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RWC SF: England v Springboks

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  • S stodders

    @Billy-Webb He'll be watching the review of the France game and pinging the Boks all night at the breakdown 😉

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    @stodders

    Yeah... that's what worries me. An over-correction.
    But to be honest, I expect him to be better than that.

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      @stodders

      Yeah... that's what worries me. An over-correction.
      But to be honest, I expect him to be better than that.

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      @Billy-Webb said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

      @stodders

      Yeah... that's what worries me. An over-correction.
      But to be honest, I expect him to hope he'll be better than that.

      FIFY

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        @stodders

        Yeah... that's what worries me. An over-correction.
        But to be honest, I expect him to be better than that.

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        @Billy-Webb said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

        @stodders

        Yeah... that's what worries me. An over-correction.
        But to be honest, I expect him to hope he won't be better than that.

        FIFY

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          Was trying to work out what would have to happen during the game for me to think we have a chance, I think the Boks will have to lose two loose head props early in the game, preferably to red cards, then Eben & PSDT to reds, then for Kolbe to pull a hamstring

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          • DodgeD Dodge

            Was trying to work out what would have to happen during the game for me to think we have a chance, I think the Boks will have to lose two loose head props early in the game, preferably to red cards, then Eben & PSDT to reds, then for Kolbe to pull a hamstring

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            @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

            Was trying to work out what would have to happen during the game for me to think we have a chance, I think the Boks will have to lose two loose head props early in the game, preferably to red cards, then Eben & PSDT to reds, then for Kolbe to pull a hamstring

            And then it'll still be close

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            • DodgeD Dodge

              Was trying to work out what would have to happen during the game for me to think we have a chance, I think the Boks will have to lose two loose head props early in the game, preferably to red cards, then Eben & PSDT to reds, then for Kolbe to pull a hamstring

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              @Dodge a red card will give you a chance. It'll at least keep the score down 😄

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                Going to this one too

                Can't see anything but an England hammering

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                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                  Going to this one too

                  Can't see anything but an England hammering

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                  @MiketheSnow Stranger things have happened. I mean, Greece won the Euros in 2004 FFS!

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                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                    Going to this one too

                    Can't see anything but an England hammering

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                    @MiketheSnow Did you think Wales were going to finish 2nd in their pool? 😉

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                    • DodgeD Dodge

                      Was trying to work out what would have to happen during the game for me to think we have a chance, I think the Boks will have to lose two loose head props early in the game, preferably to red cards, then Eben & PSDT to reds, then for Kolbe to pull a hamstring

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                      @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                      Was trying to work out what would have to happen during the game for me to think we have a chance, I think the Boks will have to lose two loose head props early in the game, preferably to red cards, then Eben & PSDT to reds, then for Kolbe to pull a hamstring

                      So we sneak a draw and go through on tries score? (1xpt)?

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                        even with a 4 man advantage and a hobbling winger we'd fuck up an overlap

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                          2 SH refs for the semis then. They know.

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                          • DodgeD Dodge

                            even with a 4 man advantage and a hobbling winger we'd fuck up an overlap

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                            @Dodge according to the Walrus, England need to unleash their inner France and take it to the Boks to help the tournament recover from losing the amazing French team (that couldn't catch a ball on Sunday).

                            Even Woodward's Harlem Globe Trotters wouldn't have tried doing that!

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                              England have a pack that can compete in grunt stakes. A decent stable of props, hookers and second rows.

                              The back row of Lawes, Curry and Earl is full of mongrel.

                              It is in the backline where concerns are raised, because even if the forwards get (near) parity in their battle with the Boks, what the hell are the backs going to do with it?

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                                Surely Freddie Steward has to come back as he is England's best high kick receiver, which means the boy wonder drops to the bench or out of the 23 altogether (if Ford is retained on the bench).

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                                • S stodders

                                  @MiketheSnow Did you think Wales were going to finish 2nd in their pool? 😉

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                                  @stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                  @MiketheSnow Did you think Wales were going to finish 2nd in their pool? 😉

                                  TBH yes

                                  Oz first, us second

                                  Us to beat England in the QF

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                                  • S stodders

                                    Surely Freddie Steward has to come back as he is England's best high kick receiver, which means the boy wonder drops to the bench or out of the 23 altogether (if Ford is retained on the bench).

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                                    @stodders Yeah, they’ll need him there. Maybe play him at 14. Keep Smith at 15 and just run him at flailing arms all night.

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                                    • DodgeD Dodge

                                      even with a 4 man advantage and a hobbling winger we'd fuck up an overlap

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                                      @Dodge said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:

                                      even with a 4 man advantage and a hobbling winger we'd fuck up an overlap

                                      A moot point as by the time the scrum half has waited for the requisite number of pods to get into position, the overlap has gone.

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                                      • S stodders

                                        England have a pack that can compete in grunt stakes. A decent stable of props, hookers and second rows.

                                        The back row of Lawes, Curry and Earl is full of mongrel.

                                        It is in the backline where concerns are raised, because even if the forwards get (near) parity in their battle with the Boks, what the hell are the backs going to do with it?

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                                        @stodders

                                        Our props aren’t that good. Genge a good rather than great scrummager but a mongrel around the park. Sinckler an ok scrummager, good hands and a good carrier. Marler is just vanilla these days outside of his after match comments. Cole can scrum but is glacial around the park. Rodd and Stewart are not up to the job in any department.

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                                          Although I generally like the Springboks, I would enjoy the most if England hammer them like they did the ABs in 2019 and then go down in a whimper to the ABs in the final, again as in 2019 only it was to the Boks. If Argentina win the semi, I want the Boks to win and then win the final too. Argentina always with the soccer theatrics, don't like them

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