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  • BonesB Bones

    https://www.balls.ie/rugby/ireland-italy-tactic-566634

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    @Bones said in Rugby World Cup news:

    https://www.balls.ie/rugby/ireland-italy-tactic-566634

    I really can't see how that's legal.

    This should be the subject of one of those official law clarifications that national unions can ask from World Rugby. Do it before the RWC; don't wait until it happens in a RWC match.

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      @Bones said in Rugby World Cup news:

      https://www.balls.ie/rugby/ireland-italy-tactic-566634

      I really can't see how that's legal.

      This should be the subject of one of those official law clarifications that national unions can ask from World Rugby. Do it before the RWC; don't wait until it happens in a RWC match.

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      @Stargazer Hell no! Do it the week you play Ireland so they have to train for another way and have their plans thrown into turmoil if it's found to be illegal.

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        better yet, get the ref on-side without involving them so they get penalised off the park in the first half, and then don't have a ruck plan any more

        they'll just fall back on teh gang tackle and collapse all over the ruck they've been using for 4 years

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          Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

          Or just a gate?

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          • boobooB booboo

            Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

            Or just a gate?

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            @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

            Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

            Or just a gate?

            Offside line.

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

              Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

              Or just a gate?

              Offside line.

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              @antipodean said in Rugby World Cup news:

              @booboo said in Rugby World Cup news:

              Doesn't a tackle create an offside line?

              Or just a gate?

              Offside line.

              I don't understand why they aren't in breach of 14.8c

              8. Other players must :
              a. Remain on their feet and release the ball and the ball-carrier immediately.
              b. Remain on their feet when they play the ball.
              c. Arrive at the tackle from the direction of their own goal line before playing the ball.
              d. Not play the ball or attempt to tackle an opponent while on the ground
              near the tackle.
              

              I guess the purpose is to avoid an offside line being formed to get around law 14.10? I think it's very flimsy but if they take out the player before they are over the ball, there may not be an offside line?

              Offside lines are created at a tackle when at least one player is on their feet and over the ball, which is on the ground. Each team ís offside line runs parallel to the goal line through the hindmost point of any player in the tackle or on their feet over the ball. If that point is on or behind the goal line, the offside line for that team is the goal line.
              
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                As most of us have pointed out, you can't go tackling people without the ball. You can't go tackling people who aren't part of the ruck.

                I see no way under the laws of the game it can be legal.

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                  That is some bullshit right there. I hope someone in power stamps that out before the tournament starts

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                  • sparkyS Offline
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                    The All Blacks are now favourites with UK bookmakers.

                    https://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/rugby-world-cup/winner

                    Bring it on!

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                      Those Ireland odds are unbelievable. What am I missing, they took France apart across the paddock 6 months ago.

                      NZ odds don't surprise me. Lots of Pommy rugby fans at work and all of them are talking up the improvement in the AB's.

                      Those odds tell me I can put 100 on france & 100 on Ireland and both will return me more than 200 (I'm not a big better so I could be wrong). If this is indeed the case, that's a sure fire return in my world ....

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                        I kind of liked the idea of not being favourites for a change,

                        Well there goes that .

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                        • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                          Those Ireland odds are unbelievable. What am I missing, they took France apart across the paddock 6 months ago.

                          NZ odds don't surprise me. Lots of Pommy rugby fans at work and all of them are talking up the improvement in the AB's.

                          Those odds tell me I can put 100 on france & 100 on Ireland and both will return me more than 200 (I'm not a big better so I could be wrong). If this is indeed the case, that's a sure fire return in my world ....

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                          @MajorRage said in Rugby World Cup news:

                          Those Ireland odds are unbelievable. What am I missing

                          Never having won a knock out RWC game and having to face either the home team France or the ABs in a quarter might have something to do with it......

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                          • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                            I kind of liked the idea of not being favourites for a change,

                            Well there goes that .

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                            @kiwiinmelb said in Rugby World Cup news:

                            I kind of liked the idea of not being favourites for a change,

                            Well there goes that .

                            It's a scam. In their minds the Irish and French know they are tournament favourites. This trying to claim underdog status is feeble and lame

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @MajorRage said in Rugby World Cup news:

                              Those Ireland odds are unbelievable. What am I missing

                              Never having won a knock out RWC game and having to face either the home team France or the ABs in a quarter might have something to do with it......

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                              @KiwiMurph said in Rugby World Cup news:

                              @MajorRage said in Rugby World Cup news:

                              Those Ireland odds are unbelievable. What am I missing

                              Never having won a knock out RWC game and having to face either the home team France or the ABs in a quarter might have something to do with it......

                              Does it matter who you face in a QF? NZ/France are going to have equally tricky opposition and it hasn't affected their odds.

                              Certainly got a point on the lack of knockout victory, but 5/1 compared to NZ France odds just seems wrong to me.

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                              • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                                @KiwiMurph said in Rugby World Cup news:

                                @MajorRage said in Rugby World Cup news:

                                Those Ireland odds are unbelievable. What am I missing

                                Never having won a knock out RWC game and having to face either the home team France or the ABs in a quarter might have something to do with it......

                                Does it matter who you face in a QF? NZ/France are going to have equally tricky opposition and it hasn't affected their odds.

                                Certainly got a point on the lack of knockout victory, but 5/1 compared to NZ France odds just seems wrong to me.

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                                @MajorRage said in Rugby World Cup news:

                                @KiwiMurph said in Rugby World Cup news:

                                @MajorRage said in Rugby World Cup news:

                                Those Ireland odds are unbelievable. What am I missing

                                Never having won a knock out RWC game and having to face either the home team France or the ABs in a quarter might have something to do with it......

                                Does it matter who you face in a QF? NZ/France are going to have equally tricky opposition and it hasn't affected their odds.

                                Certainly got a point on the lack of knockout victory, but 5/1 compared to NZ France odds just seems wrong to me.

                                Kinda related, but have to mention my only issue I have with winning or losing v France is the nagging fear we could lose v Italy.

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                                • boobooB booboo

                                  @MajorRage said in Rugby World Cup news:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Rugby World Cup news:

                                  @MajorRage said in Rugby World Cup news:

                                  Those Ireland odds are unbelievable. What am I missing

                                  Never having won a knock out RWC game and having to face either the home team France or the ABs in a quarter might have something to do with it......

                                  Does it matter who you face in a QF? NZ/France are going to have equally tricky opposition and it hasn't affected their odds.

                                  Certainly got a point on the lack of knockout victory, but 5/1 compared to NZ France odds just seems wrong to me.

                                  Kinda related, but have to mention my only issue I have with winning or losing v France is the nagging fear we could lose v Italy.

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                                  @booboo Are you a doomer now? That will never happen.

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    @booboo Are you a doomer now? That will never happen.

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                                    @Tim I'd rather just not have to worry about the extreme outside possibility.

                                    Just beat France .

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                                      Well we did draw 0-0 with Italy at the last RWC......

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                                      • BonesB Online
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                                        Ireland already distracted, lording it up in Portugal with the rich and famous.

                                        Cunch of bunts.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          Ireland already distracted, lording it up in Portugal with the rich and famous.

                                          Cunch of bunts.

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                                          @Bones We’ve got Roy Keane to thank for Wayne Smith never taking the England job.

                                          https://www.balls.ie/rugby/roy-keane-wayne-smith-all-blacks-england-500847

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