RWC SF: England v Springboks
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@stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@booboo I know a fair few Bok fans. Pretty level headed for the most part. Patriotic, love their team and have confidence in them.
Every country has their fair share of dickheads. SA is no different.
What sometimes sounds like arrogance is IMO bravado - deep down, there is fear. The Boks are an escape for many in SA; a chance to escape the corruption, the decay, the harshness of life that is for many no fault of their own. They are a team their supporters believe in and that unity is powerful.
Do they have a great team currently? Yes. Do they go overboard at times? Yep. But when life throws you lemons, sometimes your sporting teams are all you have left to cling to.
Great post.
@Billy-Webb said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@stodders said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@booboo I know a fair few Bok fans. Pretty level headed for the most part. Patriotic, love their team and have confidence in them.
Every country has their fair share of dickheads. SA is no different.
What sometimes sounds like arrogance is IMO bravado - deep down, there is fear. The Boks are an escape for many in SA; a chance to escape the corruption, the decay, the harshness of life that is for many no fault of their own. They are a team their supporters believe in and that unity is powerful.
Do they have a great team currently? Yes. Do they go overboard at times? Yep. But when life throws you lemons, sometimes your sporting teams are all you have left to cling to.
Great post.
Being wusses is no excuse for being arseholes.
(Present company excepted.)
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No change for the boks
South Africa team to face England
Damian Willemse; Kurt-Lee Arendse, Jesse Kriel, Damian de Allende, Cheslin Kolbe; Manie Libbok, Cobus Reinach; Steven Kitshoff, Mbongeni Mbonambi, Frans Malherbe; Eben Etzebeth, Franco Mostert; Siya Kolisi (c), Pieter-Steph du Toit, Duane Vermeulen.
Replacements: Deon Fourie, Ox Nche, Vincent Koch, RG Snyman, Kwagga Smith, Faf de Klerk, Handré Pollard, Willie Le Roux@Machpants said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
No change for the boks
South Africa team to face England
Damian Willemse; Kurt-Lee Arendse, Jesse Kriel, Damian de Allende, Cheslin Kolbe; Manie Libbok, Cobus Reinach; Steven Kitshoff, Mbongeni Mbonambi, Frans Malherbe; Eben Etzebeth, Franco Mostert; Siya Kolisi (c), Pieter-Steph du Toit, Duane Vermeulen.
Replacements: Deon Fourie, Ox Nche, Vincent Koch, RG Snyman, Kwagga Smith, Faf de Klerk, Handré Pollard, Willie Le RouxHave to say I am really surprised by the team selection for 2 key reasons:
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That team had to dig really deep against the French and psychologically I worry that they can get up to that level again so soon.
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There must be a fatigue element from that last game.
For both of the above, I would have gone with a fair few fresh faces who IMO wouldn't be inferior to the selected incumbents. Physically and Psychologically I just think they would be better options on the day.
But then that is based on my ZERO years of international coaching experience - so what do I know...
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@Machpants said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
No change for the boks
South Africa team to face England
Damian Willemse; Kurt-Lee Arendse, Jesse Kriel, Damian de Allende, Cheslin Kolbe; Manie Libbok, Cobus Reinach; Steven Kitshoff, Mbongeni Mbonambi, Frans Malherbe; Eben Etzebeth, Franco Mostert; Siya Kolisi (c), Pieter-Steph du Toit, Duane Vermeulen.
Replacements: Deon Fourie, Ox Nche, Vincent Koch, RG Snyman, Kwagga Smith, Faf de Klerk, Handré Pollard, Willie Le RouxHave to say I am really surprised by the team selection for 2 key reasons:
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That team had to dig really deep against the French and psychologically I worry that they can get up to that level again so soon.
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There must be a fatigue element from that last game.
For both of the above, I would have gone with a fair few fresh faces who IMO wouldn't be inferior to the selected incumbents. Physically and Psychologically I just think they would be better options on the day.
But then that is based on my ZERO years of international coaching experience - so what do I know...
@Billy-Webb maybe they're banking on an easy final...
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Hey Seffrican peeps (even though I hope you lose and have posted such elsewhere) how do you pronounce RG as in Snyman?
Commentator on the world feed (Rupert Cox I think) was giving it the gutteral treatment, but I couldn't really pick up what it was.
I see "RG" and prounoce "Aah" "Jee".
Can you give us a English speaking guide?
Thanks.
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Yeah... that's what worries me. An over-correction.
But to be honest, I expect him to be better than that.@Billy-Webb said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
Yeah... that's what worries me. An over-correction.
But to be honest, I expect him to be better than that.you expect him to be better than what you expect him to be?
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England have named their team.
No real pace in the back line.
Again.
I really fear what the two Saffa wingers will do to us. They are both electric.
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Hey Seffrican peeps (even though I hope you lose and have posted such elsewhere) how do you pronounce RG as in Snyman?
Commentator on the world feed (Rupert Cox I think) was giving it the gutteral treatment, but I couldn't really pick up what it was.
I see "RG" and prounoce "Aah" "Jee".
Can you give us a English speaking guide?
Thanks.
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No real pace in the back line.
Again.
I really fear what the two Saffa wingers will do to us. They are both electric.
@Catogrande said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
No real pace in the back line.
Again.
I really fear what the two Saffa wingers will do to us. They are both electric.
on the field or on the bench. Embarrassing.
Marchant and Earl probably our quickest players...
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@booboo the Afrikaans "G" doesnt exist in English. Neither does the R come to think of it.
@SidBarret said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@booboo the Afrikaans "G" doesnt exist in English. Neither does the R come to think of it.
Any chance of making some phonetic equivalent?
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@Catogrande said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
No real pace in the back line.
Again.
I really fear what the two Saffa wingers will do to us. They are both electric.
on the field or on the bench. Embarrassing.
Marchant and Earl probably our quickest players...
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@Dodge @Catogrande Weird that Arundell doesn’t get a nod at all.
@sparky said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@Dodge @Catogrande Weird that Arundell doesn’t get a nod at all.
It’s Farrell’s ball
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@SidBarret said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@booboo the Afrikaans "G" doesnt exist in English. Neither does the R come to think of it.
Any chance of making some phonetic equivalent?
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No real pace in the back line.
Again.
I really fear what the two Saffa wingers will do to us. They are both electric.
@Catogrande can't do much from all accounts if you don't drop the ball
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@SidBarret said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@booboo the Afrikaans "G" doesnt exist in English. Neither does the R come to think of it.
Any chance of making some phonetic equivalent?
@booboo said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@SidBarret said in RWC SF: England v Springboks:
@booboo the Afrikaans "G" doesnt exist in English. Neither does the R come to think of it.
Any chance of making some phonetic equivalent?
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Anyways back to topic. Coaching team has rotated the players well and most of the players has played less than what the Irish did.
I really don't think fatigue will play a part. The medical team would've pulled that player if they thought he was not fit to play.
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Minutes played by England and South Africa squads in this World Cup so far:
https://x.com/rpetty80/status/1714949409639747959?s=46&t=Xyr9rqvpyxuZ6mu4OxMcYA
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A better graphic showing the SF squads by position
https://x.com/analystgus/status/1714966442439790815?s=46&t=Xyr9rqvpyxuZ6mu4OxMcYA
