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  • BonesB Bones

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    @Bones said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

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    I think a better stat would be "kicks per minute of possession".

    After all, if your opposition isn't going to kick it back to you, or there are a lot of stoppages, you're unlikely to have the same opportunity to kick.

    I saw this stat before the Semifinal and it was quite low for the Boks BUT also need to keep in mind that, in their pools:

    1. Running over Romania meant less kicking and much more dead time due to tries and conversions.
    2. Smashing Tonga (17 kicks per game mind) meant less kicking
    3. Ireland and Scotland played high-possession rugby, so the Boks have less time or inclination to kick.

    Context.

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    • NTAN NTA

      @Bones said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

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      I think a better stat would be "kicks per minute of possession".

      After all, if your opposition isn't going to kick it back to you, or there are a lot of stoppages, you're unlikely to have the same opportunity to kick.

      I saw this stat before the Semifinal and it was quite low for the Boks BUT also need to keep in mind that, in their pools:

      1. Running over Romania meant less kicking and much more dead time due to tries and conversions.
      2. Smashing Tonga (17 kicks per game mind) meant less kicking
      3. Ireland and Scotland played high-possession rugby, so the Boks have less time or inclination to kick.

      Context.

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      @NTA

      All good points but you’re not denying us our moment of glory. We are top of the table. It’s a matter of record.

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        #1174

        Interestingly if you asked the casual observer who were the most exciting teams to watch in the RWC then many would say NZ, France, Portugal

        And all 3 are in the top 6 of kicking

        Context is everything

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        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

          Interestingly if you asked the casual observer who were the most exciting teams to watch in the RWC then many would say NZ, France, Portugal

          And all 3 are in the top 6 of kicking

          Context is everything

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          #1175

          @MiketheSnow said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

          Interestingly if you asked the casual observer who were the most exciting teams to watch in the RWC then many would say NZ, France, Portugal

          And all 3 are in the top 6 of kicking

          Context is everything

          Have to assume it's what they do between the kicks.

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          • boobooB booboo

            @MiketheSnow said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

            Interestingly if you asked the casual observer who were the most exciting teams to watch in the RWC then many would say NZ, France, Portugal

            And all 3 are in the top 6 of kicking

            Context is everything

            Have to assume it's what they do between the kicks.

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            @booboo you mean score tries 😉

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @booboo you mean score tries 😉

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              @taniwharugby said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

              @booboo you mean score tries 😉

              Except for Portugal

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              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                @taniwharugby said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                @booboo you mean score tries 😉

                Except for Portugal

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                #1178

                @MiketheSnow I expect they were at least trying to though 🙂

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                  Hearing now that Tuilagi broke a bone in his hand v Samoa and had a plate inserted. Then they played him three times in the next three weeks. Re-broke it v Argentina. Club coach Sanderson is not best amused.

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                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                    @Dodge said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                    https://twitter.com/maanomadima/status/1718578252187365686

                    Well this is a perfect fucking summary of what happened in this tournament. Flats is a top journalist / pundit. I hated thinking he was right the first time I saw this, I wanted France or Ireland to go all the way (I never thought we had a chance), but fuck me the simplicity of this message is perfect

                    Hopefully by the next RWC cycle Pougach will be fucking put out to pasture and Flats will be running the show

                    He's brilliant

                    And funny as fuck too

                    If you have a chance to see him live, do it

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                    @MiketheSnow said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                    @Dodge said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                    https://twitter.com/maanomadima/status/1718578252187365686

                    Well this is a perfect fucking summary of what happened in this tournament. Flats is a top journalist / pundit. I hated thinking he was right the first time I saw this, I wanted France or Ireland to go all the way (I never thought we had a chance), but fuck me the simplicity of this message is perfect

                    Hopefully by the next RWC cycle Pougach will be fucking put out to pasture and Flats will be running the show

                    He's brilliant

                    And funny as fuck too

                    If you have a chance to see him live, do it

                    I discovered Flatman during this world cup by listening to his podcast with Tom Shanklin. You're right, he's absolutely brilliant, most talented pundit I've come across in rugby for ages. What a breath of fresh air for a game that is becoming increasingly tedious and frustrating to follow.

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                      #1181

                      Some interesting stats

                      https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/133353901/worrying-signs-as-offloads-and-ballinplay-time-fall-at-rugby-world-cup--and-tackles-soar

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                      • M Machpants

                        Some interesting stats

                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/133353901/worrying-signs-as-offloads-and-ballinplay-time-fall-at-rugby-world-cup--and-tackles-soar

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                        @Machpants said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                        Some interesting stats

                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/133353901/worrying-signs-as-offloads-and-ballinplay-time-fall-at-rugby-world-cup--and-tackles-soar

                        We cross now to WR HQ:
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                        • M Machpants

                          Some interesting stats

                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/133353901/worrying-signs-as-offloads-and-ballinplay-time-fall-at-rugby-world-cup--and-tackles-soar

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                          @Machpants so in 87, they were offloading in two out of every three tackles? Hmmm

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                            @Machpants so in 87, they were offloading in two out of every three tackles? Hmmm

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                            @Bones said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                            @Machpants so in 87, they were offloading in two out of every three tackles? Hmmm

                            Per completed tackle

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                            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                              Interestingly if you asked the casual observer who were the most exciting teams to watch in the RWC then many would say NZ, France, Portugal

                              And all 3 are in the top 6 of kicking

                              Context is everything

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                              #1185

                              @MiketheSnow said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                              Interestingly if you asked the casual observer who were the most exciting teams to watch in the RWC then many would say NZ, France, Portugal

                              And all 3 are in the top 6 of kicking

                              > Context is everything

                              Except on the Fern!

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                                #1186

                                One of those "which thread do I put this on?" posts so feel free to move.

                                The boss of Spanish Rugby announced in his Christmas message that they are bidding to host the 2035 Men's Rugby World Cup.

                                https://twitter.com/ferugby/status/2004128593723773285?s=46

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                                  One of those "which thread do I put this on?" posts so feel free to move.

                                  The boss of Spanish Rugby announced in his Christmas message that they are bidding to host the 2035 Men's Rugby World Cup.

                                  https://twitter.com/ferugby/status/2004128593723773285?s=46

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                                  @sparky said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                                  One of those "which thread do I put this on?" posts so feel free to move.

                                  The boss of Spanish Rugby announced in his Christmas message that they are bidding to host the 2035 Men's Rugby World Cup.

                                  https://twitter.com/ferugby/status/2004128593723773285?s=46

                                  I live in Spain so I endorse this plan wholeheartedly.

                                  Hasta La Victoria Siempre.

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                                    England to be based in Tenerife.

                                    Edit: or Russia.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      England to be based in Tenerife.

                                      Edit: or Russia.

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                                      @Bones said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                                      England to be based in Tenerife.

                                      Edit: or Russia.

                                      The English might like Magaluf or Benidorm?

                                      They could treat it as an Ashes tour.

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                                        Argentina are also interested in hosting the 2035 Rugby World Cup and there are rumours of a Qatar/UAE bid.

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                                          Argentina are also interested in hosting the 2035 Rugby World Cup and there are rumours of a Qatar/UAE bid.

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                                          @sparky said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                                          Qatar/UAE bid

                                          Stop the bidding process right there

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