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Blues v Waratahs

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    Duluth
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    Zarn is such a good fullback. Low error rate, huge boot and picks great lines. Obviously he’s useful coming into first receiver too.

    I think his game is more suited to Test rugby than some of the other fullback options who seem more like wingers at the higher level

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    • BonesB Bones

      @antipodean said in Blues v Waratahs:

      @Bones said in Blues v Waratahs:

      @antipodean said in Blues v Waratahs:

      @Bones said in Blues v Waratahs:

      Shit was that an aggressive tackle from Choat without going flying in out of control or staying back on his heels? I thought there was only the two extremes.

      Because the player he smashed was high rather than diving. Great effort trying to pretend they're analogous.

      Ignoring the point again, you do you bud. Let me know when you've decided which out of the two extremes he was doing. Because like you said, you can only fly in or be back on your heels right?

      I guess you think you have a point if you imagine a different take on what actually happened. Choat, like Ofa,, was coming forward to tackle a player. Both aimed low. The difference is HJH dived to ground, while Botha stayed upright.

      😂 The difference is Ofa came flying in out of control, to the extent that he went soaring over the player he was trying to tackle. I'm the one being called a delusional soccer mum, because apparently you have to be a dick name caller instead of discussing, yet you think Ofa and Choat approached their tackles in the same way. Yeah good one.

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      @Bones said in Blues v Waratahs:

      @antipodean said in Blues v Waratahs:

      @Bones said in Blues v Waratahs:

      @antipodean said in Blues v Waratahs:

      @Bones said in Blues v Waratahs:

      Shit was that an aggressive tackle from Choat without going flying in out of control or staying back on his heels? I thought there was only the two extremes.

      Because the player he smashed was high rather than diving. Great effort trying to pretend they're analogous.

      Ignoring the point again, you do you bud. Let me know when you've decided which out of the two extremes he was doing. Because like you said, you can only fly in or be back on your heels right?

      I guess you think you have a point if you imagine a different take on what actually happened. Choat, like Ofa,, was coming forward to tackle a player. Both aimed low. The difference is HJH dived to ground, while Botha stayed upright.

      😂 The difference is Ofa came flying in out of control, to the extent that he went soaring over the player he was trying to tackle. I'm the one being called a delusional soccer mum, because apparently you have to be a dick name caller instead of discussing, yet you think Ofa and Choat approached their tackles in the same way. Yeah good one.

      You're making the classical error of determining fault from the outcome and imagining events rather than what actually happened. "flying in out of control" from a prop after three steps out of the defensive line :face_with_tears_of_joy:, when in the last step the attacker dives to ground.

      But you do you bud.

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @Bones said in Blues v Waratahs:

        @antipodean said in Blues v Waratahs:

        @Bones said in Blues v Waratahs:

        @antipodean said in Blues v Waratahs:

        @Bones said in Blues v Waratahs:

        Shit was that an aggressive tackle from Choat without going flying in out of control or staying back on his heels? I thought there was only the two extremes.

        Because the player he smashed was high rather than diving. Great effort trying to pretend they're analogous.

        Ignoring the point again, you do you bud. Let me know when you've decided which out of the two extremes he was doing. Because like you said, you can only fly in or be back on your heels right?

        I guess you think you have a point if you imagine a different take on what actually happened. Choat, like Ofa,, was coming forward to tackle a player. Both aimed low. The difference is HJH dived to ground, while Botha stayed upright.

        😂 The difference is Ofa came flying in out of control, to the extent that he went soaring over the player he was trying to tackle. I'm the one being called a delusional soccer mum, because apparently you have to be a dick name caller instead of discussing, yet you think Ofa and Choat approached their tackles in the same way. Yeah good one.

        You're making the classical error of determining fault from the outcome and imagining events rather than what actually happened. "flying in out of control" from a prop after three steps out of the defensive line :face_with_tears_of_joy:, when in the last step the attacker dives to ground.

        But you do you bud.

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        Bones
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        @antipodean ok cool so he was completely in control, and only 3 steps from woah to go! Can't wait to see that new found acceleration put to good use in attack, he's going to be devastating.

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          @antipodean ok cool so he was completely in control, and only 3 steps from woah to go! Can't wait to see that new found acceleration put to good use in attack, he's going to be devastating.

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          antipodean
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          @Bones said in Blues v Waratahs:

          @antipodean ok cool so he was completely in control, and only 3 steps from woah to go! Can't wait to see that new found acceleration put to good use in attack, he's going to be devastating.

          It's instructive how much you need to rely on straw man and misrepresentation to feel you have a point. I'll leave you to it.

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            @Bones said in Blues v Waratahs:

            @antipodean ok cool so he was completely in control, and only 3 steps from woah to go! Can't wait to see that new found acceleration put to good use in attack, he's going to be devastating.

            It's instructive how much you need to rely on straw man and misrepresentation to feel you have a point. I'll leave you to it.

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            Bones
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            @antipodean said in Blues v Waratahs:

            @Bones said in Blues v Waratahs:

            @antipodean ok cool so he was completely in control, and only 3 steps from woah to go! Can't wait to see that new found acceleration put to good use in attack, he's going to be devastating.

            It's instructive how much you need to rely on straw man and misrepresentation to feel you have a point. I'll leave you to it.

            No don't go, there's way more names you could call me.

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                Zarn is such a good fullback. Low error rate, huge boot and picks great lines. Obviously he’s useful coming into first receiver too.

                I think his game is more suited to Test rugby than some of the other fullback options who seem more like wingers at the higher level

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                Old Samurai Jack
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                @Duluth His option taking on attack and defense was really good tonight.

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                    @SBW1 What is Zarn like at 10?

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                      @SBW1 What is Zarn like at 10?

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                      @SBW1 He really hasn't played much 10 but does jump into first receiver a fair bit when he plays at fullback.

                      Would like to see him play 10 in the NPC.

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                        #230

                        Am watching on delay.

                        Am liking Zarn muchly

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          @SBW1 He really hasn't played much 10 but does jump into first receiver a fair bit when he plays at fullback.

                          Would like to see him play 10 in the NPC.

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                          @KiwiMurph I wonder if he could be a solution in the future at 10 for the All Blacks. He has a powerful boot and looks composed under pressure. I am no expert like some of the other posters, I do feel confident when he is in a pressure situation, he can use his powerful boot to get us out of trouble.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @SBW1 He really hasn't played much 10 but does jump into first receiver a fair bit when he plays at fullback.

                            Would like to see him play 10 in the NPC.

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                            @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Waratahs:

                            He really hasn't played much 10 but does jump into first receiver a fair bit when he plays at fullback.

                            Would like to see him play 10 in the NPC.

                            I thought his game for the NZ Maori was one of the best games by any NZ fullback last year

                            I'd prefer not to have him play 10 in the NPC this year. I would like to see him in the AB squad as a fullback. He's good enough now, maybe he becomes a ten later, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's a long term AB fullback

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Waratahs:

                              He really hasn't played much 10 but does jump into first receiver a fair bit when he plays at fullback.

                              Would like to see him play 10 in the NPC.

                              I thought his game for the NZ Maori was one of the best games by any NZ fullback last year

                              I'd prefer not to have him play 10 in the NPC this year. I would like to see him in the AB squad as a fullback. He's good enough now, maybe he becomes a ten later, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's a long term AB fullback

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                              @Duluth he's meet with selectors big chance

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                He really hasn't played much 10 but does jump into first receiver a fair bit when he plays at fullback.

                                Would like to see him play 10 in the NPC.

                                I thought his game for the NZ Maori was one of the best games by any NZ fullback last year

                                I'd prefer not to have him play 10 in the NPC this year. I would like to see him in the AB squad as a fullback. He's good enough now, maybe he becomes a ten later, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's a long term AB fullback

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                                @Duluth He could play multiple roles. Can remember a few years ago hearing him compared to Dan Carter, while that is a big comparison and big shoes to fill, he isn't all hype. His brother plays centre, is that another position he can potentially cover?

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                                  @Duluth He could play multiple roles. Can remember a few years ago hearing him compared to Dan Carter, while that is a big comparison and big shoes to fill, he isn't all hype. His brother plays centre, is that another position he can potentially cover?

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                                  Crazy Horse
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                                  @SBW1 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                  @Duluth He could play multiple roles. Can remember a few years ago hearing him compared to Dan Carter, while that is a big comparison and big shoes to fill, he isn't all hype. His brother plays centre, is that another position he can potentially cover?

                                  He is one of those natural looking players that can probably do well in a number of positions. His only limitation would be pace. While he is no Goodhue, he isn't quick.

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                                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                    @SBW1 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                    @Duluth He could play multiple roles. Can remember a few years ago hearing him compared to Dan Carter, while that is a big comparison and big shoes to fill, he isn't all hype. His brother plays centre, is that another position he can potentially cover?

                                    He is one of those natural looking players that can probably do well in a number of positions. His only limitation would be pace. While he is no Goodhue, he isn't quick.

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                                    @Crazy-Horse Just saw an article in the Herald that had a picture of SP and mentioned two guys missing out on WC due to injury, if true this would surely open the door for Zarn.

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                                      Quite noticeable in the post game interviews how big Zarn is. Not quite Jordie but he's not a small man.

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                                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                        @SBW1 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                        @Duluth He could play multiple roles. Can remember a few years ago hearing him compared to Dan Carter, while that is a big comparison and big shoes to fill, he isn't all hype. His brother plays centre, is that another position he can potentially cover?

                                        He is one of those natural looking players that can probably do well in a number of positions. His only limitation would be pace. While he is no Goodhue, he isn't quick.

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                                        Duluth
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                                        @Crazy-Horse said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                        His only limitation would be pace. While he is no Goodhue, he isn't quick.

                                        Yeah he's quick enough but he's not fast.

                                        I think that's less of an issue at fullback because he's running onto the ball, plus he picks great lines when joining the backline. His running game is more about angles and power. NZ sides all play a similar style and we generally have tens with a lot of acceleration, he doesn't really fit that mould

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                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-nightmare-injury-casts-shadow-over-two-world-cup-contenders/D6DCARK2EJDX7HQYNSC7BNJ44Y/

                                          After watching his men run in seven-tries-to-three against an understrength and underwhelming Waratahs side, Blues coach Leon MacDonald braced for bad news with Perofeta and Laulala’s prognosis.

                                          “Both look relatively significant,” MacDonald said after the Blues blew out their 20-7 half time lead. “Stevie felt his shoulder move a little bit so we need to get a scan on that and see the extent of the damage. I think he’s done something to that particular shoulder in the past. We’ll be sweating on that.

                                          “Nepo’s calf doesn’t look great either, so we’ll be looking into that as well.”

                                          MacDonald confirmed captain Dalton Papalii and Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, following news of his three-year deal with the Warriors from next season, will return from injury for the trip to Fiji.

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