All Blacks 2024.. locked
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
So I ask the question. At his best what does Perofera bring to the All Black equation?
At his best he plays flat to the line and challenges the line which opens up space around him. He has good footwork to jink through creases. His offloading and passing game at the line at his best is good too.
I'd say Cruden-lite.
Stink
Yeah be a bit shit to have someone who could potentially play like a world cup winning ten.
Hopefully we get McCaw-lite, Carter-lite and some good old Nonu-lite as well then
With Jesus-lite coaching, the sky is the limit. Unless heaven-lite is above the sky?
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
So I ask the question. At his best what does Perofera bring to the All Black equation?
At his best he plays flat to the line and challenges the line which opens up space around him. He has good footwork to jink through creases. His offloading and passing game at the line at his best is good too.
I'd say Cruden-lite.
Stink
Yeah be a bit shit to have someone who could potentially play like a world cup winning ten.
Hopefully we get McCaw-lite, Carter-lite and some good old Nonu-lite as well then
With Jesus-lite coaching, the sky is the limit. Unless heaven-lire is above the sky?
I can't wait to see what he does with Christie passing to DMac at five-eighth, McLeod in the centres and Jordan at fullback. You know, the team that stank against the Wallabies in Dunedin...
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
So I ask the question. At his best what does Perofera bring to the All Black equation?
At his best he plays flat to the line and challenges the line which opens up space around him. He has good footwork to jink through creases. His offloading and passing game at the line at his best is good too.
I'd say Cruden-lite.
Stink
Yeah be a bit shit to have someone who could potentially play like a world cup winning ten.
Hopefully we get McCaw-lite, Carter-lite and some good old Nonu-lite as well then
With Jesus-lite coaching, the sky is the limit. Unless heaven-lire is above the sky?
I can't wait to see what he does with Christie passing to DMac at five-eighth, McLeod in the centres and Jordan at fullback. You know, the team that stank against the Wallabies in Dunedin...
@antipodean first rule of Jesus-lite is no blues.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
So I ask the question. At his best what does Perofera bring to the All Black equation?
At his best he plays flat to the line and challenges the line which opens up space around him. He has good footwork to jink through creases. His offloading and passing game at the line at his best is good too.
I'd say Cruden-lite.
Stink
Yeah be a bit shit to have someone who could potentially play like a world cup winning ten.
Hopefully we get McCaw-lite, Carter-lite and some good old Nonu-lite as well then
With Jesus-lite coaching, the sky is the limit. Unless heaven-lire is above the sky?
I can't wait to see what he does with Christie passing to DMac at five-eighth, McLeod in the centres and Jordan at fullback. You know, the team that stank against the Wallabies in Dunedin...
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:
I can't wait to see what he does with Christie passing to DMac at five-eighth
If Christie is in Robertson's sights and gets picked, the Fern will go into meltdown. I might just invest in popcorn futures.
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Johnny Sexton was running the cutter for Ireland at 37 yo so I guess the NZRFU thought BB could do the same for the ABs.
@cgrant said in All Blacks 2024:
Johnny Sexton was running the cutter for Ireland at 37 yo so I guess the NZRFU thought BB could do the same for the ABs.
Sounds about right, they wouldn't consider their skillset at their best were opposite ends of the spectrum.
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I honestly think when we looking at halfbacks, I know Roigard will be top of list, and when we talk about the Fakatavas, Christie,Ratima etc, I would definitely throw another name in the ring.
I have a sneaky feeling young Hotham from Mako'Crusaders may just put hiw hand up with a proper season of super under his cap? I do seriously like the look of this kid and can see him jumping a few of the aforementioned players.Mind you I could be barking up wrong tree, and quite prepared for a few of you to call me a dreamer etc.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:
I can't wait to see what he does with Christie passing to DMac at five-eighth
If Christie is in Robertson's sights and gets picked, the Fern will go into meltdown. I might just invest in popcorn futures.
@Victor-Meldrew well Christie is likely to be an option, if only because McDonald rates him.
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@Victor-Meldrew well Christie is likely to be an option, if only because McDonald rates him.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:
@Victor-Meldrew well Christie is likely to be an option, if only because McDonald rates him.
Might see Perofeta and Christie then.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:
I can't wait to see what he does with Christie passing to DMac at five-eighth
If Christie is in Robertson's sights and gets picked, the Fern will go into meltdown. I might just invest in popcorn futures.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:
I can't wait to see what he does with Christie passing to DMac at five-eighth
If Christie is in Robertson's sights and gets picked, the Fern will go into meltdown. I might just invest in popcorn futures.
Hopefully David Havilli is first choice at second five too, they definitely need a change after Jordies physical presence, directness and all round skill set.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:
I can't wait to see what he does with Christie passing to DMac at five-eighth
If Christie is in Robertson's sights and gets picked, the Fern will go into meltdown. I might just invest in popcorn futures.
Hopefully David Havilli is first choice at second five too, they definitely need a change after Jordies physical presence, directness and all round skill set.
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:
I can't wait to see what he does with Christie passing to DMac at five-eighth
If Christie is in Robertson's sights and gets picked, the Fern will go into meltdown. I might just invest in popcorn futures.
Hopefully David Havilli is first choice at second five too, they definitely need a change after Jordies physical presence, directness and all round skill set.
On a serious note, hoping Robertson does some equally serious work around the midfield.
Jordie's currently a serviceable, solid 12 who's starting to work well with Reiko but there's a lot of room for improvement/development. Sure, Foster was hit by injuries, but we need to get some options at 12/13 other than Havilli/ALB - luckily there's time and space to do that.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:
I can't wait to see what he does with Christie passing to DMac at five-eighth
If Christie is in Robertson's sights and gets picked, the Fern will go into meltdown. I might just invest in popcorn futures.
Hopefully David Havilli is first choice at second five too, they definitely need a change after Jordies physical presence, directness and all round skill set.
On a serious note, hoping Robertson does some equally serious work around the midfield.
Jordie's currently a serviceable, solid 12 who's starting to work well with Reiko but there's a lot of room for improvement/development. Sure, Foster was hit by injuries, but we need to get some options at 12/13 other than Havilli/ALB - luckily there's time and space to do that.
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I'll take anyone at 10 who can do the basics right (kick, pass, defend). If that's Gardenvariety-Bachop or Gatland then whatever. Plenty of talent to do the fancy shit outside of him.
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I'll take anyone at 10 who can do the basics right (kick, pass, defend). If that's Gardenvariety-Bachop or Gatland then whatever. Plenty of talent to do the fancy shit outside of him.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2024:
I'll take anyone at 10 who can do the basics right (kick, pass, defend). If that's Gardenvariety-Bachop or Gatland then whatever. Plenty of talent to do the fancy shit outside of him.
You lost me at Garden-Bachop
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@Victor-Meldrew be nice if Robertson gives guys a chance which is more than forty minutes or so and then discarded, on a consistent basis.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@Victor-Meldrew be nice if Robertson gives guys a chance which is more than forty minutes or so and then discarded, on a consistent basis.
Be nice if the AB midfield injury curse didn't rear its ugly head as well. There's a pretty decent core team, minimal pressure as a new coach, so plenty of opportunity and time to develop players
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2024:
I'll take anyone at 10 who can do the basics right (kick, pass, defend). If that's Gardenvariety-Bachop or Gatland then whatever. Plenty of talent to do the fancy shit outside of him.
You lost me at Garden-Bachop
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2024:
I'll take anyone at 10 who can do the basics right (kick, pass, defend). If that's Gardenvariety-Bachop or Gatland then whatever. Plenty of talent to do the fancy shit outside of him.
You lost me at Garden-Bachop
Jesus, I said if.
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@cgrant said in All Blacks 2024:
Is Tavatavanawai eligible ?
Probably from 2024.
He first came to NZ to play club rugby in 2017, but probably didn't spent enough time in NZ to make that year count towards his residency period (he still participated in tournaments in Fiji, in rugby and athletics) and played outside NZ for Fiji U20s twice (Oceania U20s and WR U20 Trophy). Possibly the same is the case for 2018.
He first played NPC for Ta$man in 2021, but assuming he spent enough time in NZ from 2019 (he played club rugby), those years probably do count towards his residency period. So counting from 2019, that's 5 years (at the end of this year).
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:
I can't wait to see what he does with Christie passing to DMac at five-eighth
If Christie is in Robertson's sights and gets picked, the Fern will go into meltdown. I might just invest in popcorn futures.
Hopefully David Havilli is first choice at second five too, they definitely need a change after Jordies physical presence, directness and all round skill set.
On a serious note, hoping Robertson does some equally serious work around the midfield.
Jordie's currently a serviceable, solid 12 who's starting to work well with Reiko but there's a lot of room for improvement/development. Sure, Foster was hit by injuries, but we need to get some options at 12/13 other than Havilli/ALB - luckily there's time and space to do that.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:
I can't wait to see what he does with Christie passing to DMac at five-eighth
If Christie is in Robertson's sights and gets picked, the Fern will go into meltdown. I might just invest in popcorn futures.
Hopefully David Havilli is first choice at second five too, they definitely need a change after Jordies physical presence, directness and all round skill set.
On a serious note, hoping Robertson does some equally serious work around the midfield.
Jordie's currently a serviceable, solid 12 who's starting to work well with Reiko but there's a lot of room for improvement/development. Sure, Foster was hit by injuries, but we need to get some options at 12/13 other than Havilli/ALB - luckily there's time and space to do that.
Riley Higgins for me is that guy. I’ve already said on a few occasions that he will be our 2nd five long term and will surpass Jordie if he gets enough opportunity. He’s shown the ability to get over the advantage line with his size but he’s also got a high rugby IQ and knows how to put other guys into space. Just needs more of a chance to show his quality at the next level. If he gets more chance at 12 or 13 look for him to have a season like Roigard did this year, even at such a raw age.
Jordie on the other hand has all the qualities to be a superb 12 for us but he’s renowned for making poor decisions when the pressure really ramps up, definitely not a natural 12.
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It's been a while since I have seen Higgins play, but I think I recall thinking he lacked a little pace. So assuming he doesn't have two left feet maybe 12 might be a better fit long term.
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It's been a while since I have seen Higgins play, but I think I recall thinking he lacked a little pace. So assuming he doesn't have two left feet maybe 12 might be a better fit long term.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:
It's been a while since I have seen Higgins play, but I think I recall thinking he lacked a little pace. So assuming he doesn't have two left feet maybe 12 might be a better fit long term.
Well I only saw him used on the wing for Welly this year and was surprised to see him there, especially after how talked up he gets, that he couldn't even get selected in the midfield.
