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    cgrant
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    Is Tavatavanawai eligible ? He has qualities that most other wings don't have. He is the best jackal in NZ and a strong battering ram. Not sure about his speed, his catching of high balls and his kicking, though.

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      Is Tavatavanawai eligible ? He has qualities that most other wings don't have. He is the best jackal in NZ and a strong battering ram. Not sure about his speed, his catching of high balls and his kicking, though.

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      @cgrant he's good under the high ball (althought more of a catch on the run rather than out leap everyone else) and passable kicker, think he's only played U20s for fiji

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        We're flush with quality wingers though, Clarke, Telea, Reece, Narawa.

        I'd feel a little sorry for Reece if he doesn't get into the squad, top try scorer in the comp playing for a team at the bottom of the table - its quite an effort.

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          We're flush with quality wingers though, Clarke, Telea, Reece, Narawa.

          I'd feel a little sorry for Reece if he doesn't get into the squad, top try scorer in the comp playing for a team at the bottom of the table - its quite an effort.

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          @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          I'd feel a little sorry for Reece if he doesn't get into the squad, top try scorer in the comp playing for a team at the bottom of the table - its quite an effort.

          He's been very good for some time. I think the AB selectors may see him as too small; I disagree - I'd ahve him on the wing ahead of Jordan (for instance)

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            Kiwiwomble
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            i would say reece HAS to be in there somewhere, he one of the few people that has worked directly under razor AND still performing in SRP, ticks all the boxes

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              I'd feel a little sorry for Reece if he doesn't get into the squad, top try scorer in the comp playing for a team at the bottom of the table - its quite an effort.

              He's been very good for some time. I think the AB selectors may see him as too small; I disagree - I'd ahve him on the wing ahead of Jordan (for instance)

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              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              I'd feel a little sorry for Reece if he doesn't get into the squad, top try scorer in the comp playing for a team at the bottom of the table - its quite an effort.

              He's been very good for some time. I think the AB selectors may see him as too small; I disagree - I'd ahve him on the wing ahead of Jordan (for instance)

              I hope Razor deosn't see him as too small, it certainly hasn't affected Reece on attack given he score tries off the pick and go close to the line.

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                Windows97
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                As far as bolters making the squad I'd like to see Lakai, Funaki and Millar given a shot.

                Lakai has played consistently well all season and made quite the impact, good on the carry, good on the clean and is young and up and coming. Deserves some time in camp.

                Funaki has made every post a winner this season, confident and decisive at the back of the ruck, good pass, good running game and can keep defenders on their toes.

                Millar who I admit I've never heard of before has really impressed me the last few weeks. Very good tactical kicking game, very accurate off the tee, low error rate, good decision making. The AB's have lacked a consistently good goal kicker since Carter left unfortuntely which has cost us in tight matches (like the RWC final). I think his style of play suits pressure, test match footy.

                I'd just like to see some up and coming guys given a go.

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                  Kiwiwomble
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                  im as one eyed about otago players and anyone....and millar would be a huge smokie....4 weeks ago he would have been 3rd choice for the Highlanders...maybe even 4th behind Gilbert...playing someone like Millar decides how you are going to play...little versatility

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                    Millar might develop, I hope he does, but jeez way too early for him to even be in conversation I would have thought.

                    I'd like to see Plummer given a chance. He has done very well at 10 for the Blues recently and he is a handy 12 (can probably play 15 too at a pinch). Plummer over DH please.

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                    • Windows97W Windows97

                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      I'd feel a little sorry for Reece if he doesn't get into the squad, top try scorer in the comp playing for a team at the bottom of the table - its quite an effort.

                      He's been very good for some time. I think the AB selectors may see him as too small; I disagree - I'd ahve him on the wing ahead of Jordan (for instance)

                      I hope Razor deosn't see him as too small, it certainly hasn't affected Reece on attack given he score tries off the pick and go close to the line.

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                      @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      I'd feel a little sorry for Reece if he doesn't get into the squad, top try scorer in the comp playing for a team at the bottom of the table - its quite an effort.

                      He's been very good for some time. I think the AB selectors may see him as too small; I disagree - I'd ahve him on the wing ahead of Jordan (for instance)

                      I hope Razor deosn't see him as too small, it certainly hasn't affected Reece on attack given he score tries off the pick and go close to the line.

                      Size would be for defence work I suspect.

                      Look I have rated him for some time - his workrate is awesome ... but trying to understand why the ABs prefer others there.

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                        @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        I'd feel a little sorry for Reece if he doesn't get into the squad, top try scorer in the comp playing for a team at the bottom of the table - its quite an effort.

                        He's been very good for some time. I think the AB selectors may see him as too small; I disagree - I'd ahve him on the wing ahead of Jordan (for instance)

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                        Bones
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                        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        I think the AB selectors may see him as too small;

                        Where do you get that idea from? I've seen no such suggestion from anywhere relevant throughout his career. IMO he would have made a difference to our chances at the RWC.

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                        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                          Millar might develop, I hope he does, but jeez way too early for him to even be in conversation I would have thought.

                          I'd like to see Plummer given a chance. He has done very well at 10 for the Blues recently and he is a handy 12 (can probably play 15 too at a pinch). Plummer over DH please.

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                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          Millar might develop, I hope he does, but jeez way too early for him to even be in conversation I would have thought.

                          I'd like to see Plummer given a chance. He has done very well at 10 for the Blues recently and he is a handy 12 (can probably play 15 too at a pinch). Plummer over DH please.

                          Yeah Millar is one of the most ridiculous suggestions in quite a while, especially when Plummer has been making every post a winner. I'd be interested to see kicking stats compared...

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                            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            I think the AB selectors may see him as too small;

                            Where do you get that idea from? I've seen no such suggestion from anywhere relevant throughout his career. IMO he would have made a difference to our chances at the RWC.

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                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            I think the AB selectors may see him as too small;

                            Where do you get that idea from? I've seen no such suggestion from anywhere relevant throughout his career. IMO he would have made a difference to our chances at the RWC.

                            mate, this is the Fern. I'm guessing.

                            I don't know why they didn't play him more - I htink he's dynamite

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                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              I think the AB selectors may see him as too small;

                              Where do you get that idea from? I've seen no such suggestion from anywhere relevant throughout his career. IMO he would have made a difference to our chances at the RWC.

                              mate, this is the Fern. I'm guessing.

                              I don't know why they didn't play him more - I htink he's dynamite

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                              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              I think the AB selectors may see him as too small;

                              Where do you get that idea from? I've seen no such suggestion from anywhere relevant throughout his career. IMO he would have made a difference to our chances at the RWC.

                              mate, this is the Fern. I'm guessing.

                              I don't know why they didn't play him more - I htink he's dynamite

                              You're not falling into the same trap as me referencing last year when he was injured are you?

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                                cgrant
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                                Reece is small but stocky. He is punching far above his weight (and height).

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                                  Reece is small but stocky. He is punching far above his weight (and height).

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                                  @cgrant said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  Reece is small but stocky. He is punching far above his weight (and height).

                                  Not his head size though. Biggest melon since Zinzan Brooke. If him and McKenzie take the field at the same time it might affect the moons orbit.

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                                    @cgrant said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    Reece is small but stocky. He is punching far above his weight (and height).

                                    Not his head size though. Biggest melon since Zinzan Brooke. If him and McKenzie take the field at the same time it might affect the moons orbit.

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                                    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    @cgrant said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    Reece is small but stocky. He is punching far above his weight (and height).

                                    Not his head size though. Biggest melon since Zinzan Brooke. If him and McKenzie take the field at the same time it might affect the moons orbit.

                                    Yeah it always surprises me when I see he's 179cm, which isn't really short. A good proportion of that has gotta be dome.

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                                    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                      Millar might develop, I hope he does, but jeez way too early for him to even be in conversation I would have thought.

                                      I'd like to see Plummer given a chance. He has done very well at 10 for the Blues recently and he is a handy 12 (can probably play 15 too at a pinch). Plummer over DH please.

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                                      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      Millar might develop, I hope he does, but jeez way too early for him to even be in conversation I would have thought.

                                      I'd like to see Plummer given a chance. He has done very well at 10 for the Blues recently and he is a handy 12 (can probably play 15 too at a pinch). Plummer over DH please.

                                      Lets put it this way - if were to have a bolter at 10 I would prefer it to be Millar than DH...

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                                        Mr Fish
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                                        With no absolutely stand-out back-ups to McKenzie and Barrett, first five is one position I can see Robertson opting for a proper bolter.

                                        Plummer would be someone I wouldn't mind starting to hold down the fort as a stopgap option if everyone else was struck down by injury, but I don't see a massive upside to having him in the squad when now is the prime time to start preparing for the future. Millar has probably performed the best of the young 10s, so I wouldn't be completely blown away if he does get a surprise call-up.

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                                          With no absolutely stand-out back-ups to McKenzie and Barrett, first five is one position I can see Robertson opting for a proper bolter.

                                          Plummer would be someone I wouldn't mind starting to hold down the fort as a stopgap option if everyone else was struck down by injury, but I don't see a massive upside to having him in the squad when now is the prime time to start preparing for the future. Millar has probably performed the best of the young 10s, so I wouldn't be completely blown away if he does get a surprise call-up.

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                                          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          Plummer would be someone I wouldn't mind starting to hold down the fort as a stopgap option if everyone else was struck down by injury, but I don't see a massive upside to having him in the squad when now is the prime time to start preparing for the future. Millar has probably performed the best of the young 10s, so I wouldn't be completely blown away if he does get a surprise call-up.

                                          Plummer is only 25, has actually played well, and can develop further given more time in the position.
                                          Millar looks nothing more than an unproven journeyman at this stage.

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