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    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-debutants-in-2024/

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    • canefanC canefan

      The temptation for a new coach is to miss lessons learned (not gonna use the other stupid word) during the previous tenure in the rush to stamp their own mark. If he's taking the time to debrief the senior players that is a good sign to me

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      @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

      The temptation for a new coach is to miss lessons learned (not gonna use the other stupid word)

      Learnings lessened? (Was trying to type lessoned but autocorrect came up with something more apt.

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      • TimT Tim

        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-debutants-in-2024/

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        @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-debutants-in-2024/

        Strange is one of two locks with the size for test footy. The other being Parkinson. And the other is Sam Darry ...

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          @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-debutants-in-2024/

          Strange is one of two locks with the size for test footy. The other being Parkinson. And the other is Sam Darry ...

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          @booboo Scott Barrett is 1.97cm tall and goes just fine at test footy. There are more out there than those 3.

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            @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-debutants-in-2024/

            Strange is one of two locks with the size for test footy. The other being Parkinson. And the other is Sam Darry ...

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            @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

            @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-debutants-in-2024/

            Strange is one of two locks with the size for test footy. The other being Parkinson. And the other is Sam Darry ...

            Too beanpolish.

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              @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

              @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-debutants-in-2024/

              Strange is one of two locks with the size for test footy. The other being Parkinson. And the other is Sam Darry ...

              Too beanpolish.

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              @MN5

              Most young locks lack the size, I’m sure it will come eventually and once they are under the supervision of Nic Gill and being prepared for test rugby and not just NPC/super rugby.

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              • boobooB booboo

                @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-debutants-in-2024/

                Strange is one of two locks with the size for test footy. The other being Parkinson. And the other is Sam Darry ...

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                @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-black-debutants-in-2024/

                Strange is one of two locks with the size for test footy. The other being Parkinson. And the other is Sam Darry ...

                Not sure it needs explaining... am not commenting on the relative abilities just noting that of the two who have the size the three are ...

                Maybe I missed y'all's subtlety...

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  TV1 broadcasts a special segment on "Sunday" about Scott Robertson.

                  Typical GOM Fern: it was too much about Scott Robertson.

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                  @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                  TV1 broadcasts a special segment on "Sunday" about Scott Robertson.

                  Typical GOM Fern: it was too much about Scott Robertson.

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                  One person criticises something about a segment that aired.

                  Typical GOM definitely not one of the most ardent Crusaders fans: Typical whole TSF.

                  https://giphy.com/gifs/Friends-season-6-friends-tv-episode-605-lQJayZEVokHXYLMjPh

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                    There's certainly a lot of hype and excitement around Robertson.

                    On the other hand, it's understandable given his record.

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                      https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/301015669/open-to-all-information-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-keen-to-learn-from-old-foes

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                        I'd follow this man through fire.

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                          "At test level it is different. Having been at the World Cup, they are bigger bodies, there are more small moments that have big margins on them,'' Robertson noted.

                          "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

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                            As long as no one raises interminable Razor arguments - I'm quite happy to actually wait until he selects and plays his first team.

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                              https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/301015669/open-to-all-information-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-keen-to-learn-from-old-foes

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                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                              https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/301015669/open-to-all-information-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-keen-to-learn-from-old-foes

                              I'm a fan of reading statements like this:
                              "At test level it is different. Having been at the World Cup, they are bigger bodies, there are more small moments that have big margins on them,'' Robertson noted.

                              "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

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                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/301015669/open-to-all-information-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-keen-to-learn-from-old-foes

                                I'm a fan of reading statements like this:
                                "At test level it is different. Having been at the World Cup, they are bigger bodies, there are more small moments that have big margins on them,'' Robertson noted.

                                "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

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                                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/301015669/open-to-all-information-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-keen-to-learn-from-old-foes

                                I'm a fan of reading statements like this:
                                "At test level it is different. Having been at the World Cup, they are bigger bodies, there are more small moments that have big margins on them,'' Robertson noted.

                                "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

                                You just bolded all the weaknesses from the last tenure, and the things that stopped us winning the final. Fix that without sacrificing quality game breaking players to do it, and we are well on our way

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                                • antipodeanA antipodean

                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                  https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/301015669/open-to-all-information-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-keen-to-learn-from-old-foes

                                  I'm a fan of reading statements like this:
                                  "At test level it is different. Having been at the World Cup, they are bigger bodies, there are more small moments that have big margins on them,'' Robertson noted.

                                  "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

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                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                  "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

                                  So that sounds like bye-bye to
                                  kicking: BB
                                  defensive game: Will Jordan
                                  discipline: Sam Cane

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                                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                    "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

                                    So that sounds like bye-bye to
                                    kicking: BB
                                    defensive game: Will Jordan
                                    discipline: Sam Cane

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                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                    "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

                                    So that sounds like bye-bye to
                                    kicking: BB
                                    defensive game: Will Jordan
                                    discipline: Sam Cane

                                    He'll just ask them all to refocus. Weren't most of us lamenting our inability to close out games, to exit, our defensive discipline, and the number of YCs we conceded long before and throughout the RWC?

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                                      We'll have to wait and see if the discipline improves. The days of BOK and his ilk refereeing are over, and we've seen that the NH refs are totally different to what NZ/Aust refs focus on in SR.

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                                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                        "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

                                        So that sounds like bye-bye to
                                        kicking: BB
                                        defensive game: Will Jordan
                                        discipline: Sam Cane

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                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                        "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

                                        So that sounds like bye-bye to
                                        kicking: BB
                                        defensive game: Will Jordan
                                        discipline: Sam Cane

                                        discipline: the new proposed captain should be a goner too, the only AB to have two red cards in tests.

                                        TBF, is our defence that bad, the GREATEST team in the world couldn't score a try against our mostly 14 man team.

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                          "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

                                          So that sounds like bye-bye to
                                          kicking: BB
                                          defensive game: Will Jordan
                                          discipline: Sam Cane

                                          discipline: the new proposed captain should be a goner too, the only AB to have two red cards in tests.

                                          TBF, is our defence that bad, the GREATEST team in the world couldn't score a try against our mostly 14 man team.

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                                          @Nepia yeah, definitely more worried about scooter

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