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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    how is that even remotely legal? i would love to see the loophole where this ignores the offside rule, the obstruction rule, and the taking people out past the ball rule.

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      how is that even remotely legal? i would love to see the loophole where this ignores the offside rule, the obstruction rule, and the taking people out past the ball rule.

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      #218

      @mariner4life It's actually linked to something that I mentioned a while ago that is becoming more prominent - tacklers getting tackled (removed) off the ball carrier, which is being completely ignored by refs but I can't see how it would be legal.

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      • mariner4lifeM Offline
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        #219

        this is taking it way past that. this is allowing a guy to come from anywhere and "tackle" someone trying to form a ruck. And it's not exactly subtle.

        As the article says, they surely got a ruling, so i would love to hear that explanation

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        • gt12G Offline
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          Fucking hell, I don't know what that is, but it's not rugby.

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          • taniwharugbyT Offline
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            #221

            well I'm sure if McCaw had done it, they'd be changing the rules to stop him, agree though, technically legal maybe, just looks all kinds of wrong.

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              this is taking it way past that. this is allowing a guy to come from anywhere and "tackle" someone trying to form a ruck. And it's not exactly subtle.

              As the article says, they surely got a ruling, so i would love to hear that explanation

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              #222

              @mariner4life if you're ignoring the scenario I mentioned, then it's the logical next step to ignore what Ireland are doing.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @mariner4life if you're ignoring the scenario I mentioned, then it's the logical next step to ignore what Ireland are doing.

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                #223

                @Bones said in Rugby World Cup news:

                @mariner4life if you're ignoring the scenario I mentioned, then it's the logical next step to ignore what Ireland are doing.

                i get materiality is a thing

                but that looks pretty fucking material

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                • BonesB Bones

                  https://www.balls.ie/rugby/ireland-italy-tactic-566634

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                  #224

                  @Bones said in Rugby World Cup news:

                  https://www.balls.ie/rugby/ireland-italy-tactic-566634

                  I really can't see how that's legal.

                  This should be the subject of one of those official law clarifications that national unions can ask from World Rugby. Do it before the RWC; don't wait until it happens in a RWC match.

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    @Bones said in Rugby World Cup news:

                    https://www.balls.ie/rugby/ireland-italy-tactic-566634

                    I really can't see how that's legal.

                    This should be the subject of one of those official law clarifications that national unions can ask from World Rugby. Do it before the RWC; don't wait until it happens in a RWC match.

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                    #225

                    @Stargazer Hell no! Do it the week you play Ireland so they have to train for another way and have their plans thrown into turmoil if it's found to be illegal.

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                    • mariner4lifeM Offline
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                      #226

                      better yet, get the ref on-side without involving them so they get penalised off the park in the first half, and then don't have a ruck plan any more

                      they'll just fall back on teh gang tackle and collapse all over the ruck they've been using for 4 years

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                      • boobooB Do not disturb
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                        #227

                        Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

                        Or just a gate?

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                        • boobooB booboo

                          Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

                          Or just a gate?

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                          @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

                          Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

                          Or just a gate?

                          Offside line.

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

                            Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

                            Or just a gate?

                            Offside line.

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                            @antipodean said in Rugby World Cup news:

                            @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

                            Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

                            Or just a gate?

                            Offside line.

                            I don't understand why they aren't in breach of 14.8c

                            8. Other players must :
                            a. Remain on their feet and release the ball and the ball-carrier immediately.
                            b. Remain on their feet when they play the ball.
                            c. Arrive at the tackle from the direction of their own goal line before playing the ball.
                            d. Not play the ball or attempt to tackle an opponent while on the ground
                            near the tackle.
                            

                            I guess the purpose is to avoid an offside line being formed to get around law 14.10? I think it's very flimsy but if they take out the player before they are over the ball, there may not be an offside line?

                            Offside lines are created at a tackle when at least one player is on their feet and over the ball, which is on the ground. Each team ís offside line runs parallel to the goal line through the hindmost point of any player in the tackle or on their feet over the ball. If that point is on or behind the goal line, the offside line for that team is the goal line.
                            
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                            • antipodeanA Offline
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                              As most of us have pointed out, you can't go tackling people without the ball. You can't go tackling people who aren't part of the ruck.

                              I see no way under the laws of the game it can be legal.

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                              • canefanC Away
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                                That is some bullshit right there. I hope someone in power stamps that out before the tournament starts

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                                • sparkyS Offline
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                                  The All Blacks are now favourites with UK bookmakers.

                                  https://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/rugby-world-cup/winner

                                  Bring it on!

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                                  • MajorStokesM Offline
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                                    Those Ireland odds are unbelievable. What am I missing, they took France apart across the paddock 6 months ago.

                                    NZ odds don't surprise me. Lots of Pommy rugby fans at work and all of them are talking up the improvement in the AB's.

                                    Those odds tell me I can put 100 on france & 100 on Ireland and both will return me more than 200 (I'm not a big better so I could be wrong). If this is indeed the case, that's a sure fire return in my world ....

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                                    • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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                                      I kind of liked the idea of not being favourites for a change,

                                      Well there goes that .

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                                      • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                                        Those Ireland odds are unbelievable. What am I missing, they took France apart across the paddock 6 months ago.

                                        NZ odds don't surprise me. Lots of Pommy rugby fans at work and all of them are talking up the improvement in the AB's.

                                        Those odds tell me I can put 100 on france & 100 on Ireland and both will return me more than 200 (I'm not a big better so I could be wrong). If this is indeed the case, that's a sure fire return in my world ....

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                                        #235

                                        @MajorRage said in Rugby World Cup news:

                                        Those Ireland odds are unbelievable. What am I missing

                                        Never having won a knock out RWC game and having to face either the home team France or the ABs in a quarter might have something to do with it......

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                                        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                          I kind of liked the idea of not being favourites for a change,

                                          Well there goes that .

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                                          @kiwiinmelb said in Rugby World Cup news:

                                          I kind of liked the idea of not being favourites for a change,

                                          Well there goes that .

                                          It's a scam. In their minds the Irish and French know they are tournament favourites. This trying to claim underdog status is feeble and lame

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