RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland
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@JayCee was a ruck about phase 14, BR was over the ball, should have ended there, Barnes called away and BR quickly pulled away, so often players keep going when they have won it...the discipline in those 30 odd phases was something rarely seen by this AB side.
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@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
That was quite the telling comment from Foz.
As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.
I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.
@scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.
Thought Foster summed it up well: "A cut and paste attack"
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On sledgers , Coles is my favourite , at least hes funny
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
On sledgers , Coles is my favourite , at least hes funny
That is gold
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On sledgers , Coles is my favourite , at least hes funny
Colesy is up there with Bismark Du Plessis in keeping the old school ethos alive
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On sledgers , Coles is my favourite , at least hes funny
@kiwiinmelb You can take the boy out of Paraparaumu…..
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@scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.
Thought Foster summed it up well: "A cut and paste attack"
@Victor-Meldrew tbf that would have typically worked on our usually passive d and ill-discipline.
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@Victor-Meldrew tbf that would have typically worked on our usually passive d and ill-discipline.
@taniwharugby Fozzie & McLeod playing rope-a-dope?
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@MajorRage there were many Irish passes that looked a little forwards.
Who's the pillock who always says SavAYa?
and TamEYEti Williams@Wairau said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MajorRage there were many Irish passes that looked a little forwards.
Who's the pillock who always says SavAYa?
and TamEYEti WilliamsRupert Cox probably. Has him on the Stan commentary. Idiot has Kal Te Nana effectively correcting him and still he keeps up the SarVayer.
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@scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
That was quite the telling comment from Foz.
As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.
I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.
Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
That was quite the telling comment from Foz.
As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.
I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.
Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?
They were 4 points down
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@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
That was quite the telling comment from Foz.
As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.
I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.
Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?
They were 4 points down
@booboo the last 20 or so phases they looked both farked and devoid of ideas, hate to say it, but exactly how we have often looked in recent years shovelling it left to right.
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@Wairau said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MajorRage there were many Irish passes that looked a little forwards.
Who's the pillock who always says SavAYa?
and TamEYEti WilliamsRupert Cox probably. Has him on the Stan commentary. Idiot has Kal Te Nana effectively correcting him and still he keeps up the SarVayer.
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Wairau said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MajorRage there were many Irish passes that looked a little forwards.
Who's the pillock who always says SavAYa?
and TamEYEti WilliamsRupert Cox probably. Has him on the Stan commentary. Idiot has Kal Te Nana effectively correcting him and still he keeps up the SarVayer.
On Stan if you don’t click on the first option of watch live , scroll down you get the option of nz commentary.
I only recently discovered it myself.
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@taniwharugby Fozzie & McLeod playing rope-a-dope?
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@taniwharugby Fozzie & McLeod playing rope-a-dope?
Fozzie's master plan revealed post RWC: spend 3.5 years systemically eroding over 100 years of rugby mana, lulling our opponents into a false sense of security, and creating massive seige mentality and presenting our team with a huge chip on their shoulders for the push to RWC glory
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@His-Bobness Nice write up, but I've hated the Irish (in a rugby sense) since coulda-doid and their fanbase started turning nasty (I also remember them supporting the Aussies over us in 91 even though the Aussies knocked them out) - add to that their players in front of the ball I highlighted earlier in the thread and of the top 4 teams they are the team I least wanted to win the RWC.
Plus, I had a run in with that prick Irish journo Gallagher on twitter who was being a twat over NZ PIs on twitter.
Plus plus, my Irish ancestry is of the Jewish persuasion, and although they took my Eastern European ancestor in after the odd pogrom or two in the east they still didn't make it a welcoming place for even my Ireland born Jewish ancestor. Which I guess had the benefit of getting to NZ eventually to help colonise my other ancestors.
In saying all that I'll still support them over England.
@Nepia said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@His-Bobness Nice write up, but I've hated the Irish (in a rugby sense) since coulda-doid and their fanbase started turning nasty (I also remember them supporting the Aussies over us in 91 even though the Aussies knocked them out) - add to that their players in front of the ball I highlighted earlier in the thread and of the top 4 teams they are the team I least wanted to win the RWC.
Plus, I had a run in with that prick Irish journo Gallagher on twitter who was being a twat over NZ PIs on twitter.
Plus plus, my Irish ancestry is of the Jewish persuasion, and although they took my Eastern European ancestor in after the odd pogrom or two in the east they still didn't make it a welcoming place for even my Ireland born Jewish ancestor. Which I guess had the benefit of getting to NZ eventually to help colonise my other ancestors.
In saying all that I'll still support them over England.
Having lived in Ireland one thing I found weird was how it’s almost impossible to become Irish. In NZ if you emigrate here and want to make a go of it we treat you as a kiwi fast as. There they are really protective of bring Irish. It’s definitely a country where you could live 60 years and stil be viewed as a foreigner. Despite all their history of emigration themselves.
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@His-Bobness Who is their South African? Please don't say van der Flier
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@His-Bobness Who is their South African? Please don't say van der Flier
Their third hooker herring is south African.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@taniwharugby Fozzie & McLeod playing rope-a-dope?
Fozzie's master plan revealed post RWC: spend 3.5 years systemically eroding over 100 years of rugby mana, lulling our opponents into a false sense of security, and creating massive seige mentality and presenting our team with a huge chip on their shoulders for the push to RWC glory
I was thinking more along the lines of: "We'll fool these buggers into thinking our D is crap and one-dimensional and they won't worry about varying their attack when they next meet us.."
But seriously, I do wonder if Foster & co had noticed something robotic about the Irish attack when chasing a game down and planned for that in their defensive preparation.
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@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@His-Bobness Who is their South African? Please don't say van der Flier
Their third hooker herring is south African.
@Billy-Tell learn something new every day. Thanks!
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@chimoaus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Losing to France was a master stroke, all hail king Fozzie.
Cunning bugger, eh? He's in the Semis and Gaultier isn't.
3 losers in the semis.
England hottest of unbeaten hot hot favourites.
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@chimoaus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Losing to France was a master stroke, all hail king Fozzie.
Cunning bugger, eh? He's in the Semis and Gaultier isn't.
3 losers in the semis.
England hottest of unbeaten hot hot favourites.
Just like us in 2019...
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@No-Quarter They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
They had made good progress down the pitch. The Irish breakdown work was exemplary for the most part in that last stanza and they were getting nearer to the line.
It took incredible discipline for NZ not to cough up the penalty (which would have been kicked to the corner) and patience to wait for opportunities to effect the winning breakdown turnover/penalty.
Ireland didn't think NZ had that patience and discipline. I'll bet a fair number of NZ fans didn't either
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@No-Quarter They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.
They had made good progress down the pitch. The Irish breakdown work was exemplary for the most part in that last stanza and they were getting nearer to the line.
It took incredible discipline for NZ not to cough up the penalty (which would have been kicked to the corner) and patience to wait for opportunities to effect the winning breakdown turnover/penalty.
Ireland didn't think NZ had that patience and discipline. I'll bet a fair number of NZ fans didn't either
That's a fair assessment. Probably more a symptom of their attack lacking any real 'plan B' so once we figured out how to hold them out they ran out of ideas.
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I was thinking more along the lines of: "We'll fool these buggers into thinking our D is crap and one-dimensional and they won't worry about varying their attack when they next meet us.."
But seriously, I do wonder if Foster & co had noticed something robotic about the Irish attack when chasing a game down and planned for that in their defensive preparation.
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I was thinking more along the lines of: "We'll fool these buggers into thinking our D is crap and one-dimensional and they won't worry about varying their attack when they next meet us.."
But seriously, I do wonder if Foster & co had noticed something robotic about the Irish attack when chasing a game down and planned for that in their defensive preparation.
Just heard a soundbite from Coles about the next game. Talked about scores to settle from losing to the Argies recently......
