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  • RapidoR Rapido

    It is a strange phenomenon that LHBs are very rare in the Indian system. Where as in most other countries the proportion of LHBs that rise to the top are waaaaaaaaay out of proportion to the numbers in society. Even accounting for those who bat with their 'wrong' hand compared to their bowling and throwing.

    I think I've read/heard that they generally get eaten up in the system that probably has 0.8 billion really good off-spinners.

    So, contrary to other countries, being a LHB is a disadvantage in India. But, why this wouldn't also hold true for Sri Lanka etc, I don't get. As SL could be called the land of the LHB. So, probably a theory that needs more analysis ...

    But, honestly. Try to list Indian LHBs' Ganguly, Gambhir, Kambli .... thats it right? in about 40 years? Unless you are a nerd and remember Wookeri Raman in the 1990 tour here ....

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    @Rapido said in India v Aus:

    It is a strange phenomenon that LHBs are very rare in the Indian system. Where as in most other countries the proportion of LHBs that rise to the top are waaaaaaaaay out of proportion to the numbers in society. Even accounting for those who bat with their 'wrong' hand compared to their bowling and throwing.

    I think I've read/heard that they generally get eaten up in the system that probably has 0.8 billion really good off-spinners.

    So, contrary to other countries, being a LHB is a disadvantage in India. But, why this wouldn't also hold true for Sri Lanka etc, I don't get. As SL could be called the land of the LHB. So, probably a theory that needs more analysis ...

    But, honestly. Try to list Indian LHBs' Ganguly, Gambhir, Kambli .... thats it right? in about 40 years? Unless you are a nerd and remember Wookeri Raman in the 1990 tour here ....

    There's a theory about it relating to hockey for women's cricket here - maybe hockey alongside those 800 million offspinners in India too...

    https://twitter.com/FPayne100/status/1484001687539183619

    And a related conversation further into the thread:

    https://twitter.com/Burrows31Abby/status/1484063595218731011

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    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

      @Rapido im honest not sure, im not even sure it works, just that there was a bit out outcry that we were trying it

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      @Kiwiwomble said in India v Aus:

      @Rapido im honest not sure, im not even sure it works, just that there was a bit out outcry that we were trying it

      Might have been a different team?

      I remember when John Wright brought his Indians out here, we gave them something as green as Queen Jealousy's fiery green gown!

      Wee Davey gone and it's a thing of beauty to send him on his way - cartwheeling stumps!!! 🙂

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @Kiwiwomble said in India v Aus:

        @Rapido im honest not sure, im not even sure it works, just that there was a bit out outcry that we were trying it

        Might have been a different team?

        I remember when John Wright brought his Indians out here, we gave them something as green as Queen Jealousy's fiery green gown!

        Wee Davey gone and it's a thing of beauty to send him on his way - cartwheeling stumps!!! 🙂

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        @Chris-B quite possibly, im definitely not an Almanac, wasn;t so much about who it was against as pointing out pitches that favour the home team are not new and NZ are not above doing it...but this is at best a very extreme example of it

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          Kohli puts Steve Smith down on what was a very tough chance.

          Really good battle this.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            Kohli puts Steve Smith down on what was a very tough chance.

            Really good battle this.

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            @KiwiMurph said in India v Aus:

            Kohli puts Steve Smith down on what was a very tough chance.

            Really good battle this.

            That chance was so quick, just reflex. He did well to get his hand to it

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              Smith and BusChange are exactly the two batters you want to see appear if you suddenly find yourselves 2/2...

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                2 wickets in two balls by the look ... Aus 84/4

                Edit: yep, Jadeja on a hat trick.

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                  and now 173/8. India yet to bat, but looks well below par at the moment.

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                    I read Travis Head wasn't picked for this game because clever reasons. Whatever they were, they somehow look even dumber in hindsight.

                    https://twitter.com/7Cricket/status/1623539326838767622

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                    • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                      I read Travis Head wasn't picked for this game because clever reasons. Whatever they were, they somehow look even dumber in hindsight.

                      https://twitter.com/7Cricket/status/1623539326838767622

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                      @Donsteppa https://twitter.com/Ben_Wisden/status/1623580685725319168

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                        After one over Rohit has surpassed the joint run-making contributions of Waj, Warner, Renshaw, Cummins, Murphy, Lyon and Boland.

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          After one over Rohit has surpassed the joint run-making contributions of Waj, Warner, Renshaw, Cummins, Murphy, Lyon and Boland.

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                          @Chris-B said in India v Aus:

                          After one over Rohit has surpassed the joint run-making contributions of Waj, Warner, Renshaw, Cummins, Murphy, Lyon and Boland.

                          That was an especially generous opening over from a bowler of Pat Cummins quality. Lyon being brought into the attack as I type... thought Boland deserved at least a second over with the new ball, given he settled into his work without a first over of random looseners...

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                            Looking at the Aussie wickets, the plan to doctor the pitch isn't apparent yet.

                            Waj - feet
                            Warner - feet
                            Labuschagne - decision making poor
                            Henshaw - close umpiring decision but half-arsed feet and not playing for spin.
                            Smith - massive gap between bat and bad
                            Carey - reverse sweep. ugh...
                            Cummins - good ball to a tail ender but poor decision
                            Murphy - reaching
                            Hanscomb - trying to smack it 8 down, so got what it deserved.
                            Boland - played the wrong line. No feet. He's a #11

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                              Looking at the Aussie wickets, the plan to doctor the pitch isn't apparent yet.

                              Waj - feet
                              Warner - feet
                              Labuschagne - decision making poor
                              Henshaw - close umpiring decision but half-arsed feet and not playing for spin.
                              Smith - massive gap between bat and bad
                              Carey - reverse sweep. ugh...
                              Cummins - good ball to a tail ender but poor decision
                              Murphy - reaching
                              Hanscomb - trying to smack it 8 down, so got what it deserved.
                              Boland - played the wrong line. No feet. He's a #11

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                              @NTA said in India v Aus:

                              the plan to doctor the pitch isn't apparent yet.

                              2/2 to pace isn't the pitch. Long way back from 177, although it's not massively below par for this ground it appears. Going to be a result!

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                              • nzzpN nzzp

                                @NTA said in India v Aus:

                                the plan to doctor the pitch isn't apparent yet.

                                2/2 to pace isn't the pitch. Long way back from 177, although it's not massively below par for this ground it appears. Going to be a result!

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                                @nzzp said in India v Aus:

                                @NTA said in India v Aus:

                                the plan to doctor the pitch isn't apparent yet.

                                2/2 to pace isn't the pitch. Long way back from 177, although it's not massively below par for this ground it appears. Going to be a result!

                                Only saw highlights bc I don't have Kayo, but the only result is likely a crushing defeat to Australia.

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                                  Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
                                  Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
                                  Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.

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                                    @Donsteppa https://twitter.com/Ben_Wisden/status/1623580685725319168

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                                    @NTA c1287d5d-1ea1-4c24-8978-3d06b4392057-image.png

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                                      Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
                                      Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
                                      Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.

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                                      @Chris said in India v Aus:

                                      Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
                                      Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
                                      Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.

                                      Unusually by their standards, Australia seem to have lost the mind games before they start. Between getting Ashwin's action-doppelganger to bowl to them in the build-up, all the chat about the pitch, and leaving out Travis Head, India must be delighted about how rent-free they seem to be living in the minds of the Baggy Green.

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                                      • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                        @Chris said in India v Aus:

                                        Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
                                        Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
                                        Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.

                                        Unusually by their standards, Australia seem to have lost the mind games before they start. Between getting Ashwin's action-doppelganger to bowl to them in the build-up, all the chat about the pitch, and leaving out Travis Head, India must be delighted about how rent-free they seem to be living in the minds of the Baggy Green.

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                                        @Donsteppa said in India v Aus:

                                        @Chris said in India v Aus:

                                        Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
                                        Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
                                        Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.

                                        Unusually by their standards, Australia seem to have lost the mind games before they start. Between getting Ashwin's action-doppelganger to bowl to them in the build-up, all the chat about the pitch, and leaving out Travis Head, India must be delighted about how rent-free they seem to be living in the minds of the Baggy Green.

                                        Yep Australia seem to have over thought this tour and gone away from what has made them successful,
                                        Australia just need to pull back and play what is in front of them and not look for demons.

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                                        • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                          @Chris said in India v Aus:

                                          Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
                                          Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
                                          Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.

                                          Unusually by their standards, Australia seem to have lost the mind games before they start. Between getting Ashwin's action-doppelganger to bowl to them in the build-up, all the chat about the pitch, and leaving out Travis Head, India must be delighted about how rent-free they seem to be living in the minds of the Baggy Green.

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                                          @Donsteppa said in India v Aus:

                                          @Chris said in India v Aus:

                                          Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
                                          Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
                                          Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.

                                          Unusually by their standards, Australia seem to have lost the mind games before they start. Between getting Ashwin's action-doppelganger to bowl to them in the build-up, all the chat about the pitch, and leaving out Travis Head, India must be delighted about how rent-free they seem to be living in the minds of the Baggy Green.

                                          I blame New Age captaincy.

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