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  • MN5M MN5

    @cgrant said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Reece is small but stocky. He is punching far above his weight (and height).

    Not his head size though. Biggest melon since Zinzan Brooke. If him and McKenzie take the field at the same time it might affect the moons orbit.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @cgrant said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Reece is small but stocky. He is punching far above his weight (and height).

    Not his head size though. Biggest melon since Zinzan Brooke. If him and McKenzie take the field at the same time it might affect the moons orbit.

    Yeah it always surprises me when I see he's 179cm, which isn't really short. A good proportion of that has gotta be dome.

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    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

      Millar might develop, I hope he does, but jeez way too early for him to even be in conversation I would have thought.

      I'd like to see Plummer given a chance. He has done very well at 10 for the Blues recently and he is a handy 12 (can probably play 15 too at a pinch). Plummer over DH please.

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      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      Millar might develop, I hope he does, but jeez way too early for him to even be in conversation I would have thought.

      I'd like to see Plummer given a chance. He has done very well at 10 for the Blues recently and he is a handy 12 (can probably play 15 too at a pinch). Plummer over DH please.

      Lets put it this way - if were to have a bolter at 10 I would prefer it to be Millar than DH...

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        With no absolutely stand-out back-ups to McKenzie and Barrett, first five is one position I can see Robertson opting for a proper bolter.

        Plummer would be someone I wouldn't mind starting to hold down the fort as a stopgap option if everyone else was struck down by injury, but I don't see a massive upside to having him in the squad when now is the prime time to start preparing for the future. Millar has probably performed the best of the young 10s, so I wouldn't be completely blown away if he does get a surprise call-up.

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        • Mr FishM Mr Fish

          With no absolutely stand-out back-ups to McKenzie and Barrett, first five is one position I can see Robertson opting for a proper bolter.

          Plummer would be someone I wouldn't mind starting to hold down the fort as a stopgap option if everyone else was struck down by injury, but I don't see a massive upside to having him in the squad when now is the prime time to start preparing for the future. Millar has probably performed the best of the young 10s, so I wouldn't be completely blown away if he does get a surprise call-up.

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          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          Plummer would be someone I wouldn't mind starting to hold down the fort as a stopgap option if everyone else was struck down by injury, but I don't see a massive upside to having him in the squad when now is the prime time to start preparing for the future. Millar has probably performed the best of the young 10s, so I wouldn't be completely blown away if he does get a surprise call-up.

          Plummer is only 25, has actually played well, and can develop further given more time in the position.
          Millar looks nothing more than an unproven journeyman at this stage.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @cgrant said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            Reece is small but stocky. He is punching far above his weight (and height).

            Not his head size though. Biggest melon since Zinzan Brooke. If him and McKenzie take the field at the same time it might affect the moons orbit.

            Yeah it always surprises me when I see he's 179cm, which isn't really short. A good proportion of that has gotta be dome.

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            @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @cgrant said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            Reece is small but stocky. He is punching far above his weight (and height).

            Not his head size though. Biggest melon since Zinzan Brooke. If him and McKenzie take the field at the same time it might affect the moons orbit.

            Yeah it always surprises me when I see he's 179cm, which isn't really short. A good proportion of that has gotta be dome.

            Makes him harder to legally tackle...

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              I was hoping Fakatava's poor decision making was linked to getting limited minutes under Aaron Smith and trying too hard to impress.

              Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be improving even when he has regular starts.

              He may be given a lifeline and we haven't seen much of him at test level as perhaps he would up his game in black but hard to argue if he is left out.

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                The Super Rugby final is on the 22nd of June. The first test against England is two weeks later.

                If Lomax isn't available then who replaces him?

                If Aumua isn't available then who is third hooker?

                If Scott Barrett isn't available then who are the locks?

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                • TimT Tim

                  The Super Rugby final is on the 22nd of June. The first test against England is two weeks later.

                  If Lomax isn't available then who replaces him?

                  If Aumua isn't available then who is third hooker?

                  If Scott Barrett isn't available then who are the locks?

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                  #2300

                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  The Super Rugby final is on the 22nd of June. The first test against England is two weeks later.

                  If Lomax isn't available then who replaces him?

                  Newell

                  If Aumua isn't available then who is third hooker?

                  Bell

                  If Scott Barrett isn't available then who are the locks?

                  Has to be Strange, already has at least one card this year for being a deadshit so likely meets the criteria.

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    The Super Rugby final is on the 22nd of June. The first test against England is two weeks later.

                    If Lomax isn't available then who replaces him?

                    Newell

                    If Aumua isn't available then who is third hooker?

                    Bell

                    If Scott Barrett isn't available then who are the locks?

                    Has to be Strange, already has at least one card this year for being a deadshit so likely meets the criteria.

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                    #2301

                    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    Bell

                    Shouldn't be anywhere near the ABs.

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      The Super Rugby final is on the 22nd of June. The first test against England is two weeks later.

                      If Lomax isn't available then who replaces him?

                      Newell

                      If Aumua isn't available then who is third hooker?

                      Bell

                      If Scott Barrett isn't available then who are the locks?

                      Has to be Strange, already has at least one card this year for being a deadshit so likely meets the criteria.

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                      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      Newell

                      Won't he already be in the squad?

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        Newell

                        Won't he already be in the squad?

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                        #2303

                        @Tim

                        Then, Franks I suppose 🙂

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                          Tim
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                          #2304

                          Official 32 man squad:

                          (squad size conformed)

                          de Groot
                          Tu'ungufasi
                          Lomax
                          Newell
                          Numia/Williams
                          Taylor
                          Taukei'aho
                          Aumua
                          S Barrett
                          Tuipulotu
                          Vaai
                          Papalii
                          Savea
                          Finau
                          Sotutu
                          Ioane
                          Jacobson
                          Perenara
                          Christie
                          Ratima
                          McKenzie
                          Perofeta
                          B Barrett
                          J Barrett
                          R Ioane
                          Proctor
                          Lienert-Brown
                          Clarke
                          Telea
                          Reece
                          Narawa
                          Love

                          Personally, I would not bother with Jacobson, and only have three wings. Pick an extra tighthead and lock.

                          Availability questions over Lomax, Williams, Aumua, S Barrett, Finau.

                          Lakai, Darry potential bolters.

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                          • TimT Tim

                            Official 32 man squad:

                            (squad size conformed)

                            de Groot
                            Tu'ungufasi
                            Lomax
                            Newell
                            Numia/Williams
                            Taylor
                            Taukei'aho
                            Aumua
                            S Barrett
                            Tuipulotu
                            Vaai
                            Papalii
                            Savea
                            Finau
                            Sotutu
                            Ioane
                            Jacobson
                            Perenara
                            Christie
                            Ratima
                            McKenzie
                            Perofeta
                            B Barrett
                            J Barrett
                            R Ioane
                            Proctor
                            Lienert-Brown
                            Clarke
                            Telea
                            Reece
                            Narawa
                            Love

                            Personally, I would not bother with Jacobson, and only have three wings. Pick an extra tighthead and lock.

                            Availability questions over Lomax, Williams, Aumua, S Barrett, Finau.

                            Lakai, Darry potential bolters.

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                            Bones
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                            #2305

                            @Tim reckon Robertson with a plan to get Perofeta back to his form from a season or two ago? I'd prefer to see him reward this year's form and go with Plummer.

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                              #2306

                              23 for England

                              1 de Groot
                              2 Taylor
                              3 Lomax
                              4 S Barrett
                              5 Tuipulotu
                              6 Finau
                              7 Papalii
                              8 Savea
                              9 Perenara
                              10 McKenzie
                              11 Clarke
                              12 J Barrett
                              13 R Ioane
                              14 Telea
                              15 Love

                              16 Aumua
                              17 Tu'ungufasi
                              18 Newell
                              19 Vaa'i
                              20 Sotutu
                              21 Christie
                              22 B Barrett
                              23 Lienert-Brown

                              Questions over nines, wings, and bench composition. Does Finau have the work-rate?

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @Tim reckon Robertson with a plan to get Perofeta back to his form from a season or two ago? I'd prefer to see him reward this year's form and go with Plummer.

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                                #2307

                                @Bones Yeah, very interesting question. Maybe he figures Perofeta has a higher ceiling?

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  Official 32 man squad:

                                  (squad size conformed)

                                  de Groot
                                  Tu'ungufasi
                                  Lomax
                                  Newell
                                  Numia/Williams
                                  Taylor
                                  Taukei'aho
                                  Aumua
                                  S Barrett
                                  Tuipulotu
                                  Vaai
                                  Papalii
                                  Savea
                                  Finau
                                  Sotutu
                                  Ioane
                                  Jacobson
                                  Perenara
                                  Christie
                                  Ratima
                                  McKenzie
                                  Perofeta
                                  B Barrett
                                  J Barrett
                                  R Ioane
                                  Proctor
                                  Lienert-Brown
                                  Clarke
                                  Telea
                                  Reece
                                  Narawa
                                  Love

                                  Personally, I would not bother with Jacobson, and only have three wings. Pick an extra tighthead and lock.

                                  Availability questions over Lomax, Williams, Aumua, S Barrett, Finau.

                                  Lakai, Darry potential bolters.

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                                  @Tim the whole Breakdown panel were picking Lakai, aswell as plenty of media sources. I love your optimism about picking both Ioane and Jacobsen but one of them will miss out to Lakai because he can cover all three positions I feel, plus he’s been consistently good the whole comp.

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    23 for England

                                    1 de Groot
                                    2 Taylor
                                    3 Lomax
                                    4 S Barrett
                                    5 Tuipulotu
                                    6 Finau
                                    7 Papalii
                                    8 Savea
                                    9 Perenara
                                    10 McKenzie
                                    11 Clarke
                                    12 J Barrett
                                    13 R Ioane
                                    14 Telea
                                    15 Love

                                    16 Aumua
                                    17 Tu'ungufasi
                                    18 Newell
                                    19 Vaa'i
                                    20 Sotutu
                                    21 Christie
                                    22 B Barrett
                                    23 Lienert-Brown

                                    Questions over nines, wings, and bench composition. Does Finau have the work-rate?

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                                    @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    23 for England

                                    1 de Groot
                                    2 Taylor
                                    3 Lomax
                                    4 S Barrett
                                    5 Tuipulotu
                                    6 Finau
                                    7 Papalii
                                    8 Savea
                                    9 Perenara
                                    10 McKenzie
                                    11 Clarke
                                    12 J Barrett
                                    13 R Ioane
                                    14 Telea
                                    15 Love

                                    16 Aumua
                                    17 Tu'ungufasi
                                    18 Newell
                                    19 Vaa'i
                                    20 Sotutu
                                    21 Christie
                                    22 B Barrett
                                    23 Lienert-Brown

                                    Questions over nines, wings, and bench composition. Does Finau have the work-rate?

                                    there is enough change in there for me to be excited, i think i was leaning towards Telea 11 and Reece 14 but happy for almost anyone to get a run under a new coach/gameplan and see if they fire

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                                      Bones
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                                      #2310

                                      Yeah I'd probably rank the wings
                                      Telea
                                      Reece
                                      Narawa
                                      Clarke

                                      But as long as Clarke's form translates to international level I'd be happy enough with any pair.

                                      Just as long as it's not Jordan...

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        @Tim the whole Breakdown panel were picking Lakai, aswell as plenty of media sources. I love your optimism about picking both Ioane and Jacobsen but one of them will miss out to Lakai because he can cover all three positions I feel, plus he’s been consistently good the whole comp.

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                                        @Canes4life Lakai as a test 6? No chance.

                                        I've heard that Jordan will be fit for England. Ignoring that he hasn't played yet. 😉

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @Tim the whole Breakdown panel were picking Lakai, aswell as plenty of media sources. I love your optimism about picking both Ioane and Jacobsen but one of them will miss out to Lakai because he can cover all three positions I feel, plus he’s been consistently good the whole comp.

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                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          the whole Breakdown panel

                                          Those are the dumbest people in NZ, and Jeff Wilson is the stupidest person in the entire world.

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