All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham
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Roigard has already made a difference. Unlucky there with the snipe.
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Roigard 'tackled' high
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
I have to give credit to the Boks, their exits are excellent, scrum and lineout good, defensive pressure excellent. Kind of the fundamentals for test match rugby.
That’s the key word
TEST
The All Blacks have spent the last eight years developing into the masters of the flat track bully, while other Rugby nations have been honing the key skills of TEST rugby.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Zero out of ten performance. Got to question the on-field leadership.
And the forward prep for this game.
Bring back Plums?
@akan004 said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Zero out of ten performance. Got to question the on-field leadership.
And the forward prep for this game.
Bring back Plums?
Nah. But there's clearly more work for Ryan to do.
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The Welsh performance last weekend starting to not look so bad
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The Welsh performance last weekend starting to not look so bad
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
The Welsh performance last weekend starting to not look so bad
Nice try. You guys aren’t winning anything either.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Mattasaurus said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Watching the NPC last night where the ref did his best stay out of the game, versus this, its a different game.
People keep saying this - so please tell us which calls he shouldn't have made today?
I think you're being deliberately obtuse.
Rugby is a sport where you can find a penalty at every ruck. Refs can do this, and you can then ask the question 'which call shouldn't have been made today'? What I want to see from refs is consistency, particularly around materiality. What shits supporters is the appearance of different standards during the game, or between teams.
3 penalties then a card 35 m out suggests a tightly whistled game; ignoring ball killing by SA late in the half will then have people asking whether that's consistent.
There is a lot of subjectivity, and there's a lot of pearl clutching on here, but the quality of the refereeing and the law interpretations aren't great. It's very hard to ref this game well, and the best refs generally let non-material things flow. As someone said, it's refs looking like they don't want attention, vs being at the centre of it.
This ref feels like a penalty for every ruck, and a card for most players. It's technically 'not wrong' but you'd struggle to say it's good. I've been frustrated with the framework and application of laws for a while, particularly around the inconsistencies from week to week.
Anyhoo, good physical but limited work from the Bokke. Well played, we've been defending really well, and playing some stupid stupid footy.
Thank you for writing this.
To cheer on this ref performance is completely disingenuous.
@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Mattasaurus said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Watching the NPC last night where the ref did his best stay out of the game, versus this, its a different game.
People keep saying this - so please tell us which calls he shouldn't have made today?
I think you're being deliberately obtuse.
Rugby is a sport where you can find a penalty at every ruck. Refs can do this, and you can then ask the question 'which call shouldn't have been made today'? What I want to see from refs is consistency, particularly around materiality. What shits supporters is the appearance of different standards during the game, or between teams.
3 penalties then a card 35 m out suggests a tightly whistled game; ignoring ball killing by SA late in the half will then have people asking whether that's consistent.
There is a lot of subjectivity, and there's a lot of pearl clutching on here, but the quality of the refereeing and the law interpretations aren't great. It's very hard to ref this game well, and the best refs generally let non-material things flow. As someone said, it's refs looking like they don't want attention, vs being at the centre of it.
This ref feels like a penalty for every ruck, and a card for most players. It's technically 'not wrong' but you'd struggle to say it's good. I've been frustrated with the framework and application of laws for a while, particularly around the inconsistencies from week to week.
Anyhoo, good physical but limited work from the Bokke. Well played, we've been defending really well, and playing some stupid stupid footy.
Thank you for writing this.
To cheer on this ref performance is completely disingenuous.
and to bitch and moan cos our team is losing and blaming the refs "style" is >>>>>????
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@sparky Which is presumably why they are the second ranked test team in the world
@His-Bobness They won’t be after this game…….
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
The Welsh performance last weekend starting to not look so bad
Nice try. You guys aren’t winning anything either.
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
The Welsh performance last weekend starting to not look so bad
Nice try. You guys aren’t winning anything either.
We’re not pretending we are
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Telea is the only positive.
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@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Mattasaurus said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Watching the NPC last night where the ref did his best stay out of the game, versus this, its a different game.
People keep saying this - so please tell us which calls he shouldn't have made today?
I think you're being deliberately obtuse.
Rugby is a sport where you can find a penalty at every ruck. Refs can do this, and you can then ask the question 'which call shouldn't have been made today'? What I want to see from refs is consistency, particularly around materiality. What shits supporters is the appearance of different standards during the game, or between teams.
3 penalties then a card 35 m out suggests a tightly whistled game; ignoring ball killing by SA late in the half will then have people asking whether that's consistent.
There is a lot of subjectivity, and there's a lot of pearl clutching on here, but the quality of the refereeing and the law interpretations aren't great. It's very hard to ref this game well, and the best refs generally let non-material things flow. As someone said, it's refs looking like they don't want attention, vs being at the centre of it.
This ref feels like a penalty for every ruck, and a card for most players. It's technically 'not wrong' but you'd struggle to say it's good. I've been frustrated with the framework and application of laws for a while, particularly around the inconsistencies from week to week.
Anyhoo, good physical but limited work from the Bokke. Well played, we've been defending really well, and playing some stupid stupid footy.
Thank you for writing this.
To cheer on this ref performance is completely disingenuous.
and to bitch and moan cos our team is losing and blaming the refs "style" is >>>>>????
@Mattasaurus said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Mattasaurus said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Watching the NPC last night where the ref did his best stay out of the game, versus this, its a different game.
People keep saying this - so please tell us which calls he shouldn't have made today?
I think you're being deliberately obtuse.
Rugby is a sport where you can find a penalty at every ruck. Refs can do this, and you can then ask the question 'which call shouldn't have been made today'? What I want to see from refs is consistency, particularly around materiality. What shits supporters is the appearance of different standards during the game, or between teams.
3 penalties then a card 35 m out suggests a tightly whistled game; ignoring ball killing by SA late in the half will then have people asking whether that's consistent.
There is a lot of subjectivity, and there's a lot of pearl clutching on here, but the quality of the refereeing and the law interpretations aren't great. It's very hard to ref this game well, and the best refs generally let non-material things flow. As someone said, it's refs looking like they don't want attention, vs being at the centre of it.
This ref feels like a penalty for every ruck, and a card for most players. It's technically 'not wrong' but you'd struggle to say it's good. I've been frustrated with the framework and application of laws for a while, particularly around the inconsistencies from week to week.
Anyhoo, good physical but limited work from the Bokke. Well played, we've been defending really well, and playing some stupid stupid footy.
Thank you for writing this.
To cheer on this ref performance is completely disingenuous.
and to bitch and moan cos our team is losing and blaming the refs "style" is >>>>>????
NZ have been shite, but they are chasing the game now. The ref was not as "busy" when black had the ball as he was when green had the ball. That's all people are saying.
Be pedantic. But be pedantic for both sides.
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our handling is the most concernign parts
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
our handling is the most concernign parts
Particularly in the forwards anywhere within 3m of a ruck.
