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All Blacks 2024

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  • TimT Offline
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    Tim
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    23 for England

    1 de Groot
    2 Taylor
    3 Lomax
    4 S Barrett
    5 Tuipulotu
    6 Finau
    7 Papalii
    8 Savea
    9 Perenara
    10 McKenzie
    11 Clarke
    12 J Barrett
    13 R Ioane
    14 Telea
    15 Love

    16 Aumua
    17 Tu'ungufasi
    18 Newell
    19 Vaa'i
    20 Sotutu
    21 Christie
    22 B Barrett
    23 Lienert-Brown

    Questions over nines, wings, and bench composition. Does Finau have the work-rate?

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    • BonesB Bones

      @Tim reckon Robertson with a plan to get Perofeta back to his form from a season or two ago? I'd prefer to see him reward this year's form and go with Plummer.

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      @Bones Yeah, very interesting question. Maybe he figures Perofeta has a higher ceiling?

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      • TimT Tim

        Official 32 man squad:

        (squad size conformed)

        de Groot
        Tu'ungufasi
        Lomax
        Newell
        Numia/Williams
        Taylor
        Taukei'aho
        Aumua
        S Barrett
        Tuipulotu
        Vaai
        Papalii
        Savea
        Finau
        Sotutu
        Ioane
        Jacobson
        Perenara
        Christie
        Ratima
        McKenzie
        Perofeta
        B Barrett
        J Barrett
        R Ioane
        Proctor
        Lienert-Brown
        Clarke
        Telea
        Reece
        Narawa
        Love

        Personally, I would not bother with Jacobson, and only have three wings. Pick an extra tighthead and lock.

        Availability questions over Lomax, Williams, Aumua, S Barrett, Finau.

        Lakai, Darry potential bolters.

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        Canes4life
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        @Tim the whole Breakdown panel were picking Lakai, aswell as plenty of media sources. I love your optimism about picking both Ioane and Jacobsen but one of them will miss out to Lakai because he can cover all three positions I feel, plus heโ€™s been consistently good the whole comp.

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        • TimT Tim

          23 for England

          1 de Groot
          2 Taylor
          3 Lomax
          4 S Barrett
          5 Tuipulotu
          6 Finau
          7 Papalii
          8 Savea
          9 Perenara
          10 McKenzie
          11 Clarke
          12 J Barrett
          13 R Ioane
          14 Telea
          15 Love

          16 Aumua
          17 Tu'ungufasi
          18 Newell
          19 Vaa'i
          20 Sotutu
          21 Christie
          22 B Barrett
          23 Lienert-Brown

          Questions over nines, wings, and bench composition. Does Finau have the work-rate?

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          Kiwiwomble
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          #2309

          @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          23 for England

          1 de Groot
          2 Taylor
          3 Lomax
          4 S Barrett
          5 Tuipulotu
          6 Finau
          7 Papalii
          8 Savea
          9 Perenara
          10 McKenzie
          11 Clarke
          12 J Barrett
          13 R Ioane
          14 Telea
          15 Love

          16 Aumua
          17 Tu'ungufasi
          18 Newell
          19 Vaa'i
          20 Sotutu
          21 Christie
          22 B Barrett
          23 Lienert-Brown

          Questions over nines, wings, and bench composition. Does Finau have the work-rate?

          there is enough change in there for me to be excited, i think i was leaning towards Telea 11 and Reece 14 but happy for almost anyone to get a run under a new coach/gameplan and see if they fire

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            Bones
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            Yeah I'd probably rank the wings
            Telea
            Reece
            Narawa
            Clarke

            But as long as Clarke's form translates to international level I'd be happy enough with any pair.

            Just as long as it's not Jordan...

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @Tim the whole Breakdown panel were picking Lakai, aswell as plenty of media sources. I love your optimism about picking both Ioane and Jacobsen but one of them will miss out to Lakai because he can cover all three positions I feel, plus heโ€™s been consistently good the whole comp.

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              @Canes4life Lakai as a test 6? No chance.

              I've heard that Jordan will be fit for England. Ignoring that he hasn't played yet. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @Tim the whole Breakdown panel were picking Lakai, aswell as plenty of media sources. I love your optimism about picking both Ioane and Jacobsen but one of them will miss out to Lakai because he can cover all three positions I feel, plus heโ€™s been consistently good the whole comp.

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                Tim
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                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                the whole Breakdown panel

                Those are the dumbest people in NZ, and Jeff Wilson is the stupidest person in the entire world.

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                • TimT Tim

                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  the whole Breakdown panel

                  Those are the dumbest people in NZ, and Jeff Wilson is the stupidest person in the entire world.

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                  Bones
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                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  the whole Breakdown panel

                  Those are the dumbest people in NZ, and Jeff Wilson is the stupidest person in the entire world.

                  Fighting fire with fire!

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                  • TimT Offline
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                    #2314

                    Lakai will be an AB, maybe even in this series.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      the whole Breakdown panel

                      Those are the dumbest people in NZ, and Jeff Wilson is the stupidest person in the entire world.

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                      #2315

                      @Tim yeah I agree but I think Lakai will get in. I don't think they'll pick both Jacobsen and Ioane.

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        @Tim yeah I agree but I think Lakai will get in. I don't think they'll pick both Jacobsen and Ioane.

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                        #2316

                        @Canes4life Can't deny the talent and athleticism. Plenty of tests in his future.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @Canes4life Can't deny the talent and athleticism. Plenty of tests in his future.

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                          Canes4life
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                          @Tim for sure re Lakai. I think Ioane may have surpassed Jacobsen on form so he may get the nod now.

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                            No Quarter
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                            Admittedly I haven't watched much Super, but would Proctor be a better option than ALB on the bench?

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              @Canes4life Lakai as a test 6? No chance.

                              I've heard that Jordan will be fit for England. Ignoring that he hasn't played yet. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Canes4life Lakai as a test 6? No chance.

                              I've heard that Jordan will be fit for England. Ignoring that he hasn't played yet. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                              Ethan Blackadder too??

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                                @Tim

                                Then, Franks I suppose ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @Tim

                                Then, Franks I suppose ๐Ÿ™‚

                                Newell to start. Of younger props could go with Dyer or Mafileo. Stop gaps would include Ofa switching to TH or Angus.

                                Please God keep Tamaiti on LH.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  Official 32 man squad:

                                  (squad size conformed)

                                  de Groot
                                  Tu'ungufasi
                                  Lomax
                                  Newell
                                  Numia/Williams
                                  Taylor
                                  Taukei'aho
                                  Aumua
                                  S Barrett
                                  Tuipulotu
                                  Vaai
                                  Papalii
                                  Savea
                                  Finau
                                  Sotutu
                                  Ioane
                                  Jacobson
                                  Perenara
                                  Christie
                                  Ratima
                                  McKenzie
                                  Perofeta
                                  B Barrett
                                  J Barrett
                                  R Ioane
                                  Proctor
                                  Lienert-Brown
                                  Clarke
                                  Telea
                                  Reece
                                  Narawa
                                  Love

                                  Personally, I would not bother with Jacobson, and only have three wings. Pick an extra tighthead and lock.

                                  Availability questions over Lomax, Williams, Aumua, S Barrett, Finau.

                                  Lakai, Darry potential bolters.

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                                  booboo
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                                  #2321

                                  @Tim is Lord in any sort of consideration?

                                  Also, I agree about additional THP and Lock.

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                                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                    Admittedly I haven't watched much Super, but would Proctor be a better option than ALB on the bench?

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                                    Kiwiwomble
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                                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    Admittedly I haven't watched much Super, but would Proctor be a better option than ALB on the bench?

                                    ive always been impressed when i see proctor play, always works hard to get too the outside shoulder, could be the missing link to unlock our wings

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                                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                      Admittedly I haven't watched much Super, but would Proctor be a better option than ALB on the bench?

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                                      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      Admittedly I haven't watched much Super, but would Proctor be a better option than ALB on the bench?

                                      Proctor has been the form 13 of Super Rugby. He's been excellent. He does the ability to play 12 - right now ALB has runs on the board but if Proctor can transfer his Super form to test level then he will give Razor something to really think about.

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                                        KiwiMurph
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                                        I see Aaron Smith has supported Ardie for captain

                                        Razor has a big decision to make at captain.

                                        Ardie will be the people's choice and if he chooses Barrett then people will just claim it's Crusader bias.

                                        Barrett also has a propensity to get himself carded and currently has an injury issue.

                                        On the other hand Barrett has been a more successful Super captain than Ardie and Ardie has been off overseas in Japan.

                                        Of course ultimately winning will solve all problems but it will be a big first decision for Razor.

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                                          Between Ardie and Barrett, yikes. Not exactly the two sharpest knives in the drawer.

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