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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @Tim his comments re the captain are odd...

    Foster said he wanted to keep the identity of his captain under his hat at this stage, but admitted that the All Blacks were already “pretty clear” about who they wanted.

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    @taniwharugby If Foster is quoted correctly, that article is almost an endorsement of Cane as captain. He didn't say it, but it's pretty obvious.

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      @taniwharugby If Foster is quoted correctly, that article is almost an endorsement of Cane as captain. He didn't say it, but it's pretty obvious.

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      @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

      @taniwharugby If Foster is quoted correctly, that article is almost an endorsement of Cane as captain. He didn't say it, but it's pretty obvious.

      I wouldn't expect any less. He's loyal, at times to a fault. And he hitched his wagon to Cane from the start. The only thing that stops Sam leading us into the test season and RWC is his health

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        What a shit show. I can't figure out why some names are bold and others aren't.

        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/caleb-clarke-misses-out-in-former-all-blacks-preferred-world-cup-squad/

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        • BonesB Bones

          What a shit show. I can't figure out why some names are bold and others aren't.

          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/caleb-clarke-misses-out-in-former-all-blacks-preferred-world-cup-squad/

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          @Bones The bolded names are links.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            @taniwharugby If Foster is quoted correctly, that article is almost an endorsement of Cane as captain. He didn't say it, but it's pretty obvious.

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            @Stargazer well Cane as his captain is entirely expected, its more he said he will keep it under his hat...why? Short of a season ending injury Cane will captain the ABs through to either our exit or victory at the RWC.

            He's keeping it under his hat well into super rugby, didn't he hitch his wagon to Cane very early or before super season in 2020?

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              https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/04/rugby-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-insists-code-switch-won-t-hurt-roger-tuivasa-sheck-s-world-cup-selection-chances.html

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/04/rugby-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-insists-code-switch-won-t-hurt-roger-tuivasa-sheck-s-world-cup-selection-chances.html

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                @taniwharugby

                A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @taniwharugby

                  A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                  Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

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                  @Duluth It certainly did with Charles Piatau

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                    Foster also said this over the weekend

                    “The only caveat we put on that is that if it's a 50-50 call, we're probably more than likely to go with a guy who's going to be here in the future."
                    

                    I think this is the right approach. You don’t want to cut your nose off to spite your face.

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @taniwharugby

                      A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                      Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

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                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                      @taniwharugby

                      A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                      Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                      Which is exactly what Foster said.
                      Actually listening to Foster on Breakdown was interesting to hear him saying about concerns on wingers positioning and moving forward on defence etc, all the things we don't see on tv etc.

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                      • Dan54D Dan54

                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                        @taniwharugby

                        A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                        Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                        Which is exactly what Foster said.
                        Actually listening to Foster on Breakdown was interesting to hear him saying about concerns on wingers positioning and moving forward on defence etc, all the things we don't see on tv etc.

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                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                        @taniwharugby

                        A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                        Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                        Which is exactly what Foster said.
                        Actually listening to Foster on Breakdown was interesting to hear him saying about concerns on wingers positioning and moving forward on defence etc, all the things we don't see on tv etc.

                        Oh we see Caleb. We do.
                        Also saw Jordan hanging back after kicks too.
                        For all we know Foster is as mad at the players as people get at him.

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @taniwharugby

                          A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                          Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                          Which is exactly what Foster said.
                          Actually listening to Foster on Breakdown was interesting to hear him saying about concerns on wingers positioning and moving forward on defence etc, all the things we don't see on tv etc.

                          Oh we see Caleb. We do.
                          Also saw Jordan hanging back after kicks too.
                          For all we know Foster is as mad at the players as people get at him.

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                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @taniwharugby

                          A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                          Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                          Which is exactly what Foster said.
                          Actually listening to Foster on Breakdown was interesting to hear him saying about concerns on wingers positioning and moving forward on defence etc, all the things we don't see on tv etc.

                          Oh we see Caleb. We do.
                          Also saw Jordan hanging back after kicks too.
                          For all we know Foster is as mad at the players as people get at him.

                          Never mentioned Jordan that I heard Crucial, he was talking about Caleb and Lecicester early in season if I remember rightly. I find these things quite interesting anyway, things they look for etc. Hey but thats just probably me lol

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                          • Dan54D Dan54

                            @Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @taniwharugby

                            A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                            Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                            Which is exactly what Foster said.
                            Actually listening to Foster on Breakdown was interesting to hear him saying about concerns on wingers positioning and moving forward on defence etc, all the things we don't see on tv etc.

                            Oh we see Caleb. We do.
                            Also saw Jordan hanging back after kicks too.
                            For all we know Foster is as mad at the players as people get at him.

                            Never mentioned Jordan that I heard Crucial, he was talking about Caleb and Lecicester early in season if I remember rightly. I find these things quite interesting anyway, things they look for etc. Hey but thats just probably me lol

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                            @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @taniwharugby

                            A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                            Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                            Which is exactly what Foster said.
                            Actually listening to Foster on Breakdown was interesting to hear him saying about concerns on wingers positioning and moving forward on defence etc, all the things we don't see on tv etc.

                            Oh we see Caleb. We do.
                            Also saw Jordan hanging back after kicks too.
                            For all we know Foster is as mad at the players as people get at him.

                            Never mentioned Jordan that I heard Crucial, he was talking about Caleb and Lecicester early in season if I remember rightly. I find these things quite interesting anyway, things they look for etc. Hey but thats just probably me lol

                            I hadn’t seen the interview. Was just guessing.
                            Caleb had some horrible moments with positioning on defence and it was considered the he was doing what he was told. (The winger cutting in style). Definitely interesting to hear that wasn’t the coaches.

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @taniwharugby

                              A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                              Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                              Which is exactly what Foster said.
                              Actually listening to Foster on Breakdown was interesting to hear him saying about concerns on wingers positioning and moving forward on defence etc, all the things we don't see on tv etc.

                              Oh we see Caleb. We do.
                              Also saw Jordan hanging back after kicks too.
                              For all we know Foster is as mad at the players as people get at him.

                              Never mentioned Jordan that I heard Crucial, he was talking about Caleb and Lecicester early in season if I remember rightly. I find these things quite interesting anyway, things they look for etc. Hey but thats just probably me lol

                              I hadn’t seen the interview. Was just guessing.
                              Caleb had some horrible moments with positioning on defence and it was considered the he was doing what he was told. (The winger cutting in style). Definitely interesting to hear that wasn’t the coaches.

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                              @Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @taniwharugby

                              A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                              Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                              Which is exactly what Foster said.
                              Actually listening to Foster on Breakdown was interesting to hear him saying about concerns on wingers positioning and moving forward on defence etc, all the things we don't see on tv etc.

                              Oh we see Caleb. We do.
                              Also saw Jordan hanging back after kicks too.
                              For all we know Foster is as mad at the players as people get at him.

                              Never mentioned Jordan that I heard Crucial, he was talking about Caleb and Lecicester early in season if I remember rightly. I find these things quite interesting anyway, things they look for etc. Hey but thats just probably me lol

                              I hadn’t seen the interview. Was just guessing.
                              Caleb had some horrible moments with positioning on defence and it was considered the he was doing what he was told. (The winger cutting in style). Definitely interesting to hear that wasn’t the coaches.

                              Was basically talking about early super from what I recall mate.

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                @taniwharugby

                                A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                                Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

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                                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                                @taniwharugby

                                A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                                Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                                B Barrett,Retalick,Whitelock,Weber,Smith would all fall in to the leaving category.

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                                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @taniwharugby

                                  A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                                  Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                                  B Barrett,Retalick,Whitelock,Weber,Smith would all fall in to the leaving category.

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                                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @taniwharugby

                                  A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                                  Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                                  B Barrett,Retalick,Whitelock,Weber,Smith would all fall in to the leaving category.

                                  Lol they are all in the twilight of their careers, it'd be extremely surprising if any of them wanted to continue after the RWC. If not for the RWC, some may have already stepped down from international footy. That's not even close to the same thing. NZR would have wanted at least another 4 years from Mo'unga given how much had been put into his development.

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                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @taniwharugby

                                    A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                                    Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                                    B Barrett,Retalick,Whitelock,Weber,Smith would all fall in to the leaving category.

                                    Lol they are all in the twilight of their careers, it'd be extremely surprising if any of them wanted to continue after the RWC. If not for the RWC, some may have already stepped down from international footy. That's not even close to the same thing. NZR would have wanted at least another 4 years from Mo'unga given how much had been put into his development.

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                                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @taniwharugby

                                    A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                                    Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                                    B Barrett,Retalick,Whitelock,Weber,Smith would all fall in to the leaving category.

                                    Lol they are all in the twilight of their careers, it'd be extremely surprising if any of them wanted to continue after the RWC. If not for the RWC, some may have already stepped down from international footy. That's not even close to the same thing. NZR would have wanted at least another 4 years from Mo'unga given how much had been put into his development.

                                    That has nothing do with my post lol.

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                                      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @taniwharugby

                                      A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                                      Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                                      B Barrett,Retalick,Whitelock,Weber,Smith would all fall in to the leaving category.

                                      Lol they are all in the twilight of their careers, it'd be extremely surprising if any of them wanted to continue after the RWC. If not for the RWC, some may have already stepped down from international footy. That's not even close to the same thing. NZR would have wanted at least another 4 years from Mo'unga given how much had been put into his development.

                                      That has nothing do with my post lol.

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                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @taniwharugby

                                      A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                                      Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                                      B Barrett,Retalick,Whitelock,Weber,Smith would all fall in to the leaving category.

                                      Lol they are all in the twilight of their careers, it'd be extremely surprising if any of them wanted to continue after the RWC. If not for the RWC, some may have already stepped down from international footy. That's not even close to the same thing. NZR would have wanted at least another 4 years from Mo'unga given how much had been put into his development.

                                      That has nothing do with my post lol.

                                      It very much does. Someone essentially "retiring" isn't the same as someone doing a career move.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @taniwharugby

                                        A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                                        Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                                        B Barrett,Retalick,Whitelock,Weber,Smith would all fall in to the leaving category.

                                        Lol they are all in the twilight of their careers, it'd be extremely surprising if any of them wanted to continue after the RWC. If not for the RWC, some may have already stepped down from international footy. That's not even close to the same thing. NZR would have wanted at least another 4 years from Mo'unga given how much had been put into his development.

                                        That has nothing do with my post lol.

                                        It very much does. Someone essentially "retiring" isn't the same as someone doing a career move.

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @taniwharugby

                                        A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                                        Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                                        B Barrett,Retalick,Whitelock,Weber,Smith would all fall in to the leaving category.

                                        Lol they are all in the twilight of their careers, it'd be extremely surprising if any of them wanted to continue after the RWC. If not for the RWC, some may have already stepped down from international footy. That's not even close to the same thing. NZR would have wanted at least another 4 years from Mo'unga given how much had been put into his development.

                                        That has nothing do with my post lol.

                                        It very much does. Someone essentially "retiring" isn't the same as someone doing a career move.

                                        No as I was only mentioning who else was leaving, not anything about who should be selected or anything like that.

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @taniwharugby

                                          A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                                          Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                                          B Barrett,Retalick,Whitelock,Weber,Smith would all fall in to the leaving category.

                                          Lol they are all in the twilight of their careers, it'd be extremely surprising if any of them wanted to continue after the RWC. If not for the RWC, some may have already stepped down from international footy. That's not even close to the same thing. NZR would have wanted at least another 4 years from Mo'unga given how much had been put into his development.

                                          That has nothing do with my post lol.

                                          It very much does. Someone essentially "retiring" isn't the same as someone doing a career move.

                                          No as I was only mentioning who else was leaving, not anything about who should be selected or anything like that.

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                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @taniwharugby

                                          A coach that doesn't care about anything beyond this year. There's positives and negatives to that

                                          Personally I think any close calls on squad or match day selection should go against RTS, Shannon, Mo'unga & anyone else leaving next year

                                          B Barrett,Retalick,Whitelock,Weber,Smith would all fall in to the leaving category.

                                          Lol they are all in the twilight of their careers, it'd be extremely surprising if any of them wanted to continue after the RWC. If not for the RWC, some may have already stepped down from international footy. That's not even close to the same thing. NZR would have wanted at least another 4 years from Mo'unga given how much had been put into his development.

                                          That has nothing do with my post lol.

                                          It very much does. Someone essentially "retiring" isn't the same as someone doing a career move.

                                          No as I was only mentioning who else was leaving, not anything about who should be selected or anything like that.

                                          In response to a post talking about that very subject.

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