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It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.

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    https://twitter.com/crusadersrugby/status/1651058725317230596

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    https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1651059281570172928

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    Winningest Blues coach of all time? Surely that was Henry?

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      Winningest Blues coach of all time? Surely that was Henry?

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      @Rancid-Schnitzel I'm assuming they are basing that on total wins rather than win %

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        Cantablacks.
        Hope it works better than the last time this term was used.

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          Cantablacks.
          Hope it works better than the last time this term was used.

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          @Crucial How many of them are actually from Canterbury?

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            @Crucial How many of them are actually from Canterbury?

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            @Stargazer b 1 more added after world cup

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              Cantablacks.
              Hope it works better than the last time this term was used.

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              @Crucial looks that way but nzr have conditions in place

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                Cantablacks.
                Hope it works better than the last time this term was used.

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                @Crucial said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                Cantablacks.

                We'll have to wait for the first team. Who will be the 2024 version of Sam Broomhall? 😉

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                  @Crucial looks that way but nzr have conditions in place

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                  @george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                  @Crucial looks that way but nzr have conditions in place

                  Well the NZR can not put a quota in for who the new coaches pick and from which team.
                  So Not sure about Conditions by NZR.

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                    Cantablacks would be an improvement on what we have now wouldn't they

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      @Crucial How many of them are actually from Canterbury?

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                      @Stargazer said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                      @Crucial How many of them are actually from Canterbury?

                      Don't know, don't care.

                      This coaching group however has been pulled from coaches and assistants all with links to the Crusaders and Canterbury. I expect that quite naturally there will be advantages to players that have also been part of those systems and a perception of bias from others which will become a deafening noise should the team not perform and other player options are overlooked.

                      Not saying that it will happen. I hope it doesn't. Doesn't mean I'm painting Razor as anything either.
                      Just hope that we don't start seeing losses on the backs of selections akin to the days of Hammet, Robinson, Ralph, Gibson and Razor.
                      I think there was one team with 13/15 Cantabs that came pretty close to being beaten by Ireland in Carisbrook.

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        Cantablacks.
                        Hope it works better than the last time this term was used.

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                        @Crucial said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                        Cantablacks.
                        Hope it works better than the last time this term was used.

                        Well, that didn't take long.

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                          @Stargazer said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                          @Crucial How many of them are actually from Canterbury?

                          Don't know, don't care.

                          This coaching group however has been pulled from coaches and assistants all with links to the Crusaders and Canterbury. I expect that quite naturally there will be advantages to players that have also been part of those systems and a perception of bias from others which will become a deafening noise should the team not perform and other player options are overlooked.

                          Not saying that it will happen. I hope it doesn't. Doesn't mean I'm painting Razor as anything either.
                          Just hope that we don't start seeing losses on the backs of selections akin to the days of Hammet, Robinson, Ralph, Gibson and Razor.
                          I think there was one team with 13/15 Cantabs that came pretty close to being beaten by Ireland in Carisbrook.

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                          @Crucial said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                          @Stargazer said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                          @Crucial How many of them are actually from Canterbury?

                          Don't know, don't care.

                          This coaching group however has been pulled from coaches and assistants all with links to the Crusaders and Canterbury. I expect that quite naturally there will be advantages to players that have also been part of those systems and a perception of bias from others which will become a deafening noise should the team not perform and other player options are overlooked.

                          Not saying that it will happen. I hope it doesn't. Doesn't mean I'm painting Razor as anything either.
                          Just hope that we don't start seeing losses on the backs of selections akin to the days of Hammet, Robinson, Ralph, Gibson and Razor.
                          I think there was one team with 13/15 Cantabs that came pretty close to being beaten by Ireland in Carisbrook.

                          Will not McDonald have strong opinions on Blues players and Holland on Canes players, there is balance there.
                          Razor is a pretty smart coach he will want the best player's that fit his game plan and the Culture he wants to create.
                          There will be some players from Fosters time as coach not selected I am sure as they will not fit the Criteria Robertson and the coaches want,Always happens when a new coaching structure takes over,some elements gone and new ones added.

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                            @Crucial said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                            @Stargazer said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                            @Crucial How many of them are actually from Canterbury?

                            Don't know, don't care.

                            This coaching group however has been pulled from coaches and assistants all with links to the Crusaders and Canterbury. I expect that quite naturally there will be advantages to players that have also been part of those systems and a perception of bias from others which will become a deafening noise should the team not perform and other player options are overlooked.

                            Not saying that it will happen. I hope it doesn't. Doesn't mean I'm painting Razor as anything either.
                            Just hope that we don't start seeing losses on the backs of selections akin to the days of Hammet, Robinson, Ralph, Gibson and Razor.
                            I think there was one team with 13/15 Cantabs that came pretty close to being beaten by Ireland in Carisbrook.

                            Will not McDonald have strong opinions on Blues players and Holland on Canes players, there is balance there.
                            Razor is a pretty smart coach he will want the best player's that fit his game plan and the Culture he wants to create.
                            There will be some players from Fosters time as coach not selected I am sure as they will not fit the Criteria Robertson and the coaches want,Always happens when a new coaching structure takes over,some elements gone and new ones added.

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                            @Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                            @Crucial said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                            @Stargazer said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                            @Crucial How many of them are actually from Canterbury?

                            Don't know, don't care.

                            This coaching group however has been pulled from coaches and assistants all with links to the Crusaders and Canterbury. I expect that quite naturally there will be advantages to players that have also been part of those systems and a perception of bias from others which will become a deafening noise should the team not perform and other player options are overlooked.

                            Not saying that it will happen. I hope it doesn't. Doesn't mean I'm painting Razor as anything either.
                            Just hope that we don't start seeing losses on the backs of selections akin to the days of Hammet, Robinson, Ralph, Gibson and Razor.
                            I think there was one team with 13/15 Cantabs that came pretty close to being beaten by Ireland in Carisbrook.

                            Will not McDonald have strong opinions on Blues players and Holland on Canes players, there is balance there.
                            Razor is a pretty smart coach he will want the best player's that fit his game plan and the Culture he wants to create.
                            There will be some players from Fosters time as coach not selected I am sure as they will not fit the Criteria Robertson and the coaches want,Always happens with a new coaching structure takes over,some elements gone and new ones added.

                            I fully understand all of that.
                            I am saying that I hope the team does well because if it doesn't the accusations of red and black bias from the rest of the country will be loud if there are players that look like they are there because they are known ahead of form.

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              @Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                              @Crucial said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                              @Stargazer said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                              @Crucial How many of them are actually from Canterbury?

                              Don't know, don't care.

                              This coaching group however has been pulled from coaches and assistants all with links to the Crusaders and Canterbury. I expect that quite naturally there will be advantages to players that have also been part of those systems and a perception of bias from others which will become a deafening noise should the team not perform and other player options are overlooked.

                              Not saying that it will happen. I hope it doesn't. Doesn't mean I'm painting Razor as anything either.
                              Just hope that we don't start seeing losses on the backs of selections akin to the days of Hammet, Robinson, Ralph, Gibson and Razor.
                              I think there was one team with 13/15 Cantabs that came pretty close to being beaten by Ireland in Carisbrook.

                              Will not McDonald have strong opinions on Blues players and Holland on Canes players, there is balance there.
                              Razor is a pretty smart coach he will want the best player's that fit his game plan and the Culture he wants to create.
                              There will be some players from Fosters time as coach not selected I am sure as they will not fit the Criteria Robertson and the coaches want,Always happens with a new coaching structure takes over,some elements gone and new ones added.

                              I fully understand all of that.
                              I am saying that I hope the team does well because if it doesn't the accusations of red and black bias from the rest of the country will be loud if there are players that look like they are there because they are known ahead of form.

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                                @Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                @Crucial said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                @Stargazer said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                @Crucial How many of them are actually from Canterbury?

                                Don't know, don't care.

                                This coaching group however has been pulled from coaches and assistants all with links to the Crusaders and Canterbury. I expect that quite naturally there will be advantages to players that have also been part of those systems and a perception of bias from others which will become a deafening noise should the team not perform and other player options are overlooked.

                                Not saying that it will happen. I hope it doesn't. Doesn't mean I'm painting Razor as anything either.
                                Just hope that we don't start seeing losses on the backs of selections akin to the days of Hammet, Robinson, Ralph, Gibson and Razor.
                                I think there was one team with 13/15 Cantabs that came pretty close to being beaten by Ireland in Carisbrook.

                                Will not McDonald have strong opinions on Blues players and Holland on Canes players, there is balance there.
                                Razor is a pretty smart coach he will want the best player's that fit his game plan and the Culture he wants to create.
                                There will be some players from Fosters time as coach not selected I am sure as they will not fit the Criteria Robertson and the coaches want,Always happens with a new coaching structure takes over,some elements gone and new ones added.

                                I fully understand all of that.
                                I am saying that I hope the team does well because if it doesn't the accusations of red and black bias from the rest of the country will be loud if there are players that look like they are there because they are known ahead of form.

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                                @Crucial said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                @Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                @Crucial said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                @Stargazer said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                @Crucial How many of them are actually from Canterbury?

                                Don't know, don't care.

                                This coaching group however has been pulled from coaches and assistants all with links to the Crusaders and Canterbury. I expect that quite naturally there will be advantages to players that have also been part of those systems and a perception of bias from others which will become a deafening noise should the team not perform and other player options are overlooked.

                                Not saying that it will happen. I hope it doesn't. Doesn't mean I'm painting Razor as anything either.
                                Just hope that we don't start seeing losses on the backs of selections akin to the days of Hammet, Robinson, Ralph, Gibson and Razor.
                                I think there was one team with 13/15 Cantabs that came pretty close to being beaten by Ireland in Carisbrook.

                                Will not McDonald have strong opinions on Blues players and Holland on Canes players, there is balance there.
                                Razor is a pretty smart coach he will want the best player's that fit his game plan and the Culture he wants to create.
                                There will be some players from Fosters time as coach not selected I am sure as they will not fit the Criteria Robertson and the coaches want,Always happens with a new coaching structure takes over,some elements gone and new ones added.

                                I fully understand all of that.
                                I am saying that I hope the team does well because if it doesn't the accusations of red and black bias from the rest of the country will be loud if there are players that look like they are there because they are known ahead of form.

                                Ok I see where you are coming from,I hope that as well.
                                Although form has not always been the absolute criteria in past AB coaching regimes selections, that in most coaching era's I think.

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                                  two coaches of Maori heritage (MacDonald & Hansen) is a change from recent years, have to go back to 2017 when the professor was an assistant.

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                                    two coaches of Maori heritage (MacDonald & Hansen) is a change from recent years, have to go back to 2017 when the professor was an assistant.

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                                    @kiwi_expat said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                    two coaches of Maori heritage (MacDonald & Hansen) is a change from recent years, have to go back to 2017 when the professor was an assistant.

                                    racist.

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                                      @Stargazer said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                      @Crucial How many of them are actually from Canterbury?

                                      Don't know, don't care.

                                      This coaching group however has been pulled from coaches and assistants all with links to the Crusaders and Canterbury. I expect that quite naturally there will be advantages to players that have also been part of those systems and a perception of bias from others which will become a deafening noise should the team not perform and other player options are overlooked.

                                      Not saying that it will happen. I hope it doesn't. Doesn't mean I'm painting Razor as anything either.
                                      Just hope that we don't start seeing losses on the backs of selections akin to the days of Hammet, Robinson, Ralph, Gibson and Razor.
                                      I think there was one team with 13/15 Cantabs that came pretty close to being beaten by Ireland in Carisbrook.

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                                      @Crucial We've gone from a complete Chiefs mafia for the last world cup cycle (Foster, McLeod, Hill, then Strawbridge) 2019-2023, to none at all for 2024-2027. Quite the contrast huh?

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                                        two coaches of Maori heritage (MacDonald & Hansen) is a change from recent years, have to go back to 2017 when the professor was an assistant.

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                                        @kiwi_expat said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                        two coaches of Maori heritage (MacDonald & Hansen) is a change from recent years, have to go back to 2017 when the professor was an assistant.

                                        Wayne Smith? He is of scottish heritage.

                                        https://www.allblacks.com/news/a-tribute-to-wayne-smith/

                                        Attack and defence patterns were based around Māori themes, unusual at the time but sensible given most of the players were Māori. Ironically Smith has no Māori blood at all. His Iwi is the Scottish Ross clan.
                                        
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                                          Will be interesting to see who the selectors are. Robertson will be one, and Ryan is currently one of Foster's selectors. I wonder if Schmidt is still interested?

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