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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    @Stag said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    I was all for Roiguard being the right back up choice, but some of his early decision making in the last game was a bit concerning

    As opposed to Christie's wonderful decision making?

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    @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    As opposed to Christie's wonderful decision making?

    Nothing wrong with Christie's decision-making. It's just that it's a bit slow....

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    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

      @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

      As opposed to Christie's wonderful decision making?

      Nothing wrong with Christie's decision-making. It's just that it's a bit slow....

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      @Victor-Meldrew against one of the least ponderous defences in world rugby. Good combination 😄

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        Did Christie go up against Roigard in Super Rugby this year? If so, how did they fare against each other?

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        • BonesB Bones

          @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

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          There's a risk in picking Roigard and a risk in not picking Roigard. I think it will be a fine line decision.

          Stop it. There is far les risk in picking Roigard than there is in picking Christie. Only ten morons on Facebook and Foster would pick Christie (and maybe anyone needing to pretend Roigard is a risk because they can't depart the Fozzie defence).

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          @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          There is far les risk in picking Roigard than there is in picking Christie.

          There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.

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            Roigard is a similar kind of player to Conor Murray. Ireland have 2 different style 9s in their 23. If NZ chose Christie, it suggests the ABs have one way of playing. What happens if it doesn't work? Christie isn't exactly going to snipe round the fringe.

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            • S stodders

              @Victor-Meldrew against one of the least ponderous defences in world rugby. Good combination 😄

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              @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              @Victor-Meldrew against one of the least ponderous defences in world rugby. Good combination 😄

              You got my irony. Well done sir!

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              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                There is far les risk in picking Roigard than there is in picking Christie.

                There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.

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                @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                There is far les risk in picking Roigard than there is in picking Christie.

                There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.

                There isn't more risk, you're making it up. What's the risk?

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  There is far les risk in picking Roigard than there is in picking Christie.

                  There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.

                  There isn't more risk, you're making it up. What's the risk?

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                  @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  There is far les risk in picking Roigard than there is in picking Christie.

                  There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.

                  There isn't more risk, you're making it up. What's the risk?

                  In Christies case maybe sunburn even at this time of year ?

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                    Roigard is a similar kind of player to Conor Murray. Ireland have 2 different style 9s in their 23. If NZ chose Christie, it suggests the ABs have one way of playing. What happens if it doesn't work? Christie isn't exactly going to snipe round the fringe.

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                    @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    Roigard is a similar kind of player to Conor Murray

                    That's an even more bizarre take than there's less risk picking Christie.

                    They are streets apart.

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                    • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                      @Stag said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      I was all for Roiguard being the right back up choice, but some of his early decision making in the last game was a bit concerning

                      From memory, he did seem to run when the pass was probably the better option a few times I thought

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                      @kiwiinmelb said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      @Stag said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      I was all for Roiguard being the right back up choice, but some of his early decision making in the last game was a bit concerning

                      From memory, he did seem to run when the pass was probably the better option a few times I thought

                      But I liked the way he handled his little period of yips - thought that showed a lot of maturity and composure. And I'd prefer his speed of decision making over Christie any day.

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                        It’s been a looooong week

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                          Roigard is a similar kind of player to Conor Murray. Ireland have 2 different style 9s in their 23. If NZ chose Christie, it suggests the ABs have one way of playing. What happens if it doesn't work? Christie isn't exactly going to snipe round the fringe.

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                          @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          Christie isn't exactly going to snipe round the fringe.

                          Exactly. Roigard offers more overall than Christie in my book. He may not have come on in a tight game but he's worth that risk.

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                            Christie is more liable to shit the bed than Roigard. Imagine if Smith got injured early and we had to watch any attack disappear, for the hope he might make one decent tackle.

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                              Perhaps there’s a different way of looking at this (the Foster way)

                              Foster obviously believes he can select the best 23 to beat Ireland

                              The crux of this conundrum is will NZ be defending a lead or chasing the game?

                              If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie

                              If you’re chasing the game, then it’s Smith- Roigard

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                              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                Perhaps there’s a different way of looking at this (the Foster way)

                                Foster obviously believes he can select the best 23 to beat Ireland

                                The crux of this conundrum is will NZ be defending a lead or chasing the game?

                                If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie

                                If you’re chasing the game, then it’s Smith- Roigard

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                                @MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie

                                Why?

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                                  @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                  Christie isn't exactly going to snipe round the fringe.

                                  Exactly. Roigard offers more overall than Christie in my book. He may not have come on in a tight game but he's worth that risk.

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew Christie's performance stats this year don't even come close to Roigard's. Yes Roigard had a few blips in his last outing but that's all character building. He's been a far more consistent player all year and he has shown that his ceiling is, and will continue to be far higher that Christie's.

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                                    Crazy that 90% of the talk is about the bench nine. Fozzie at least has a settled XV (injuries aside) whether you agree with it or not Ahem Beaudy

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie

                                      Why?

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                                      @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie

                                      Why?

                                      Because Christie is “experienced”

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                        @MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                        If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie

                                        Why?

                                        Because Christie is “experienced”

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                                        @MN5 experienced at being shit. Like he doesn't even look like a test halfback when he plays for the Blues.

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                                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                          Perhaps there’s a different way of looking at this (the Foster way)

                                          Foster obviously believes he can select the best 23 to beat Ireland

                                          The crux of this conundrum is will NZ be defending a lead or chasing the game?

                                          If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie

                                          If you’re chasing the game, then it’s Smith- Roigard

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                                          @MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          Perhaps there’s a different way of looking at this (the Foster way)

                                          Foster obviously believes he can select the best 23 to beat Ireland

                                          The crux of this conundrum is will NZ be defending a lead or chasing the game?

                                          If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie

                                          If you’re chasing the game, then it’s Smith- Roigard

                                          ABs don't generally defend leads, they still try and attack ergo Roigard all the time. Christies fringe defence can be good, but meh, that's not his main job

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