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  • BonesB Bones

    @sparky didn't I see the other day that they're doing the 20 minute red card now, unless it's deemed deliberate foul play?

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    @Bones said in Rugby World Cup news:

    @sparky didn't I see the other day that they're doing the 20 minute red card now, unless it's deemed deliberate foul play?

    No. They are only doing the yellow first then bunker has ten minutes to confirm yellow or upgrade to red

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    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

      @sparky said in Rugby World Cup news:

      @Billy-Tell I remember you using the same ‘joke’ on the Laporte thread.

      Nothing’s happened yet, but I can see huge controversy ahead if a side effectively gets knocked out of the tournament by a dubious Red Card from the bunker to a key player early in a game.

      Cmon man. You’re spouting conspiracy theory nonsense!

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      @Billy-Tell I’m uneasy about an unprecedented reduction of accountability and transparency around the issuing of Red Cards. That is hardly the same as proclaiming the moon landings were faked.

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      • chimoausC chimoaus

        Apologies if this has already been posted but a good predictor tool here so you can see how the draw might play out.
        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/world-cup-rugby-2023-fixtures-england-telegraph-predictor/

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        @chimoaus

        I thought the Most Predicated Winners was interesting...

        Screenshot 2023-08-10 at 8.27.22 AM.png

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        • sparkyS sparky

          @Billy-Tell I’m uneasy about an unprecedented reduction of accountability and transparency around the issuing of Red Cards. That is hardly the same as proclaiming the moon landings were faked.

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          @sparky said in Rugby World Cup news:

          @Billy-Tell I’m uneasy about an unprecedented reduction of accountability and transparency around the issuing of Red Cards. That is hardly the same as proclaiming the moon landings were faked.

          The new system is miles better. Takes the pressure off the ref and the home crowd out of the equation. I don’t think Italian mafia betting gangs will be involved. Rugby is small fry.

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          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

            @sparky said in Rugby World Cup news:

            @Billy-Tell I’m uneasy about an unprecedented reduction of accountability and transparency around the issuing of Red Cards. That is hardly the same as proclaiming the moon landings were faked.

            The new system is miles better. Takes the pressure off the ref and the home crowd out of the equation. I don’t think Italian mafia betting gangs will be involved. Rugby is small fry.

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            @Billy-Tell said in Rugby World Cup news:

            @sparky said in Rugby World Cup news:

            @Billy-Tell I’m uneasy about an unprecedented reduction of accountability and transparency around the issuing of Red Cards. That is hardly the same as proclaiming the moon landings were faked.

            The new system is miles better. Takes the pressure off the ref and the home crowd out of the equation. I don’t think Italian mafia betting gangs will be involved. Rugby is small fry.

            Rob Howley says hi

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              Michael Hooper to be left out

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              • NTAN NTA

                Michael Hooper to be left out

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                @NTA said in Rugby World Cup news:

                Michael Hooper to be left out

                Is that a real left out or a Saffa left out where some poor schmuck is going to get "injured" in training once the tournament starts?

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                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                  @Billy-Tell said in Rugby World Cup news:

                  @sparky said in Rugby World Cup news:

                  @Billy-Tell I’m uneasy about an unprecedented reduction of accountability and transparency around the issuing of Red Cards. That is hardly the same as proclaiming the moon landings were faked.

                  The new system is miles better. Takes the pressure off the ref and the home crowd out of the equation. I don’t think Italian mafia betting gangs will be involved. Rugby is small fry.

                  Rob Howley says hi

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                  @MiketheSnow said in Rugby World Cup news:

                  @Billy-Tell said in Rugby World Cup news:

                  @sparky said in Rugby World Cup news:

                  @Billy-Tell I’m uneasy about an unprecedented reduction of accountability and transparency around the issuing of Red Cards. That is hardly the same as proclaiming the moon landings were faked.

                  The new system is miles better. Takes the pressure off the ref and the home crowd out of the equation. I don’t think Italian mafia betting gangs will be involved. Rugby is small fry.

                  Rob Howley says hi

                  A guy who placed his own bets, he wasn't in any syndicate

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                  • M Machpants

                    @Bones said in Rugby World Cup news:

                    @sparky didn't I see the other day that they're doing the 20 minute red card now, unless it's deemed deliberate foul play?

                    No. They are only doing the yellow first then bunker has ten minutes to confirm yellow or upgrade to red

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                    @Machpants said in Rugby World Cup news:

                    @Bones said in Rugby World Cup news:

                    @sparky didn't I see the other day that they're doing the 20 minute red card now, unless it's deemed deliberate foul play?

                    No. They are only doing the yellow first then bunker has ten minutes to confirm yellow or upgrade to red

                    I don't know how ruck still exist, but I guess I'm part of the problem.

                    https://www.ruck.co.uk/orange-card-world-rugby-confirm-five-new-laws-for-2023-rugby-world-cup/3/

                    Screenshot_2023-08-10-05-35-43-79_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @Machpants said in Rugby World Cup news:

                      @Bones said in Rugby World Cup news:

                      @sparky didn't I see the other day that they're doing the 20 minute red card now, unless it's deemed deliberate foul play?

                      No. They are only doing the yellow first then bunker has ten minutes to confirm yellow or upgrade to red

                      I don't know how ruck still exist, but I guess I'm part of the problem.

                      https://www.ruck.co.uk/orange-card-world-rugby-confirm-five-new-laws-for-2023-rugby-world-cup/3/

                      Screenshot_2023-08-10-05-35-43-79_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

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                      @Bones said in Rugby World Cup news:

                      @Machpants said in Rugby World Cup news:

                      @Bones said in Rugby World Cup news:

                      @sparky didn't I see the other day that they're doing the 20 minute red card now, unless it's deemed deliberate foul play?

                      No. They are only doing the yellow first then bunker has ten minutes to confirm yellow or upgrade to red

                      I don't know how ruck still exist, but I guess I'm part of the problem.

                      https://www.ruck.co.uk/orange-card-world-rugby-confirm-five-new-laws-for-2023-rugby-world-cup/3/

                      Screenshot_2023-08-10-05-35-43-79_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

                      I think they were basing that off a rumour "contrary to recent reports..."

                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/20-minute-red-card-will-not-feature-at-the-rugby-world-cup/

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                        https://www.balls.ie/rugby/ireland-italy-tactic-566634

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                          how is that even remotely legal? i would love to see the loophole where this ignores the offside rule, the obstruction rule, and the taking people out past the ball rule.

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            how is that even remotely legal? i would love to see the loophole where this ignores the offside rule, the obstruction rule, and the taking people out past the ball rule.

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                            @mariner4life It's actually linked to something that I mentioned a while ago that is becoming more prominent - tacklers getting tackled (removed) off the ball carrier, which is being completely ignored by refs but I can't see how it would be legal.

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                              this is taking it way past that. this is allowing a guy to come from anywhere and "tackle" someone trying to form a ruck. And it's not exactly subtle.

                              As the article says, they surely got a ruling, so i would love to hear that explanation

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                                Fucking hell, I don't know what that is, but it's not rugby.

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                                  well I'm sure if McCaw had done it, they'd be changing the rules to stop him, agree though, technically legal maybe, just looks all kinds of wrong.

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    this is taking it way past that. this is allowing a guy to come from anywhere and "tackle" someone trying to form a ruck. And it's not exactly subtle.

                                    As the article says, they surely got a ruling, so i would love to hear that explanation

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                                    @mariner4life if you're ignoring the scenario I mentioned, then it's the logical next step to ignore what Ireland are doing.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @mariner4life if you're ignoring the scenario I mentioned, then it's the logical next step to ignore what Ireland are doing.

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                                      @Bones said in Rugby World Cup news:

                                      @mariner4life if you're ignoring the scenario I mentioned, then it's the logical next step to ignore what Ireland are doing.

                                      i get materiality is a thing

                                      but that looks pretty fucking material

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        https://www.balls.ie/rugby/ireland-italy-tactic-566634

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                                        @Bones said in Rugby World Cup news:

                                        https://www.balls.ie/rugby/ireland-italy-tactic-566634

                                        I really can't see how that's legal.

                                        This should be the subject of one of those official law clarifications that national unions can ask from World Rugby. Do it before the RWC; don't wait until it happens in a RWC match.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @Bones said in Rugby World Cup news:

                                          https://www.balls.ie/rugby/ireland-italy-tactic-566634

                                          I really can't see how that's legal.

                                          This should be the subject of one of those official law clarifications that national unions can ask from World Rugby. Do it before the RWC; don't wait until it happens in a RWC match.

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                                          @Stargazer Hell no! Do it the week you play Ireland so they have to train for another way and have their plans thrown into turmoil if it's found to be illegal.

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