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All Blacks 2023

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  • M Mattasaurus

    Frizell ,Christie and CC .... I just don't see what they have done to get picked.

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    @Mattasaurus Been Foster's men.

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      What a cop out from Foster about Stevenson not making it because of his defence. He's defended well all year, 500 times better than Telea.

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        • KirwanK Kirwan

          Lol, something to piss off everyone. Several hilarious selections.

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          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:

          Several hilarious selections.

          It called "being bold".

          Looking at both the AB & AB VX squads feeding into the RWC selection, and taking into account players coming back from injury, it makes more sense.

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          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

            Interesting! I see Zarn is the best kicker for the Blues! 100%! (It's quality not quantity as the bishop said to the actress)...

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            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:

            Interesting! I see Zarn is the best kicker for the Blues! 100%! (It's quality not quantity as the bishop said to the actress)...

            Not always

            A 50% kicker who’s played 20 games that season is more valuable to the team than a 100% kicker who played four times

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              What a cop out from Foster about Stevenson not making it because of his defence. He's defended well all year, 500 times better than Telea.

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              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2023:

              What a cop out from Foster about Stevenson not making it because of his defence.

              Jordan isn't a great defender at fullback, so it will be interesting to see if he gets a go in that position.

              I expect that BB gets another lifeline in the no.15 jersey so Jordan plays on the right wing.

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              • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                I suspect the injury to Telea might have allowed the selectors to have the best of both worlds.

                Unsurprisingly, Stevenson needs to continue with the improvements that he has made in defence.

                ... Chiefs coach Clayton McMillan has been a vocal advocate of higher honours for Stevenson. Instead, the 27-year-old will provide injury cover for Mark Telea, who picked up a knock in the Blues' exit from Super Rugby.

                Asked what more Stevenson needed to do to be named as a fulltime squad member, though, coach Foster outlined the exact area he wants to see the Chiefs fullback improve in, with time running out for uncapped players to earn selection.

                "He'll find that out when he comes in," Foster told Sky Sport. "We've got pretty specific job requirements on both sides of the ball.

                "On the attack side, he's proven to be outstanding. He should be very proud of his year.

                "We've seen a massive improvement in the defensive structural stuff, the tackle and the contact work. But we still want to see a bit more in that space.

                "The fact he's going to come in, and be with us maybe for those first two tests, is a great opportunity to get a good read of that."

                Source: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/06/rugby-why-chiefs-standout-shaun-stevenson-was-overlooked-by-ian-foster-for-first-all-blacks-squad.html

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                @Donsteppa They had the same critisim of James Lowes regarding defence but like Stephenson possesses a massive kicking game but i reckon Stephenson is better in the air and has more gas
                International rugby is about defusing high kicks , and a little bit of game management with a big boot added in plus some offloading X factor and pace goes a long way.

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                  St Peter's Cambridge just tripled their AB reps tonight.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    What a cop out from Foster about Stevenson not making it because of his defence. He's defended well all year, 500 times better than Telea.

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                    TBF, he said SS has come a long way and wants him near the squad. Pretty clear they rate him highly and want to work with him on the issues they see.

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                      @Stargazer it says Tyrone Thompson as assigned to Wellington? Is that just a typo or is he coming back here?

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                        Brad Weber unlucky.
                        Finlay Christie lucky.
                        Gotta say - I was thinking Dallas McCleod might make it.
                        Probably a better 12 than Jordie -lol

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                          Cool your jets

                          There’s a LOT of rugby to be played before facing France

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                            Amazing to think that our 2019 u20s team which was our worst ever team at that level has produced 8 ABs.

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @Stargazer it says Tyrone Thompson as assigned to Wellington? Is that just a typo or is he coming back here?

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                              @Canes4life No, it's a mistake. He was stoked with his move to the Magpies after last season. Not just because he was back home, but also because he got lots of game time. No way he'll return to Wellington, sitting on the bench because Aumua gets the starts.

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                              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                Cool your jets

                                There’s a LOT of rugby to be played before facing France

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                                @MiketheSnow Yeah, I expect a different squad to be named for the RWC. Some who are missing from this ABs squad will get in; several others will drop out.

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                                  The interest will be in the naming of the 23 to play Argentina. Hopefully, it's not just the same old names in some positions.

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                                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                    Cool your jets

                                    There’s a LOT of rugby to be played before facing France

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                                    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    Cool your jets

                                    There’s a LOT of rugby to be played before facing France

                                    Five tests is a lot ?

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                                      Haven't heard any moaning about Sam Cane. That's a first.

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                                      • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                                        Haven't heard any moaning about Sam Cane. That's a first.

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                                        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        Haven't heard any moaning about Sam Cane. That's a first.

                                        That's on facebook.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          Ryan's comments about what he wants from a 6 weren't a surprise. I can only hope that his props also show some physicality.

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                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          Ryan's comments about what he wants from a 6 weren't a surprise. I can only hope that his props also show some physicality.

                                          Ryan's comments about selecting were also interesting, you know like actually going to as many games as possible and then following up with a lot of time on computer to check on individual things you want to see!

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