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All Blacks 2024

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  • Windows97W Offline
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    #2443

    It really just shows what a horrible year Stevenson's had given everyones form XV has Love starting at 15 now.

    Somehow hes managed to make his defence even worse this year, seems to have lost his try scoring touch and his much vanuted kicking game has dissapointed.

    Was his year to make a massive claim on the jersey especaily with Jordan getting injured so early and boy - has he missed.

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    • No QuarterN No Quarter

      The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

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      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

      He's worked hard at not immediately looking around for support once he's broken the defence as well.

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      • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

        With the modern game there is the luxury of subbing players at 60 minutes to see how they go.
        Sotutu for Savea, Proctor for R Ioane, Vaa'i for Patty and bring on Numia.
        Overall things are looking good.

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        #2445

        @BerniesCorner

        I agree, very good players coming through in almost every position, not all of them will make it through to be world-class Test player but a few will. I think the 2027 squad will be very strong indeed.

        The problem position for me is 10. For whatever reason, the NZ system is struggling badly at the minute to produce First Fives of any real quality.

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

          He's worked hard at not immediately looking around for support once he's broken the defence as well.

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          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

          He's worked hard at not immediately looking around for support once he's broken the defence as well.

          He is very good under the high ball, too.

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          • Landers92L Landers92

            @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            Probably scandalous to suggest - but I am wondering if they might pick Clarke and Reece ahead of Telea as the starting wings. I think both are playing a little better and both have test experience.

            Clarke is an out and out left winger so it’s between Tele’a, Narawa and Reece for the 14 jersey. The latter 3 can play on the left if needed but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

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            @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

            Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

              Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

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              @KiwiMurph

              It barely counts, but he also played 14 against Namibia at the RWC

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @Kiwiwomble same Telea and Reece over Clarke for me aswell. A back three of Telea, Reece and Love would be electric.

                If I had to pick an AB team to play England it would look like the following:

                1. De Groot
                2. Taylor
                3. Lomax
                4. Barrett
                5. Tuipolotu
                6. Finau
                7. Papali'i
                8. Savea (C) 🙂
                9. Perenara (he starts until Roigard gets back)
                10. McKenzie
                11. Telea
                12. Barrett
                13. Ioane
                14. Reece
                15. Love
                16. Aumua
                17. Williams
                18. Newell
                19. Vaai ?? I don't rate Vaai but I expect him to be there.
                20. Sotutu
                21. Ratima
                22. Barrett
                23. Proctor

                Rest of the squad for me would be:
                24. Taukei'aho
                25. Numia
                26. Tu'ungafasi
                27. Delany/McWhannell/Walker-Leawere/Darry - a bolter here, who knows who it will be.
                28. Lakai
                29. Blackadder - I think Razor will select his man.
                30. Funaki
                31. Leinert-Brown
                32. Clarke

                Squad reserves:
                33. another lock
                34. Jacobsen
                35. Plummer
                36. Stevenson

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                #2449

                @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                What team does Hotham play for again?

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

                  Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

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                  #2450

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

                  Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

                  I looked it up, back in 2019 he played most of the games at 14. Ioane was still playing 11 back then

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                  • DuluthD Duluth

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

                    Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

                    I looked it up, back in 2019 he played most of the games at 14. Ioane was still playing 11 back then

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                    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

                    Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

                    I looked it up, back in 2019 he played most of the games at 14. Ioane was still playing 11 back then

                    I stand corrected. I don’t recall that at all so thanks for that info.

                    Going to be interesting come selection time for sure

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                      But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                      What team does Hotham play for again?

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                      #2452

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                      But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                      What team does Hotham play for again?

                      I've got both of them in the squad. If I had to pick one to start it would be Funaki, but I like Ratima more as an impact player which is why I've got him in the 23. His running game is awesome, not saying that Funaki doesn't have a running game, I just think Ratima against tiring defences could be a real weapon for the ABs.

                      Not much in it tbh, some solid options at halfback. That's why I find it annoying that Christie is still in the conversation, he clearly isn't as good as these young guys coming through. Hotham is another that I'd rather have over Christie tbh. All will be revealed soon I suppose.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                        But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                        What team does Hotham play for again?

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                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                        But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                        What team does Hotham play for again?

                        He plays for the Crusaders.

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @Kiwiwomble same Telea and Reece over Clarke for me aswell. A back three of Telea, Reece and Love would be electric.

                          If I had to pick an AB team to play England it would look like the following:

                          1. De Groot
                          2. Taylor
                          3. Lomax
                          4. Barrett
                          5. Tuipolotu
                          6. Finau
                          7. Papali'i
                          8. Savea (C) 🙂
                          9. Perenara (he starts until Roigard gets back)
                          10. McKenzie
                          11. Telea
                          12. Barrett
                          13. Ioane
                          14. Reece
                          15. Love
                          16. Aumua
                          17. Williams
                          18. Newell
                          19. Vaai ?? I don't rate Vaai but I expect him to be there.
                          20. Sotutu
                          21. Ratima
                          22. Barrett
                          23. Proctor

                          Rest of the squad for me would be:
                          24. Taukei'aho
                          25. Numia
                          26. Tu'ungafasi
                          27. Delany/McWhannell/Walker-Leawere/Darry - a bolter here, who knows who it will be.
                          28. Lakai
                          29. Blackadder - I think Razor will select his man.
                          30. Funaki
                          31. Leinert-Brown
                          32. Clarke

                          Squad reserves:
                          33. another lock
                          34. Jacobsen
                          35. Plummer
                          36. Stevenson

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                          @Canes4life no Walker Leawere for me sorry. Otherwise, that looks a very strong squad

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                          • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                            But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                            What team does Hotham play for again?

                            He plays for the Crusaders.

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                            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                            But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                            What team does Hotham play for again?

                            He plays for the Crusaders.

                            Shitballs. Get him in there starting. He's been earmarked after all.

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                              But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                              What team does Hotham play for again?

                              He plays for the Crusaders.

                              Shitballs. Get him in there starting. He's been earmarked after all.

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                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                              But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                              What team does Hotham play for again?

                              He plays for the Crusaders.

                              Shitballs. Get him in there starting. He's been earmarked after all.

                              He has played well recently but shit, an AB based off three pretty good games? Hope not. But, and I know you said it in jest, he may well have been 'earmarked'. He was a standout in age grade so if (and it's a big if) Razor is going to select a development type player, Hotham is in with a chance.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                                But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                                What team does Hotham play for again?

                                He plays for the Crusaders.

                                Shitballs. Get him in there starting. He's been earmarked after all.

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                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                Shitballs. Get him in there starting. He's been earmarked after all.

                                A Hotham/Havili axis sounds awesome. Could be really exciting.

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                                  If Razor is going to pick a development type player, it will be a Crusader

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                                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                    If Razor is going to pick a development type player, it will be a Crusader

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                                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    If Razor is going to pick a development type player, it will be a Crusader

                                    Based on what evidence?

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                                      You can take the coach out of Canterbury but you can't take the Canterbury out of the coach.

                                      Also didn't he want Havili to play 10 as a "project". What. The. Fuck.

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                                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        Shitballs. Get him in there starting. He's been earmarked after all.

                                        A Hotham/Havili axis sounds awesome. Could be really exciting.

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        Shitballs. Get him in there starting. He's been earmarked after all.

                                        A Hotham/Havili axis sounds awesome. Could be really exciting.

                                        https://giphy.com/gifs/lol-laughing-charlie-murphy-l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji

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                                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          Shitballs. Get him in there starting. He's been earmarked after all.

                                          A Hotham/Havili axis sounds awesome. Could be really exciting.

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                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          Shitballs. Get him in there starting. He's been earmarked after all.

                                          A Hotham/Havili axis sounds awesome. Could be really exciting.

                                          Nice bait mate, very rancid

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