Blues halves starting.

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              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2023:

              My RWC nightmare is a knockout game with Aaron injured and the Blues halves starting.

              I used to have a recurring nightmare about Donald lining up to kick the winning penalty goal in the RWC and hey! That actually worked out ok in RL - so you never know 🙂

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              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

                @Machpants roigard is about 8th on list need alot of injuries his time will come tho

                who are the other 7?

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                @Kiwiwomble smith, fakatava,Christie,perenara,Webber,Cortez ratima (highly rated),and the next bolter and your guy who has some work to do

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                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                  @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

                  @Machpants roigard is about 8th on list need alot of injuries his time will come tho

                  who are the other 7?

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                  @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                  @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

                  @Machpants roigard is about 8th on list need alot of injuries his time will come tho

                  who are the other 7?

                  Smith
                  Christie
                  Weber
                  Fakatava
                  Someone (TJP)
                  Someone
                  Someone
                  Roigard

                  I can't fill those other two spots. Going by EOYT with ABs and AB XV (plus injured) Roigard would sixth.
                  After Super I would say 4th or 5th depending on TJs for/opportunities.
                  Roigard outshining Fakatava at the moment (better ride though, I admit)

                  Whatever the case it is pretty stupid to declare an absolute at this stage especially when your track record on absolute statements is so shocking.

                  Edit: I like the look of Ratima but he is well behind Roigard in performance and selection.

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                  • G george33

                    @Kiwiwomble smith, fakatava,Christie,perenara,Webber,Cortez ratima (highly rated),and the next bolter and your guy who has some work to do

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                    @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @Kiwiwomble smith, fakatava,Christie,perenara,Webber,Cortez ratima (highly rated),and the next bolter and your guy who has some work to do

                    So he's seventh on a list that contains a mystery person? OK.

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

                      @Kiwiwomble smith, fakatava,Christie,perenara,Webber,Cortez ratima (highly rated),and the next bolter and your guy who has some work to do

                      So he's seventh on a list that contains a mystery person? OK.

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                      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:

                      @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

                      @Kiwiwomble smith, fakatava,Christie,perenara,Webber,Cortez ratima (highly rated),and the next bolter and your guy who has some work to do

                      So he's seventh on a list that contains a mystery person? OK.

                      yeah, beat me too it

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                        @Kiwiwomble smith, fakatava,Christie,perenara,Webber,Cortez ratima (highly rated),and the next bolter and your guy who has some work to do

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                        @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

                        @Kiwiwomble smith, fakatava,Christie,perenara,Webber,Cortez ratima (highly rated),and the next bolter and your guy who has some work to do

                        that makes sense to you?....you would put some hypothetical person that even you admit needs work...ahead of someone actually doing well, not even just making up the numbers, in super rugby....i no you can do better than that man

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @Kiwiwomble smith, fakatava,Christie,perenara,Webber,Cortez ratima (highly rated),and the next bolter and your guy who has some work to do

                          So he's seventh on a list that contains a mystery person? OK.

                          yeah, beat me too it

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                          george33
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                          @Kiwiwomble I said about 8th could b 7th or less or even more just take a look around I no for a fact joe Schmidt has 9 which I haven't included who he rates very high and could or should or maybe a big bolter for abs and world cup time

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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @Machpants roigard is about 8th on list need alot of injuries his time will come tho

                            who are the other 7?

                            Smith
                            Christie
                            Weber
                            Fakatava
                            Someone (TJP)
                            Someone
                            Someone
                            Roigard

                            I can't fill those other two spots. Going by EOYT with ABs and AB XV (plus injured) Roigard would sixth.
                            After Super I would say 4th or 5th depending on TJs for/opportunities.
                            Roigard outshining Fakatava at the moment (better ride though, I admit)

                            Whatever the case it is pretty stupid to declare an absolute at this stage especially when your track record on absolute statements is so shocking.

                            Edit: I like the look of Ratima but he is well behind Roigard in performance and selection.

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                            @Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:

                            Edit: I like the look of Ratima but he is well behind Roigard in performance and selection.

                            I wouldn't say "well behind" but Roigard was chosen for the AB XV ahead of Ratima, so must be rated above him by the selectors.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              @Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:

                              Edit: I like the look of Ratima but he is well behind Roigard in performance and selection.

                              I wouldn't say "well behind" but Roigard was chosen for the AB XV ahead of Ratima, so must be rated above him by the selectors.

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                              Crucial
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                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:

                              Edit: I like the look of Ratima but he is well behind Roigard in performance and selection.

                              I wouldn't say "well behind" but Roigard was chosen for the AB XV ahead of Ratima, so must be rated above him by the selectors.

                              But then both ended up with a similar opportunity.
                              My comment was more about current form. Roigard is the form NZ halfback and Ratima a bencher.

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                              • G george33

                                @Kiwiwomble I said about 8th could b 7th or less or even more just take a look around I no for a fact joe Schmidt has 9 which I haven't included who he rates very high and could or should or maybe a big bolter for abs and world cup time

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                                • CrucialC Crucial

                                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  Edit: I like the look of Ratima but he is well behind Roigard in performance and selection.

                                  I wouldn't say "well behind" but Roigard was chosen for the AB XV ahead of Ratima, so must be rated above him by the selectors.

                                  But then both ended up with a similar opportunity.
                                  My comment was more about current form. Roigard is the form NZ halfback and Ratima a bencher.

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                                  @Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  My comment was more about current form. Roigard is the form NZ halfback and Ratima a bencher.

                                  I don't disagree with you, and I was the first to mention Roigard in the RWC bolters thread.

                                  But if Roigard was on the bench behind Booth we wouldn't be having this discussion. 🙂

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                                  • G george33

                                    @Kiwiwomble I said about 8th could b 7th or less or even more just take a look around I no for a fact joe Schmidt has 9 which I haven't included who he rates very high and could or should or maybe a big bolter for abs and world cup time

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                                    @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @Kiwiwomble I said about 8th could b 7th or less or even more just take a look around I no for a fact joe Schmidt has 9 which I haven't included who he rates very high and could or should or maybe a big bolter for abs and world cup time

                                    Why don't you just say the name of the 9? Funaki? Roe (when back from injury)? Who is it?

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @Kiwiwomble I said about 8th could b 7th or less or even more just take a look around I no for a fact joe Schmidt has 9 which I haven't included who he rates very high and could or should or maybe a big bolter for abs and world cup time

                                      Why don't you just say the name of the 9? Funaki? Roe (when back from injury)? Who is it?

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                                      Machpants
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                                      @KiwiMurph Jeez dude, his statements about his secret inner knowledge have all been wrong so far, why are you even feeding the troll?

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                                        @KiwiMurph Jeez dude, his statements about his secret inner knowledge have all been wrong so far, why are you even feeding the troll?

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                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @KiwiMurph Jeez dude, his statements about his secret inner knowledge have all been wrong so far, why are you even feeding the troll?

                                        I'm a masochist.

                                        Hence the Blues fandom.

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