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AB RWC Squad

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  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

    I still cant get my head around the wingers ,

    especially if they start Telia at 11 ,

    where do Leister and Clarke play ?

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    @kiwiinmelb said in AB RWC Squad:

    I still cant get my head around the wingers ,

    especially if they start Telia at 11 ,

    where do Leister and Clarke play ?

    So we've got:

    Telea - 11/14
    Jordan - 14/15
    Fainga’anuku - 11/13
    Clarke - 11
    Narawa - 14/11

    Clarke is the odd player out as a specialist left winger. So LF plays at centre if they both start?

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      Reeks of an unwillingness to make the hard calls on Clarke, Narawa and Leicester Ofa Ki Wales Twickenham Fainga'anuku.

      Also too strongly relies on Frizell maintaining form.

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        canefan
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        Better make up a bed in the non squad players' house in Paris for Lord...

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          @kiwiinmelb said in AB RWC Squad:

          I still cant get my head around the wingers ,

          especially if they start Telia at 11 ,

          where do Leister and Clarke play ?

          So we've got:

          Telea - 11/14
          Jordan - 14/15
          Fainga’anuku - 11/13
          Clarke - 11
          Narawa - 14/11

          Clarke is the odd player out as a specialist left winger. So LF plays at centre if they both start?

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          Bones
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          #378

          @Bovidae Narawa covers fullback at a pinch too doesn't he?

          The current backline is all wings and first fives, so selecting 5 wings makes sense if you want to carry that on I guess.

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            His Bobness
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            #379

            They’re taking only three working locks? They’re travelling with only five loose forwards and expecting Frizell to cover for broken Brodie at a pinch? They’ve got (count ‘em) FIVE outside backs on board, plus BB? This is like launching an airliner with multiple wings, a small engine and no reserve power. I’m sure everything will be fine.

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            • Victor MeldrewV Away
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              Pretty much as expected when you consider the TWM's thinking over the last year and how they seem to look at players performance in camp as well as on the field.

              Havili I get as he's a known quantity and can cover multiple positions and Ennor is injured. But, like others, don't get the surfeit of wingers over 5 loose forwards. Think Clarke and Christie are lucky and Finau a bit unlucky.

              Big worry for me is if Scooter gets injured as we are then really exposed at lock and 6. Can we call up other players if a squad member gets injured?

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              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                Pretty much as expected when you consider the TWM's thinking over the last year and how they seem to look at players performance in camp as well as on the field.

                Havili I get as he's a known quantity and can cover multiple positions and Ennor is injured. But, like others, don't get the surfeit of wingers over 5 loose forwards. Think Clarke and Christie are lucky and Finau a bit unlucky.

                Big worry for me is if Scooter gets injured as we are then really exposed at lock and 6. Can we call up other players if a squad member gets injured?

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                #381

                @Victor-Meldrew That injured player would have to be replaced.

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                • DuluthD Offline
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                  Duluth
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                  #382

                  I mentioned before that think they are settling on a backline bench of a halfback/ALB/winger. No need for 10 or fullback cover with Jordan & BB in the starting xv

                  5 wings is still too much, but I think this confirms they’ll be using 3 specialist wings in the 23

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                    Pretty much as expected when you consider the TWM's thinking over the last year and how they seem to look at players performance in camp as well as on the field.

                    Havili I get as he's a known quantity and can cover multiple positions and Ennor is injured. But, like others, don't get the surfeit of wingers over 5 loose forwards. Think Clarke and Christie are lucky and Finau a bit unlucky.

                    Big worry for me is if Scooter gets injured as we are then really exposed at lock and 6. Can we call up other players if a squad member gets injured?

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                    Stargazer
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                    #383

                    @Victor-Meldrew I think they can only call a player into the squad if the injured player is going home. So if a player has a minor injury and they don't want to send him home, they can not use an injury cover player from outside the squad.

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      Pretty much as expected when you consider the TWM's thinking over the last year and how they seem to look at players performance in camp as well as on the field.

                      Havili I get as he's a known quantity and can cover multiple positions and Ennor is injured. But, like others, don't get the surfeit of wingers over 5 loose forwards. Think Clarke and Christie are lucky and Finau a bit unlucky.

                      Big worry for me is if Scooter gets injured as we are then really exposed at lock and 6. Can we call up other players if a squad member gets injured?

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                      #384

                      @Victor-Meldrew
                      Havili is a known quantity : I would have preferred a known quality player instead. I hope he won't repeat the same blunders that we saw on Saturday against Otago.

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                        kiwi_expat
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                        #385

                        Don't have too much of an issue with Foster's 33-man squad, just would've liked to have seen Goodhue over Havili, Finau instead of Clarke, and Fakatava over Christie.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @kiwiinmelb said in AB RWC Squad:

                          I still cant get my head around the wingers ,

                          especially if they start Telia at 11 ,

                          where do Leister and Clarke play ?

                          So we've got:

                          Telea - 11/14
                          Jordan - 14/15
                          Fainga’anuku - 11/13
                          Clarke - 11
                          Narawa - 14/11

                          Clarke is the odd player out as a specialist left winger. So LF plays at centre if they both start?

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                          @Bovidae

                          Clarke can also play 14.

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                            Yeahtheboys
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                            #387

                            Thank god. If we have 4 wingers go down, we still have 2 more to play with. No point having cover for ageing forwards who are currently injured, would make too much sense

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                              @Bovidae

                              Clarke can also play 14.

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                              @sparky he should be able to, can't think when I last saw that though.

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                                Yeahtheboys
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                                Having wingers on the bench is brain dead. Especially when Reiko is in the centers. Should be doing a 6-2 split, how often do you NEED 2 back replacements because of injury? You need more forwards coming on fresh especially with our aging pack.

                                Jordie can cover 12 15 and wing (at a pinch)

                                Reiko is the best winger in the world just playing Center for shits and gigs.

                                Beauden covers 10/15

                                Jordan covers wing / 15

                                Everyone position is covered, just need one back to cover for a possible injury

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                                • Y Yeahtheboys

                                  Having wingers on the bench is brain dead. Especially when Reiko is in the centers. Should be doing a 6-2 split, how often do you NEED 2 back replacements because of injury? You need more forwards coming on fresh especially with our aging pack.

                                  Jordie can cover 12 15 and wing (at a pinch)

                                  Reiko is the best winger in the world just playing Center for shits and gigs.

                                  Beauden covers 10/15

                                  Jordan covers wing / 15

                                  Everyone position is covered, just need one back to cover for a possible injury

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                                  Yeahtheboys
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                                  #390
                                  1. Ethan De Groot

                                  2. Samisoni Taukeiaho

                                  3. Tyrell Lomax

                                  4. Scott Barrett

                                  5. Sam Whitelock

                                  6. Shannon Frizell

                                  7. Sam Cane

                                  8. Ardie Savea

                                  9. Aaron Smith

                                  10. Richie Mounga

                                  11. Leicester Faingaanuku

                                  12. Jordie Barrett

                                  13. Reiko Ioane

                                  14. Will Jordan

                                  15. Beaudy (should be Dmac but anyway..)

                                  16. Codie Taylor

                                  17. Tamaiti Williams

                                  18. Fletcher Newell

                                  19. Brodie Retallick

                                  20. Luke Jacobson

                                  21. Dalton Papalii (should’ve been Finau)

                                  22. Cam Roigard

                                  23. Anton Lienert Brown

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                                  • Y Yeahtheboys

                                    Thank god. If we have 4 wingers go down, we still have 2 more to play with. No point having cover for ageing forwards who are currently injured, would make too much sense

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                                    #391

                                    @His-Bobness said in AB RWC Squad:

                                    They’re taking only three working locks? They’re travelling with only five loose forwards and expecting Frizell to cover for broken Brodie at a pinch?

                                    Finau should be on the plane, of all the loose-forward options only Barrett is bigger than Sampeni, at 194cm/115kg he's bigger than Frizell, Papali'i, Jacobson, Cane & Savea.

                                    Finau has also played well at lock for Chiefs previously, should be going as the backup to Frizell at 6 and as emergency lock cover.

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                                    • Y Yeahtheboys
                                      1. Ethan De Groot

                                      2. Samisoni Taukeiaho

                                      3. Tyrell Lomax

                                      4. Scott Barrett

                                      5. Sam Whitelock

                                      6. Shannon Frizell

                                      7. Sam Cane

                                      8. Ardie Savea

                                      9. Aaron Smith

                                      10. Richie Mounga

                                      11. Leicester Faingaanuku

                                      12. Jordie Barrett

                                      13. Reiko Ioane

                                      14. Will Jordan

                                      15. Beaudy (should be Dmac but anyway..)

                                      16. Codie Taylor

                                      17. Tamaiti Williams

                                      18. Fletcher Newell

                                      19. Brodie Retallick

                                      20. Luke Jacobson

                                      21. Dalton Papalii (should’ve been Finau)

                                      22. Cam Roigard

                                      23. Anton Lienert Brown

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                                      Duluth
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                                      #392

                                      @Yeahtheboys

                                      Yes a 6/2 is possible but there is no indication that they are interested in it. 6/2’s are a gamble

                                      There are signs they want a specialist winger on the bench. I’m talking about what I think they’ll do, not what I want them to do.

                                      Why? I think in recent years the bench has had minimal impact (some positive signs this year though). Maybe they think that’s the best way of getting an impact?

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                                        Yeahtheboys
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                                        #393

                                        Minnows

                                        1. Ofa Tuungafasi

                                        2. Dane Coles

                                        3. Nepo Laulala

                                        4. Brodie Retallick

                                        5. Tupou Vaa’i

                                        6. Scott Barrett

                                        7. Dalton Papalii

                                        8. Luke Jacobson

                                        9. Cam Roigard

                                        10. Damian McKenzie

                                        11. Mark Telea

                                        12. David Havili

                                        13. Anton Lienert-Brown

                                        14. Emoni Narawa

                                        15. Will Jordan

                                        16. Samisoni Taukeiaho

                                        17. Tamaiti Williams

                                        18. Fletcher Newell

                                        19. Shannon Frizell

                                        20. Sam Cane

                                        21. Aaron Smith (fuck Christie)

                                        22. Reiko Ioane

                                        23. Leicester Faingaanuku (fuck Clarke)

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                                          TeWaio
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                                          Extrapolating the selection logic here, why not just take 33 wingers, then we'll score load of tries?

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