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All Blacks 2024

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #2434

    After watching the Crusaders-Blues game yesterday (I wasn't able to see live) I hope that Tuipulotu can translate that ball-carrying to the ABs on a consistent basis. It's not like our likely starting props offer that.

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    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

      i would go 11. Telea 14. Reece

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      #2435

      @Kiwiwomble same Telea and Reece over Clarke for me aswell. A back three of Telea, Reece and Love would be electric.

      If I had to pick an AB team to play England it would look like the following:

      1. De Groot
      2. Taylor
      3. Lomax
      4. Barrett
      5. Tuipolotu
      6. Finau
      7. Papali'i
      8. Savea (C) 🙂
      9. Perenara (he starts until Roigard gets back)
      10. McKenzie
      11. Telea
      12. Barrett
      13. Ioane
      14. Reece
      15. Love
      16. Aumua
      17. Williams
      18. Newell
      19. Vaai ?? I don't rate Vaai but I expect him to be there.
      20. Sotutu
      21. Ratima
      22. Barrett
      23. Proctor

      Rest of the squad for me would be:
      24. Taukei'aho
      25. Numia
      26. Tu'ungafasi
      27. Delany/McWhannell/Walker-Leawere/Darry - a bolter here, who knows who it will be.
      28. Lakai
      29. Blackadder - I think Razor will select his man.
      30. Funaki
      31. Leinert-Brown
      32. Clarke

      Squad reserves:
      33. another lock
      34. Jacobsen
      35. Plummer
      36. Stevenson

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        @Kiwiwomble same Telea and Reece over Clarke for me aswell. A back three of Telea, Reece and Love would be electric.

        If I had to pick an AB team to play England it would look like the following:

        1. De Groot
        2. Taylor
        3. Lomax
        4. Barrett
        5. Tuipolotu
        6. Finau
        7. Papali'i
        8. Savea (C) 🙂
        9. Perenara (he starts until Roigard gets back)
        10. McKenzie
        11. Telea
        12. Barrett
        13. Ioane
        14. Reece
        15. Love
        16. Aumua
        17. Williams
        18. Newell
        19. Vaai ?? I don't rate Vaai but I expect him to be there.
        20. Sotutu
        21. Ratima
        22. Barrett
        23. Proctor

        Rest of the squad for me would be:
        24. Taukei'aho
        25. Numia
        26. Tu'ungafasi
        27. Delany/McWhannell/Walker-Leawere/Darry - a bolter here, who knows who it will be.
        28. Lakai
        29. Blackadder - I think Razor will select his man.
        30. Funaki
        31. Leinert-Brown
        32. Clarke

        Squad reserves:
        33. another lock
        34. Jacobsen
        35. Plummer
        36. Stevenson

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        #2436

        @Canes4life to be clear, clarke still in and around the squad, i just feel Telea and Reece provide a more variety game plan wise and what im really hoping too see is more tailored approach when it comes to game plan, not just try the same thing against everyone

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          @Canes4life to be clear, clarke still in and around the squad, i just feel Telea and Reece provide a more variety game plan wise and what im really hoping too see is more tailored approach when it comes to game plan, not just try the same thing against everyone

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          @Kiwiwomble Telea and Reece, though not the biggest wingers are very very elusive and strong in contact. Reece is the best winger in Super Rugby and deserves his chance after being injured last year.

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          • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

            @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Dolamite said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            Hotham has to be close with Roigard injured, he’s been the best halfback in SR the past month

            I would think Hotham is also the closest to Roigard as a running HB.

            He is proving to be quite smart in his decisions around when to run. I also like the way he is still managing to clear the ball while under pressure and at times actually having players hanging off him after they have come through the ruck.

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            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Dolamite said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            Hotham has to be close with Roigard injured, he’s been the best halfback in SR the past month

            I would think Hotham is also the closest to Roigard as a running HB.

            He is proving to be quite smart in his decisions around when to run. I also like the way he is still managing to clear the ball while under pressure and at times actually having players hanging off him after they have come through the ruck.

            Also he been earmarked by NZR for a couple of years, can see him getting a peek, at leat for A team

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              #2439

              The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

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              • No QuarterN No Quarter

                The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

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                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

                His kickoff work is really useful too

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

                  His kickoff work is really useful too

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                  #2441

                  @Duluth this is why this AB squad announcement is so intriguing. Roberston could go a few ways for most of the positions and it would be hard to argue with. There is going to be a lot of talented players that will be disappointed at 5pm on July 24.

                  The silver lining is that we will have a very strong All Blacks XV squad.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @Duluth this is why this AB squad announcement is so intriguing. Roberston could go a few ways for most of the positions and it would be hard to argue with. There is going to be a lot of talented players that will be disappointed at 5pm on July 24.

                    The silver lining is that we will have a very strong All Blacks XV squad.

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                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    The silver lining is that we will have a very strong All Blacks XV squad.

                    Irrelevant for the England series though as they tour later in the year.

                    The Māori ABs play a Japan XV during the June/July window so many who miss out on the AB squad will be involved in that.

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                      #2443

                      It really just shows what a horrible year Stevenson's had given everyones form XV has Love starting at 15 now.

                      Somehow hes managed to make his defence even worse this year, seems to have lost his try scoring touch and his much vanuted kicking game has dissapointed.

                      Was his year to make a massive claim on the jersey especaily with Jordan getting injured so early and boy - has he missed.

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                      • No QuarterN No Quarter

                        The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

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                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

                        He's worked hard at not immediately looking around for support once he's broken the defence as well.

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                        • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                          With the modern game there is the luxury of subbing players at 60 minutes to see how they go.
                          Sotutu for Savea, Proctor for R Ioane, Vaa'i for Patty and bring on Numia.
                          Overall things are looking good.

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                          @BerniesCorner

                          I agree, very good players coming through in almost every position, not all of them will make it through to be world-class Test player but a few will. I think the 2027 squad will be very strong indeed.

                          The problem position for me is 10. For whatever reason, the NZ system is struggling badly at the minute to produce First Fives of any real quality.

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

                            He's worked hard at not immediately looking around for support once he's broken the defence as well.

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                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

                            He's worked hard at not immediately looking around for support once he's broken the defence as well.

                            He is very good under the high ball, too.

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                            • Landers92L Landers92

                              @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              Probably scandalous to suggest - but I am wondering if they might pick Clarke and Reece ahead of Telea as the starting wings. I think both are playing a little better and both have test experience.

                              Clarke is an out and out left winger so it’s between Tele’a, Narawa and Reece for the 14 jersey. The latter 3 can play on the left if needed but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

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                              @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

                              Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

                                Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

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                                @KiwiMurph

                                It barely counts, but he also played 14 against Namibia at the RWC

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  @Kiwiwomble same Telea and Reece over Clarke for me aswell. A back three of Telea, Reece and Love would be electric.

                                  If I had to pick an AB team to play England it would look like the following:

                                  1. De Groot
                                  2. Taylor
                                  3. Lomax
                                  4. Barrett
                                  5. Tuipolotu
                                  6. Finau
                                  7. Papali'i
                                  8. Savea (C) 🙂
                                  9. Perenara (he starts until Roigard gets back)
                                  10. McKenzie
                                  11. Telea
                                  12. Barrett
                                  13. Ioane
                                  14. Reece
                                  15. Love
                                  16. Aumua
                                  17. Williams
                                  18. Newell
                                  19. Vaai ?? I don't rate Vaai but I expect him to be there.
                                  20. Sotutu
                                  21. Ratima
                                  22. Barrett
                                  23. Proctor

                                  Rest of the squad for me would be:
                                  24. Taukei'aho
                                  25. Numia
                                  26. Tu'ungafasi
                                  27. Delany/McWhannell/Walker-Leawere/Darry - a bolter here, who knows who it will be.
                                  28. Lakai
                                  29. Blackadder - I think Razor will select his man.
                                  30. Funaki
                                  31. Leinert-Brown
                                  32. Clarke

                                  Squad reserves:
                                  33. another lock
                                  34. Jacobsen
                                  35. Plummer
                                  36. Stevenson

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                                  #2449

                                  @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                                  But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                                  What team does Hotham play for again?

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                                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

                                    Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

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                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

                                    Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

                                    I looked it up, back in 2019 he played most of the games at 14. Ioane was still playing 11 back then

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

                                      Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

                                      I looked it up, back in 2019 he played most of the games at 14. Ioane was still playing 11 back then

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                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

                                      Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

                                      I looked it up, back in 2019 he played most of the games at 14. Ioane was still playing 11 back then

                                      I stand corrected. I don’t recall that at all so thanks for that info.

                                      Going to be interesting come selection time for sure

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                                        But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                                        What team does Hotham play for again?

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                                        But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                                        What team does Hotham play for again?

                                        I've got both of them in the squad. If I had to pick one to start it would be Funaki, but I like Ratima more as an impact player which is why I've got him in the 23. His running game is awesome, not saying that Funaki doesn't have a running game, I just think Ratima against tiring defences could be a real weapon for the ABs.

                                        Not much in it tbh, some solid options at halfback. That's why I find it annoying that Christie is still in the conversation, he clearly isn't as good as these young guys coming through. Hotham is another that I'd rather have over Christie tbh. All will be revealed soon I suppose.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                                          But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                                          What team does Hotham play for again?

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                                          But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                                          What team does Hotham play for again?

                                          He plays for the Crusaders.

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