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  • canefanC canefan

    The temptation for a new coach is to miss lessons learned (not gonna use the other stupid word) during the previous tenure in the rush to stamp their own mark. If he's taking the time to debrief the senior players that is a good sign to me

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    The temptation for a new coach is to miss lessons learned (not gonna use the other stupid word) during the previous tenure in the rush to stamp their own mark. If he's taking the time to debrief the senior players that is a good sign to me

    im sure its been done before. i would be more surprised if they didnt

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      A bit of a fluff piece, but he spoke really well. And really hit on some points - gotta embrace modern sports engagement, you’re a public figure and you will be judged. Also ‘there’s a percentage against your name’. Stuff that has not been talked about previously, but really needs to be (trying not to Foster moan!)

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        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-debutants-in-2024/

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        • canefanC canefan

          The temptation for a new coach is to miss lessons learned (not gonna use the other stupid word) during the previous tenure in the rush to stamp their own mark. If he's taking the time to debrief the senior players that is a good sign to me

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          @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

          The temptation for a new coach is to miss lessons learned (not gonna use the other stupid word)

          Learnings lessened? (Was trying to type lessoned but autocorrect came up with something more apt.

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            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-debutants-in-2024/

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            @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-debutants-in-2024/

            Strange is one of two locks with the size for test footy. The other being Parkinson. And the other is Sam Darry ...

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            • boobooB booboo

              @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-debutants-in-2024/

              Strange is one of two locks with the size for test footy. The other being Parkinson. And the other is Sam Darry ...

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              @booboo Scott Barrett is 1.97cm tall and goes just fine at test footy. There are more out there than those 3.

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              • boobooB booboo

                @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-debutants-in-2024/

                Strange is one of two locks with the size for test footy. The other being Parkinson. And the other is Sam Darry ...

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                @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-debutants-in-2024/

                Strange is one of two locks with the size for test footy. The other being Parkinson. And the other is Sam Darry ...

                Too beanpolish.

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-debutants-in-2024/

                  Strange is one of two locks with the size for test footy. The other being Parkinson. And the other is Sam Darry ...

                  Too beanpolish.

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                  @MN5

                  Most young locks lack the size, I’m sure it will come eventually and once they are under the supervision of Nic Gill and being prepared for test rugby and not just NPC/super rugby.

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                  • boobooB booboo

                    @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-debutants-in-2024/

                    Strange is one of two locks with the size for test footy. The other being Parkinson. And the other is Sam Darry ...

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                    @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                    @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-debutants-in-2024/

                    Strange is one of two locks with the size for test footy. The other being Parkinson. And the other is Sam Darry ...

                    Not sure it needs explaining... am not commenting on the relative abilities just noting that of the two who have the size the three are ...

                    Maybe I missed y'all's subtlety...

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      TV1 broadcasts a special segment on "Sunday" about Scott Robertson.

                      Typical GOM Fern: it was too much about Scott Robertson.

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                      @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                      TV1 broadcasts a special segment on "Sunday" about Scott Robertson.

                      Typical GOM Fern: it was too much about Scott Robertson.

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                      One person criticises something about a segment that aired.

                      Typical GOM definitely not one of the most ardent Crusaders fans: Typical whole TSF.

                      https://giphy.com/gifs/Friends-season-6-friends-tv-episode-605-lQJayZEVokHXYLMjPh

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                        There's certainly a lot of hype and excitement around Robertson.

                        On the other hand, it's understandable given his record.

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                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/301015669/open-to-all-information-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-keen-to-learn-from-old-foes

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                            I'd follow this man through fire.

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                              "At test level it is different. Having been at the World Cup, they are bigger bodies, there are more small moments that have big margins on them,'' Robertson noted.

                              "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

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                                As long as no one raises interminable Razor arguments - I'm quite happy to actually wait until he selects and plays his first team.

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/301015669/open-to-all-information-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-keen-to-learn-from-old-foes

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                  https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/301015669/open-to-all-information-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-keen-to-learn-from-old-foes

                                  I'm a fan of reading statements like this:
                                  "At test level it is different. Having been at the World Cup, they are bigger bodies, there are more small moments that have big margins on them,'' Robertson noted.

                                  "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

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                                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/301015669/open-to-all-information-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-keen-to-learn-from-old-foes

                                    I'm a fan of reading statements like this:
                                    "At test level it is different. Having been at the World Cup, they are bigger bodies, there are more small moments that have big margins on them,'' Robertson noted.

                                    "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

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                                    canefan
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                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/301015669/open-to-all-information-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-keen-to-learn-from-old-foes

                                    I'm a fan of reading statements like this:
                                    "At test level it is different. Having been at the World Cup, they are bigger bodies, there are more small moments that have big margins on them,'' Robertson noted.

                                    "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

                                    You just bolded all the weaknesses from the last tenure, and the things that stopped us winning the final. Fix that without sacrificing quality game breaking players to do it, and we are well on our way

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                                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                      https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/301015669/open-to-all-information-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-keen-to-learn-from-old-foes

                                      I'm a fan of reading statements like this:
                                      "At test level it is different. Having been at the World Cup, they are bigger bodies, there are more small moments that have big margins on them,'' Robertson noted.

                                      "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

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                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                      "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

                                      So that sounds like bye-bye to
                                      kicking: BB
                                      defensive game: Will Jordan
                                      discipline: Sam Cane

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                                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                        "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

                                        So that sounds like bye-bye to
                                        kicking: BB
                                        defensive game: Will Jordan
                                        discipline: Sam Cane

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                                        canefan
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                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                        "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

                                        So that sounds like bye-bye to
                                        kicking: BB
                                        defensive game: Will Jordan
                                        discipline: Sam Cane

                                        He'll just ask them all to refocus. Weren't most of us lamenting our inability to close out games, to exit, our defensive discipline, and the number of YCs we conceded long before and throughout the RWC?

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                                          We'll have to wait and see if the discipline improves. The days of BOK and his ilk refereeing are over, and we've seen that the NH refs are totally different to what NZ/Aust refs focus on in SR.

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