RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland
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@MN5 said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@akan004 may as we’ll go home now then, as SA will likely now be on the other side of the draw from NZ unless Scotland pull off a shock
Not out of the question. Ireland will be pretty fucked after that game.
Ireland have a week off,The Scotland game is not until 8th Oct, They have plenty of time to recover.
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Ireland using clever tactics at the breakdown, regularly putting a guy in front of their jackler on defending rucks, rarely get penalised for it. Boks unlucky. Ireland defended extremely well in their half but were not great with everything else from what I saw (2nd half)
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3 observations:
- Better for us as I think we have a better chance vs Ireland than SA. Ireland strong favourites tho.
- Ireland better all around, but SA blew so many points and only lost by 5. In a rematch (likely final?) SA to win.
- Line between rugby and NFL smaller than ever.
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What a novel idea having winger with a really big boot that can carve off huge chunks of territory..?
@Steven-Harris said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
What a novel idea having winger with a really big boot that can carve off huge chunks of territory..?
Yeah. If only Foster had the smarts to try Jordie on the wing, eh?
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Ireland using clever tactics at the breakdown, regularly putting a guy in front of their jackler on defending rucks, rarely get penalised for it. Boks unlucky. Ireland defended extremely well in their half but were not great with everything else from what I saw (2nd half)
@Tordah yes they certainly push alot of things, quite obviously too, but do so cohesively and consistently that they rarely get pinged
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@stodders said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@akan004 may as we’ll go home now then, as SA will likely now be on the other side of the draw from NZ unless Scotland pull off a shock
Not out of the question. Ireland will be pretty fucked after that game.
@MN5 said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@akan004 may as we’ll go home now then, as SA will likely now be on the other side of the draw from NZ unless Scotland pull off a shock
Not out of the question. Ireland will be pretty fucked after that game.
if they can win from here it will be a great achievement given the amount of quality opponents they will have played
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@Machpants said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
Is that the best pool match of all time?
Off the top of my head I can’t think of a better one for quality of opponents
World number 1 Vs no 2. Yeah never happened before and hopefully won't happen again
Apart from that other time in 2019.
@booboo said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@Machpants said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
Is that the best pool match of all time?
Off the top of my head I can’t think of a better one for quality of opponents
World number 1 Vs no 2. Yeah never happened before and hopefully won't happen again
Apart from that other time in 2019.
Oh I thought that was 1 v 3, old man brain
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Discipline from both teams very good. They play a different game.
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The Kiwi Irish are stars in green.
Why have we struggled?@BerniesCorner said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
The Kiwi Irish are stars in green.
Why have we struggled?Because Ireland thought strategically.
We've conned ourselves into thinking we always have the best players and best systems and would always be ahead of the curve.
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@BerniesCorner said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
The Kiwi Irish are stars in green.
Why have we struggled?Because Ireland thought strategically.
We've conned ourselves into thinking we always have the best players and best systems and would always be ahead of the curve.
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@BerniesCorner said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
The Kiwi Irish are stars in green.
Why have we struggled?Because Ireland thought strategically.
We've conned ourselves into thinking we always have the best players and best systems and would always be ahead of the curve.
c.f. NZ 7s - until we tore up the old system
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The Kiwi Irish are stars in green.
Why have we struggled?@BerniesCorner said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
The Kiwi Irish are stars in green.
Why have we struggled?Because they’ve consistently played together over a long period. Our team chops and changes every two seconds.
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@booboo said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@Machpants said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
Is that the best pool match of all time?
Off the top of my head I can’t think of a better one for quality of opponents
World number 1 Vs no 2. Yeah never happened before and hopefully won't happen again
Apart from that other time in 2019.
Oh I thought that was 1 v 3, old man brain
@Machpants said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@booboo said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@Machpants said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
Is that the best pool match of all time?
Off the top of my head I can’t think of a better one for quality of opponents
World number 1 Vs no 2. Yeah never happened before and hopefully won't happen again
Apart from that other time in 2019.
Oh I thought that was 1 v 3, old man brain
Seems we were #2.
So first time #1 has won in a 1v2 game at a RWC ...
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No country has done professionalism better than Ireland. They’ve gone from a joke of a team in the 1990s to seriously good. Don’t think it’s a flash in the pan either they have well structured development pathways.
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11 of the starters are from Leinster, including 6 of the pack. That type of familiarity will always help.
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3 observations:
- Better for us as I think we have a better chance vs Ireland than SA. Ireland strong favourites tho.
- Ireland better all around, but SA blew so many points and only lost by 5. In a rematch (likely final?) SA to win.
- Line between rugby and NFL smaller than ever.
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@akan004 Nah mate. That wasn’t even a good game. You gonna watch the highlights again in 5 years time? Didn’t think so
@game_film said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@akan004 Nah mate. That wasn’t even a good game. You gonna watch the highlights again in 5 years time? Didn’t think so
What's your idea of a good game? Champagne rugby and twinkle toes? You don't get more attritional than that. Two physical sides going hammer and tongs, an absolute battle that was as attritional as you get.
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@Chris Ireland’s challenge will be how they build again from here. They built up to this game against SA. They’ve scaled this peak. Naturally, most teams will drop after accomplishing that goal.
@stodders said in RWC Week 3: Springboks v Ireland:
@Chris Ireland’s challenge will be how they build again from here. They built up to this game against SA. They’ve scaled this peak. Naturally, most teams will drop after accomplishing that goal.
Ireland will take Scotland,And we will have to have some luck and play out of our skins to get over the top of Ireland.
Not impossible but we have to improve a lot from our last 2 efforts against top teams excluding Namibia.
Sort out our set pieces,Breakdown and fix out our shit house kicking game.
