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Hurricanes 2024

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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    @Nepia the Shield moves around all the time. True success is winning titles and finishing the job when it matters.

    Atleast our lads aren’t the most hated province in NZ.

    Also, who calls their own franchise shit. Crack up.

    The Canes and Lions will be fine, they are financially poor atm because they’ve just invested in the best sports training facility in NZ which is already bearing fruit not only for the Canes atm but the Phoenix and other teams (Lions championship in 2022) that train there.

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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

    The Canes and Lions will be fine, they are financially poor atm because they’ve just invested in the best sports training facility in NZ which is already bearing fruit not only for the Canes atm but the Phoenix and other teams (Lions championship in 2022) that train there.

    I think you will find that the NZCIS is a privately owned organisation and all users there are tenants who pay for the use of the fabulous facilites. I have heard whispers that the costs of using the place might be rather expensive but to use the best you cannot expect to pay $2.00 Shop prices!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/99630524/upper-hutt-sports-hub-could-be-a-game-changer-for-wellingtons-top-teams?rm=a

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/130243019/108m-sports-campus-will-be-game-changer-for-new-zealand-sport

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      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

      The Canes and Lions will be fine, they are financially poor atm because they’ve just invested in the best sports training facility in NZ which is already bearing fruit not only for the Canes atm but the Phoenix and other teams (Lions championship in 2022) that train there.

      I think you will find that the NZCIS is a privately owned organisation and all users there are tenants who pay for the use of the fabulous facilites. I have heard whispers that the costs of using the place might be rather expensive but to use the best you cannot expect to pay $2.00 Shop prices!

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/99630524/upper-hutt-sports-hub-could-be-a-game-changer-for-wellingtons-top-teams?rm=a

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/130243019/108m-sports-campus-will-be-game-changer-for-new-zealand-sport

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      @Higgins I understand that it’s far too expensive for a team like the Lions so there are whispers they are heading back to their old training base in Newtown for this year’s NPC.

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        @Higgins I understand that it’s far too expensive for a team like the Lions so there are whispers they are heading back to their old training base in Newtown for this year’s NPC.

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        @Canes4life I had heard that too but was reluctant to let it out of the bag on here. Even if WRFU have a longish contract it would be pointless them staying at NZCIS if they could not honour it financially and putting themselves further in the poo. If true hopefully common sense from both parties would prevail. If they bleed too much further cash they might be forced to drop out of the NPC and be consigned to play in the Heartland Championship!!!!!!!!!
        Certainly a major fall from the halcyon early days of Super Rugby when their local affiliated Clubs received annual distributions of anything between 15 and 20 grand from Hurricanes financial surpluses for a short period.

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        • B BerhamporeNinja

          some funny sh!t @Canes4life going one outs with all the angry HB weirdos, yous need to stop coming at him, the bro never backs down haha

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          @BerhamporeNinja said in Hurricanes 2024:

          some funny sh!t @Canes4life going one outs with all the angry HB weirdos, yous need to stop coming at him, the bro never backs down haha

          Hey, I'm not a weirdo. :angry_face:

          Angry, maybe?

          In a shitfighting mood because I just finished my one big week of work each year - definitely.

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            One for the future. Maybe

            https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/all-blacks-and-france-in-tug-of-war-for-teenage-sensation-as-hurricanes-starlet-wanted-by-five-top-14-giants/ar-BB1kJZ8S?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ACTS&cvid=f06e3f5460c94ba48f3b85696b970bcd&ei=37

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            • WingerW Winger

              One for the future. Maybe

              https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/all-blacks-and-france-in-tug-of-war-for-teenage-sensation-as-hurricanes-starlet-wanted-by-five-top-14-giants/ar-BB1kJZ8S?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ACTS&cvid=f06e3f5460c94ba48f3b85696b970bcd&ei=37

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              @Winger Hopefully NZR will offer the lad a financially competitive offer. No doubt he will want to follow the dream of wearing the Black Jersey and adding to its legacy, but there are also bills to pay.

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              • WingerW Winger

                One for the future. Maybe

                https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/all-blacks-and-france-in-tug-of-war-for-teenage-sensation-as-hurricanes-starlet-wanted-by-five-top-14-giants/ar-BB1kJZ8S?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ACTS&cvid=f06e3f5460c94ba48f3b85696b970bcd&ei=37

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                @Winger said in Hurricanes 2024:

                One for the future. Maybe

                https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/all-blacks-and-france-in-tug-of-war-for-teenage-sensation-as-hurricanes-starlet-wanted-by-five-top-14-giants/ar-BB1kJZ8S?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ACTS&cvid=f06e3f5460c94ba48f3b85696b970bcd&ei=37

                Would be nice, even though I have no idea who he is, to see the usual head to the Northern Hemisphere, reversed.

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                  Well he's French, not kiwi, we have just (possibly) poached him from Normandy.

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                    The French will make him an offer he can't refuse, especially given NZ are unlikely to throw a lot of money at a yet to be proven kid.

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                      Roigard posted on his Insta “I’ll be back”, so that doesn’t sound good. Players don’t usually do that if they are only out for 8 weeks or so.

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                        So with Roigard likely out for the season, Perenara now becomes pivotal to our title hopes. He’s in the best nick of his career after spending so long on the sidelines himself so hopefully he can get back to his best. We’ve also got Richard Judd and Jordi Vijoen behind him. I wouldn’t mind seeing Vijoen get more time, he was one of the Canes best in the first few games of the year and has a bloody slick pass. I’d prefer him backing up Perenara than the ageing Judd simply because of his bullet passing game and his zippyness around the ruck, could be influential late in a game. He also has a good relationship with Cameron, both having played for Manawatu this year.

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                          Losing Cam is a setback for the Canes and the ABs

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                            Losing Cam is a setback for the Canes and the ABs

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                            @canefan that’s an understatement. Arguably the most important player for both sides.

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                              https://www.instagram.com/p/C5K_M5dyl8V/?igsh=cjRqNmVpanRqbHBo

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                @canefan that’s an understatement. Arguably the most important player for both sides.

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                                @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                @canefan that’s an understatement. Arguably the most important player for both sides.

                                Cam Roigard. The Ethan Blackadder of 2024.

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  @canefan that’s an understatement. Arguably the most important player for both sides.

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                                  @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                  @canefan that’s an understatement. Arguably the most important player for both sides.

                                  He was in great form. But he needs work on his defense still

                                  And at least we have three good HB still in the team. Last year we only had the very badly out of form Jamie Booth. This year we have TJ and another good+ HB and also another super exciting young HB prospects that I'd like to see (a lot) more of with HB rotation.

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:

                                    @canefan that’s an understatement. Arguably the most important player for both sides.

                                    Cam Roigard. The Ethan Blackadder of 2024.

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                                    @MN5 the others will be the man replacing S Whitelock, and the man replacing R Mo’unga.

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                                      The Hurricanes have had big loses in the last 3 years.

                                      https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350232265/concern-capital-hurricanes-lose-14-million-2023

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                                        Mirroring @SouthernMann's post on the Highlanders page we are a third of the way through the season, below are what's been good and bad so far this season.

                                        The good:

                                        Coach Laidlaw:

                                        Clark Laidlaw has vastly improved the environment coming in as head coach. He seems to be a likeable character and the players seem to be willing to go that extra mile for him on and off the field. He has no black mark against his resume yet so hopefully he can continue that post the bye. A vast improvement on Jason Holland.

                                        Tight five:

                                        It's been a while since our tight-five have done the business. The Canes front five have rarely been beaten this year and are providing a strong platform for the backs to do their thing. We seem to also have plenty of depth, my only worry is if Aumua goes down and we are left to play O'Reilly every week.

                                        The loose forwards:

                                        We've got arguably the most quality in terms of depth in this area out of any other team in the comp. When Devan Flanders can't even make the 23, it's a pretty good reflection of how things are going. Everyone is putting their hand up when given an opportunity which means players are putting out their best every single game.

                                        Ruben Love:

                                        What a return he's made since his injury last year. A big off-season is paying huge dividends for Ruben Love with the form fullback quickly becoming a cornerstone of this side. Apparently, he's back over in Sydney during the bye week training with Roger Fabri which shows his huge endeavor to get better and better.

                                        NZCIS facility

                                        How much of a difference has the NZCIS training facility enhanced the performance of the Hurricanes? They look to be super fit this year compared to any other year previously, or is it Laidlaw's influence coming straight from the Sevens? Either way I don't think it's a coincidence that both the Canes and Phoenix are sitting top of the log in their respective competitions.

                                        The bad:

                                        Cam Roigard's injury

                                        Things were going along almost too perfectly for the Canes leading into the Highlanders that something had to give. Who knew our best player would end up on the canvas with what looks like a season ending injury. We haven't yet heard the outcome of his scan in Auckland but it's highly likely he'll be out for the remainder of the campaign. Next man up, TJ Perenara.

                                        Depth at hooker and first five

                                        The biggest concern I have with the Canes moving forward is if Aumua goes down. O'Reilly is a big drop from Aumua and it would be a huge hit if we had to play the rest of our matches with O'Reilly at rake. Same goes with Cameron, Morgan needs to show more at Super Rugby against the better teams, however, because he's not getting many minutes means it's hard for him to prove that he's improved so to speak. Hopefully the Canes have already had their one big injury for the year and can keep their squad relatively fit through to the end of the season.

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