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  • TimT Offline
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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/major-breakthrough-in-new-zealand-rugby-governance-standoff-as-warring-stakeholders-agree-to-collaborate/5OBAPP6I2ZCKRNYWS3D2S23YMQ/

    Warring stakeholders, who have spent the last nine months in conflict, agreed at a private meeting before the New Zealand Rugby Annual General Meeting on Friday, to shift the dial to collaboration.

    The provincial unions, Super Rugby Clubs [SRC], New Zealand Māori Rugby Board [NZMRB] and New Zealand Rugby Players’ Association [NZRPA] have, at last, agreed to engage in discussions to plot a way forward that will lead to governance change that all parties can live with.

    The breakthrough agreement meant that North Harbour withdrew its resolution to further change the constitution to enable the unions to handpick individuals to represent the SRC, NZMRB and NZRPA despite the fact all three major stakeholders were actively boycotting the proposed new governance structure.

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    • HigginsH Higgins

      @Bovidae said in NZR review:

      Erin Rush is the mother of Stanley Solomon.

      https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-events/latest-news/new-zealand-rugby-welcomes-new-president-and-vice-president

      She is also a Life Member of my Wellington Football Club, NZs longest continuous rugby-playing club. What’s more, regardless of the weather, she can still be seen on the sidelines watching games practically every Saturday and invariably puts in an appearance in the Club’s Isherwood Lounge afterward. She is certainly what could be described as a true rugby lover and worker for the game, rugby tragic is what some label it!. I would go so far as saying she is the female equivalent of Sir Bee Gee.

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      Kiwiwomble
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      @Higgins said in NZR review:

      @Bovidae said in NZR review:

      Erin Rush is the mother of Stanley Solomon.

      https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-events/latest-news/new-zealand-rugby-welcomes-new-president-and-vice-president

      She is also a Life Member of my Wellington Football Club, NZs longest continuous rugby-playing club.

      I think thats up for debate isn't it? whist the club existed during the war years they didn't actually field a team, Dunedin RFC founded only a year later has fielded a mens team every year....something for another thread

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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

        @Higgins said in NZR review:

        @Bovidae said in NZR review:

        Erin Rush is the mother of Stanley Solomon.

        https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-events/latest-news/new-zealand-rugby-welcomes-new-president-and-vice-president

        She is also a Life Member of my Wellington Football Club, NZs longest continuous rugby-playing club.

        I think thats up for debate isn't it? whist the club existed during the war years they didn't actually field a team, Dunedin RFC founded only a year later has fielded a mens team every year....something for another thread

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        #708

        @Kiwiwomble The Wellington Football Club played it's first game using the rules of rugby in 1870 and records indicate they have fielded teams playing under the rules of rugby in every year since then. You might be confusing them with the Nelson Rugby Football Club (formerly Nelson Football Club) who were founded in 1868 and adopted the rules of rugby in 1870 but did not field teams in their own name during the War years. These two played the first official game between Clubs (as opposed to School teams) at Petone on 12 September 1870, Nelson prevailing 2 - 1!

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        • HigginsH Higgins

          @Kiwiwomble The Wellington Football Club played it's first game using the rules of rugby in 1870 and records indicate they have fielded teams playing under the rules of rugby in every year since then. You might be confusing them with the Nelson Rugby Football Club (formerly Nelson Football Club) who were founded in 1868 and adopted the rules of rugby in 1870 but did not field teams in their own name during the War years. These two played the first official game between Clubs (as opposed to School teams) at Petone on 12 September 1870, Nelson prevailing 2 - 1!

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          Kiwiwomble
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          @Higgins said in NZR review:

          @Kiwiwomble The Wellington Football Club played it's first game using the rules of rugby in 1870 and records indicate they have fielded teams playing under the rules of rugby in every year since then. You might be confusing them with the Nelson Rugby Football Club (formerly Nelson Football Club) who were founded in 1868 and adopted the rules of rugby in 1870 but did not field teams in their own name during the War years. These two played the first official game between Clubs (as opposed to School teams) at Petone on 12 September 1870, Nelson prevailing 2 - 1!

          Maybe, I know Dunedin RFC have claimed to be the oldest "continuous" club in NZ, i have a commemorative jerseys with it embroidered on it, maybe thats something there was confusion about in the past and has since been cleared up

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            So it's settled thank god for that! Everyone seems to of given a little.
            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350405896/new-zealand-rugby-stakeholders-announce-end-governance-saga-warring-parties

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            • Dan54D Dan54

              So it's settled thank god for that! Everyone seems to of given a little.
              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350405896/new-zealand-rugby-stakeholders-announce-end-governance-saga-warring-parties

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              @Dan54 that's looking good!!

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              • Dan54D Dan54

                So it's settled thank god for that! Everyone seems to of given a little.
                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350405896/new-zealand-rugby-stakeholders-announce-end-governance-saga-warring-parties

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                Machpants
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                @Dan54 said in NZR review:

                So it's settled thank god for that! Everyone seems to of given a little.
                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350405896/new-zealand-rugby-stakeholders-announce-end-governance-saga-warring-parties

                Good to see the stakeholder board has expanded and Union qualification specified. That will stop the provinces being able to push things through in their own interests

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                • M Machpants

                  @Dan54 said in NZR review:

                  So it's settled thank god for that! Everyone seems to of given a little.
                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350405896/new-zealand-rugby-stakeholders-announce-end-governance-saga-warring-parties

                  Good to see the stakeholder board has expanded and Union qualification specified. That will stop the provinces being able to push things through in their own interests

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                  @Machpants yep think it balances out. I always want provinces to have an input, as they are who run rugby in their aeras, but like it to be balanced with need to remember it is a professional game.

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                    Having that settled is good, but only if the new board and management can make hard decisions.

                    As the discussion in the crowd thread shows, the way forward looks reasonably clear (our NPC-centric and non-NPC centric posters seem to align on the 8-10 team in converged Super/NPC competition idea).

                    I'm interested to see whether NZRU can get there. I won't hold my breath.

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      Having that settled is good, but only if the new board and management can make hard decisions.

                      As the discussion in the crowd thread shows, the way forward looks reasonably clear (our NPC-centric and non-NPC centric posters seem to align on the 8-10 team in converged Super/NPC competition idea).

                      I'm interested to see whether NZRU can get there. I won't hold my breath.

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                      #715

                      @gt12 said in NZR review:

                      Having that settled is good, but only if the new board and management can make hard decisions.

                      As the discussion in the crowd thread shows, the way forward looks reasonably clear (our NPC-centric and non-NPC centric posters seem to align on the 8-10 team in converged Super/NPC competition idea).

                      I'm interested to see whether NZRU can get there. I won't hold my breath.

                      Realistically we will see no great changes to anything for a year or 2, I would imagine , or even want. It's only the board that runs things, and regardless of what we think/say in general there only needs to be tweeks to how the game is run at board level. Most fof it will be perhaps more commercial, and that all takes time stc.

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                        Graham Mourie has been appointed as the independent chair of the new 9-member stakeholder panel.

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                          Bovidae
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                          https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-events/latest-news/nzr-chair-dame-patsy-reddy-confirms-decision-not-to-reapply-for-the-nzr-board

                          Dame Patsy and Dame Farah Palmer, who is due to rotate off the NZR Board, will work in conjunction with the Stakeholder Panel to establish the six-person Appointments and Remunerations Panel (ARP). They will be joined by current NZR President Matthew Cooper, whose role sits separate from the Board.

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                            Machpants
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                            Stuck to her guns

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                              Bovidae
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                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360513294/nz-rugby-board-members-ajit-balasingham-and-wayne-young-snubbed-interview-process

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                                Let's see how good the new people are, if the incumbents aren't rated in the top 25 % of applicants, it could simply be a reflection on the lack of quality on the current board.

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                                  Alternatively, this could be good politics, if these come with baggage from the previous board, it's probably better for them to not be there and for the board to start with a clean slate.

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                                    100+ applicants into 9 does rather leave some winnowing required.

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                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/new-zealand-rugbys-next-sky-broadcast-deal-will-see-them-suffer-big-loss-gregor-paul/5P4T44AAPFHKRJCFLGO6OMCAQY/

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                                        Machpants
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                                        For those without access
                                        https://archive.ph/nxZ9N

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                                          For those without access
                                          https://archive.ph/nxZ9N

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                                          @Machpants Nations Championship to save the day?

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