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RWC Week 1: France v All Blacks

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  • canefanC canefan

    @Machpants said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @Machpants said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    My wife was asking why we were playing the entire second half in our half.

    Did she ask why we are doing these little kicks

    Yes

    You don't have to be an expert to see we shat the bed

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    @canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @Machpants said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @Machpants said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    My wife was asking why we were playing the entire second half in our half.

    Did she ask why we are doing these little kicks

    Yes

    You don't have to be an expert to see we shat the bed

    But anyone with rugby nous can see we were coming second at the ruck so trying to carry down the field was an act of madness. Kicking in behind an offside defensive line can create a contest at worst and time and space at best.

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    • TimT Tim

      This game really underlined how bad Ryan is. He keeps selecting awful players like Cody Taylor at the expense of genuinely good forwards. Vaa'i would make no other squad.

      NZ rugby is rotten.

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      @Tim said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

      This game really underlined how bad Ryan is. He keeps selecting awful players like Cody Taylor at the expense of genuinely good forwards. Vaa'i would make no other squad.

      NZ rugby is rotten.

      Sounds like time to change allegiances, do you have an Irish grandmother or something

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      • TordahT Tordah

        I don't get all that negativity.

        In the first half, the kicking out of hand was some of the best I've seen from not only the ABs in the last few years. Beaudy was punting them so far, I wondered why he doesn't do that more often. There was some nice attacking plays with only some of the last passes not sticking, ABs should really have led by a few points. After the first half I was quietly confident.

        Of course, the second half wasn't great, France got a lot better and ABs a lot worse, thought France got the rub of the ref with some breakdown turnovers, and that 2nd Jordan penalty was bullshit - either it's a clear card for taking the man out or the Frenchies get pinged for impeding Jordan. Anyways, those didn't decide the game. As soon as Aaron Smith was subbed off, I knew the game was gone, not that Smith had a fantastic game or anything, but when I saw Christie being subbed on I just thought there's no way they're mounting a comeback.

        I don't think France looked hugely impressive, it was a bit similar to the game vs Australia, where I also thought Australia was better in the first half but then there was the second half turnaround. They deserved the win, though.

        If Italy somehow beat France, not getting a losing bonus point could mean ABs don't qualify for the quarters.

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        @Tordah said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

        If Italy somehow beat France, not getting a losing bonus point could mean ABs don't qualify for the quarters.

        France to roll out their B team for that game?

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        • canefanC canefan

          @Machpants said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

          My wife was asking why we were playing the entire second half in our half.

          Did she ask why we are doing these little kicks

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          @canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

          @Machpants said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

          My wife was asking why we were playing the entire second half in our half.

          Did she ask why we are doing these little kicks to the opposition players

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            @canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

            @Machpants said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

            @canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

            @Machpants said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

            My wife was asking why we were playing the entire second half in our half.

            Did she ask why we are doing these little kicks

            Yes

            You don't have to be an expert to see we shat the bed

            But anyone with rugby nous can see we were coming second at the ruck so trying to carry down the field was an act of madness. Kicking in behind an offside defensive line can create a contest at worst and time and space at best.

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            stodders
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            @antipodean was the French defence offside by much? Was it visible at the ground (always difficult to judge on TV)?

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              @Steve said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

              @BerniesCorner said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

              The thing is we have some pretty good players

              Disagree.

              We lack depth in a whole raft of areas - midfield, halfback, lock to name a few. The only area where we seem to have an abundance of talent is 11, 14 & 15 - and after BB & Jordan's performance tonight even that looks pretty thin.

              Look Jordan had a stinker, but he has loads of credit in the bank.

              As I said in a previous thread Beauden Barrett has 113 caps now. HIs first 70 were fairy tale stuff.

              The last 40 or so. Absolute trash.

              He is one of my favourite Allblacks of all time (I've backed him at 100/1 for top try scorer), but he is a massive problem. Not only because he is playing crap, but because accommodating him omits other players we could do with and he gets in Mo'ungas way.

              Get Jordan to fullback and have a power winger in 11 or 14 with Telea on the opposite side.

              Imagine calling for Jordan to take on further responsibility after that abject performance.

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              stodders
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              @antipodean did you see much live that was a positive for the ABs? Or was the score difference a fair reflection of the game?

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                Took ~4 years to get JB to 2nd five
                Took ~4 years to get Razor on the job
                Took ~4 years to work out kicking long in your own half is the best option
                Roigard will be starting by 2027

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                • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                  Took ~4 years to get JB to 2nd five
                  Took ~4 years to get Razor on the job
                  Took ~4 years to work out kicking long in your own half is the best option
                  Roigard will be starting by 2027

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                  @BerniesCorner said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

                  Roigard will be starting by 2027

                  Fozzie isn't staying until 2027.

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                    Poetic licence

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      @BerniesCorner said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

                      Roigard will be starting by 2027

                      Fozzie isn't staying until 2027.

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                      @Stargazer said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

                      @BerniesCorner said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

                      Roigard will be starting by 2027

                      Fozzie isn't staying until 2027.

                      Roigard could be starting by 2024

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @Stargazer said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

                        @BerniesCorner said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

                        Roigard will be starting by 2027

                        Fozzie isn't staying until 2027.

                        Roigard could be starting by 2024

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                        @canefan He and Fakatava. It will be interesting who the third halfback is going to be.

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                          Why was A Smith subbed

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                          • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                            Why was A Smith subbed

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                            @BerniesCorner the TV producers needed him to take Dupont out of his pocket 😬. Dupont is a fantastic player, but he wasn’t the best 9 on the pitch last night (until Christie came on).

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                              Is there any chance they are hiding a (edit: new) game plan for the quarters??

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                                Is there any chance they are hiding a (edit: new) game plan for the quarters??

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                                @Frank Yes, a copy of the previous one.

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  @Frank Yes, a copy of the previous one.

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                                  @Stargazer said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

                                  @Frank Yes, a copy of the previous one.

                                  @Frank is in denial.

                                  Give him some comfort and don’t ruin it.

                                  He’ll move through the stages on his own time.

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                                  • gt12G gt12

                                    @Stargazer said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

                                    @Frank Yes, a copy of the previous one.

                                    @Frank is in denial.

                                    Give him some comfort and don’t ruin it.

                                    He’ll move through the stages on his own time.

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                                    @gt12 said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

                                    @Stargazer said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

                                    @Frank Yes, a copy of the previous one.

                                    @Frank is in denial.

                                    Give him some comfort and don’t ruin it.

                                    He’ll move through the stages on his own time.

                                    You clearly haven't been paying attention to what I have been saying about Foster.
                                    Summary - it's not good.

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                                    • gt12G gt12

                                      @Stargazer said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

                                      @Frank Yes, a copy of the previous one.

                                      @Frank is in denial.

                                      Give him some comfort and don’t ruin it.

                                      He’ll move through the stages on his own time.

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                                      stodders
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                                      @gt12 in fairness, few expected the game plan they rolled out for Ireland in the QF in 2019. Then again, few expected the game plan they rolled out in the SF against England either šŸ˜‚

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                                      • canefanC canefan

                                        @Stargazer said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

                                        @BerniesCorner said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

                                        Roigard will be starting by 2027

                                        Fozzie isn't staying until 2027.

                                        Roigard could be starting by 2024

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                                        Nevorian
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                                        @canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

                                        @Stargazer said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

                                        @BerniesCorner said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

                                        Roigard will be starting by 2027

                                        Fozzie isn't staying until 2027.

                                        Roigard could be starting by 2024

                                        End of 2023

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                                        • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                          Why was A Smith subbed

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                                          Nevorian
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                                          @BerniesCorner said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

                                          Why was A Smith subbed

                                          Agree Smith could have played a full 80, why is there always this need to replace the. Halfback?

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