It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.
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How many assistant coaches does Robertson want? If that NZH article is correct, MacDonald is sort of redundant when you also have Holland in charge of the attack.
@Bovidae said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
How many assistant coaches does Robertson want? If that NZH article is correct, MacDonald is sort of redundant when you also have Holland in charge of the attack.
If this helps, I did some digging for you - a complete history of Razor's assistant configuration.
NZ U20's (less relevant as limited resources for a full coaching set-up.)
2015: MacDonald, Umaga.
2016: Philpott, Rickards.
Canterbury
2013-2014: Ryan, Holland, Hansen.
2015-2016: Ryan, Haggard, Maddock.
Crusaders
2017: Ryan, MacDonald, Mooar.
2018-2019: Ryan, O'Gara, Goodman, Mooar.
2020: Ryan, Hansen, Goodman, Jones.
2021-2022: Ryan, Hansen, Goodman, Ellison.
2023: Perrin, Hansen, Marshall, Ellison.
Seems like a forwards/set-piece coach, 2-3 attack/backs coaches, & defense coach is his preferred structure.
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@taniwharugby said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
For New Zealand Rugby, the awkward ramifications of signing off that team would involve telling All Blacks assistants Scott McLeod (defence) and Greg Feek (scrum) they will soon be on the outer as part of a widespread cleanout
Awkward ramifications? Must have been such an huge surprise to them all...hope none of them read that article.
Weird take by NZH
@canefan said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@taniwharugby said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
For New Zealand Rugby, the awkward ramifications of signing off that team would involve telling All Blacks assistants Scott McLeod (defence) and Greg Feek (scrum) they will soon be on the outer as part of a widespread cleanout
Awkward ramifications? Must have been such an huge surprise to them all...hope none of them read that article.
Weird take by NZH
But you repeat yourself
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Robertson is understood to have settled on, and now informed, his preferred All Blacks coaching team. That includes incumbent forwards coach Jason Ryan leading the scrum/lineout/breakdown, Blues head coach Leon MacDonald taking charge of attacking shape, highly-regarded Crusaders assistant Scott Hansen overseeing defence and Holland designing strike plays.
For New Zealand Rugby, the awkward ramifications of signing off that team would involve telling All Blacks assistants Scott McLeod (defence) and Greg Feek (scrum) they will soon be on the outer as part of a widespread cleanout, with head coach Ian Foster and Joe Schimdt already signposting their intent to move on after the World Cup.
Paywalled
@Machpants quoted NZH in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
Blues head coach Leon MacDonald taking charge of attacking shape
Well, I guess we're all going to be thrilled with the difference in Beauden no longer cross field kicking to try and stretch the defence...
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@Winger said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris no switch he's 7 and captain
I thought it was going to be that.
Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.
Yeah it is,sends a good message to the players.
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Winger said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris no switch he's 7 and captain
I thought it was going to be that.
Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.
Yeah it is,sends a good message to the players.
Who would be the option though?
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@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Winger said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris no switch he's 7 and captain
I thought it was going to be that.
Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.
Yeah it is,sends a good message to the players.
Who would be the option though?
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@booboo said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
Who would be the option though?
Scott Barrett is who I thought he'd choose.
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@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Winger said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris no switch he's 7 and captain
I thought it was going to be that.
Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.
Yeah it is,sends a good message to the players.
Who would be the option though?
@booboo said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Winger said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris no switch he's 7 and captain
I thought it was going to be that.
Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.
Yeah it is,sends a good message to the players.
Who would be the option though?
Scott Barrett,Ardie Savea or stick with Cane could be other options.
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@booboo said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Winger said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris no switch he's 7 and captain
I thought it was going to be that.
Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.
Yeah it is,sends a good message to the players.
Who would be the option though?
Scott Barrett,Ardie Savea or stick with Cane could be other options.
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@booboo said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Winger said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris no switch he's 7 and captain
I thought it was going to be that.
Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.
Yeah it is,sends a good message to the players.
Who would be the option though?
Scott Barrett,Ardie Savea or stick with Cane could be other options.
Wasn't sure his plans post RWC.
Cane (and am massive fanboi) no guarantee to be No.1 No.7 THIS year.
See above re SB.
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@booboo said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
Wouldn't be averse, but I do get better vibes with Papalii.
I'm not sure Papalii is the best option myself. He's not the most vocal on-field captain, and you need someone who is always in the ear of the ref, or at the very least, asks the right questions when required.
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@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@booboo said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Winger said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris no switch he's 7 and captain
I thought it was going to be that.
Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.
Yeah it is,sends a good message to the players.
Who would be the option though?
Scott Barrett,Ardie Savea or stick with Cane could be other options.
Wasn't sure his plans post RWC.
Cane (and am massive fanboi) no guarantee to be No.1 No.7 THIS year.
See above re SB.
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@booboo said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
Wouldn't be averse, but I do get better vibes with Papalii.
I'm not sure Papalii is the best option myself. He's not the most vocal on-field captain, and you need someone who is always in the ear of the ref, or at the very least, asks the right questions when required.
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@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Winger said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris no switch he's 7 and captain
I thought it was going to be that.
Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.
Yeah it is,sends a good message to the players.
Who would be the option though?
@booboo said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Winger said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris no switch he's 7 and captain
I thought it was going to be that.
Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.
Yeah it is,sends a good message to the players.
Who would be the option though?
Someone who's guaranteed to play 80 minutes, I'd love to see Jordie AB's captain at 12, he's a massive leader for the Hurricanes, very tactically smart player and would relish that extra responsibility I reckon.
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@booboo said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Winger said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris no switch he's 7 and captain
I thought it was going to be that.
Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.
Yeah it is,sends a good message to the players.
Who would be the option though?
Someone who's guaranteed to play 80 minutes, I'd love to see Jordie AB's captain at 12, he's a massive leader for the Hurricanes, very tactically smart player and would relish that extra responsibility I reckon.
@kiwi_expat said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@booboo said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Winger said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris no switch he's 7 and captain
I thought it was going to be that.
Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.
Yeah it is,sends a good message to the players.
Who would be the option though?
Someone who's guaranteed to play 80 minutes, I'd love to see Jordie AB's captain at 12, he's a massive leader for the Hurricanes, very tactically smart player and would relish that extra responsibility I reckon.
I think I want it to be a forward. So the person ideally has to be a nailed on first choice starter. The only one I can think of is Barrett. The other Barrett
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@kiwi_expat said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@booboo said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Winger said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@Chris no switch he's 7 and captain
I thought it was going to be that.
Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.
Yeah it is,sends a good message to the players.
Who would be the option though?
Someone who's guaranteed to play 80 minutes, I'd love to see Jordie AB's captain at 12, he's a massive leader for the Hurricanes, very tactically smart player and would relish that extra responsibility I reckon.
I think I want it to be a forward. So the person ideally has to be a nailed on first choice starter. The only one I can think of is Barrett. The other Barrett
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@Darren said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
I'd love to see Dane Coles, just for the comedy value.
The ABs first ever “runs the water” captain….
I doubt he starts a test this year.
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@canefan if im honest im still nervous about barrett getting a card what what a bad look that is for a captain, he might have grown out of that though im not sure
@Kiwiwomble said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@canefan if im honest im still nervous about barrett getting a card what what a bad look that is for a captain, he might have grown out of that though im not sure
He seems to have calmed down a bit. With Ardie heading away, not sure who else could command the respect from the rest of the team
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@Kiwiwomble said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@canefan if im honest im still nervous about barrett getting a card what what a bad look that is for a captain, he might have grown out of that though im not sure
He seems to have calmed down a bit. With Ardie heading away, not sure who else could command the respect from the rest of the team
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@canefan the list of players that command that kind of respect seems to be dwindling, everyone seems to some question marks
@Kiwiwomble said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:
@canefan the list of players that command that kind of respect seems to be dwindling, everyone seems to some question marks
At least Scooter appears to command his own spot in the team now
