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All Blacks 2024

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  • G george33

    I'm putting it out there Dalton will be captain of The all blacks

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    @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I'm putting it out there Dalton will be captain of The all blacks

    No chance

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      I'm putting it out there Dalton will be captain of The all blacks

      No chance

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      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      I'm putting it out there Dalton will be captain of The all blacks

      No chance

      Very decent chance, been posed plenty before though, not exactly out there.

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      • BonesB Bones

        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        I'm putting it out there Dalton will be captain of The all blacks

        No chance

        Very decent chance, been posed plenty before though, not exactly out there.

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        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        I'm putting it out there Dalton will be captain of The all blacks

        No chance

        Very decent chance, been posed plenty before though, not exactly out there.

        Over Scott Barrett and Ardie Savea? I highly doubt it with Robertson as coach and hope it doesn’t happen tbh. Dalton isn’t a certainty to start either.

        It’s a three horse race between Barrett, Savea and Taylor for me and those are the names that have been thrown around in the media.

        Where did Dalton come from? Or is that just Fern speculation?

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          I'm putting it out there Dalton will be captain of The all blacks

          No chance

          Very decent chance, been posed plenty before though, not exactly out there.

          Over Scott Barrett and Ardie Savea? I highly doubt it with Robertson as coach and hope it doesn’t happen tbh. Dalton isn’t a certainty to start either.

          It’s a three horse race between Barrett, Savea and Taylor for me and those are the names that have been thrown around in the media.

          Where did Dalton come from? Or is that just Fern speculation?

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          @Canes4life two of your horses could pretty easily be surpassed by younger models in the next 3-4 years and the other is a hurricane.

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          • canefanC canefan

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            So on the Breakdown last night Kirwan was pushing for Riccitelli to be selected as one of the hookers. He's the sort of guy that doesn't make many mistakes but I wouldn't have him up there as one of the top three hookers.

            JK looking after the Italian boys

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            @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            So on the Breakdown last night Kirwan was pushing for Riccitelli to be selected as one of the hookers. He's the sort of guy that doesn't make many mistakes but I wouldn't have him up there as one of the top three hookers.

            JK looking after the Italian boys

            https://tenor.com/en-NZ/view/correcto-inglorious-bastards-basterds-si-gif-15487345

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            • BonesB Bones

              @Canes4life two of your horses could pretty easily be surpassed by younger models in the next 3-4 years and the other is a hurricane.

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              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Canes4life two of your horses could pretty easily be surpassed by younger models in the next 3-4 years and the other is a hurricane.

              The ‘Hurricane’ is also the best player in the world so you know there’s that.

              Dalton could also be taken over by others aswell so that’s a moot point.

              Let’s be honest, is Razor really going to pick a Blue as captain? Probably not. Is Dalton really AB captain material? Probably not. Will he select Barrett as his captain? Probably.

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                Savea hasn't impressed as a captain, and doesn't seem very smart. Barrett also seems pretty thick, but has better results as a captain.

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                • TimT Tim

                  Savea hasn't impressed as a captain, and doesn't seem very smart. Barrett also seems pretty thick, but has better results as a captain.

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                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  Savea hasn't impressed as a captain, and doesn't seem very smart. Barrett also seems pretty thick, but has better results as a captain.

                  Dalton doesn’t seem the sharpest tool either so is it slim pickings? Dalton just seems like another Cane for me. Solid without being dominant in all facets of what an international 7 should be.

                  If it’s all based on brains then Taylor probably gets the nod.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    Savea hasn't impressed as a captain, and doesn't seem very smart. Barrett also seems pretty thick, but has better results as a captain.

                    Dalton doesn’t seem the sharpest tool either so is it slim pickings? Dalton just seems like another Cane for me. Solid without being dominant in all facets of what an international 7 should be.

                    If it’s all based on brains then Taylor probably gets the nod.

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                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    Savea hasn't impressed as a captain, and doesn't seem very smart. Barrett also seems pretty thick, but has better results as a captain.

                    Dalton doesn’t seem the sharpest tool either so is it slim pickings? Dalton just seems like another Cane for me. Solid without being dominant in all facets of what an international 7 should be.

                    If it’s all based on brains then Taylor probably gets the nod.

                    Have you got access to their NCEA results or something ? How is Taylor “smarter” than the others ?

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      Savea hasn't impressed as a captain, and doesn't seem very smart. Barrett also seems pretty thick, but has better results as a captain.

                      Dalton doesn’t seem the sharpest tool either so is it slim pickings? Dalton just seems like another Cane for me. Solid without being dominant in all facets of what an international 7 should be.

                      If it’s all based on brains then Taylor probably gets the nod.

                      Have you got access to their NCEA results or something ? How is Taylor “smarter” than the others ?

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                      #2605

                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      Savea hasn't impressed as a captain, and doesn't seem very smart. Barrett also seems pretty thick, but has better results as a captain.

                      Dalton doesn’t seem the sharpest tool either so is it slim pickings? Dalton just seems like another Cane for me. Solid without being dominant in all facets of what an international 7 should be.

                      If it’s all based on brains then Taylor probably gets the nod.

                      Have you got access to their NCEA results or something ? How is Taylor “smarter” than the others ?

                      Taylor seems a little more articulate than the others from what I’ve seen.

                      The AB captain needs to be the best in their position. Barrett, Taylor and Savea tick that box, Dalton arguably doesn’t so that rules him out right away. I’m only echoing what’s been in the media. Dalton hasn’t been mentioned as a possibility from what I’ve read. Not sure why everyone’s getting so defensive.

                      Dalton isn’t even the Blues captain.

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        Savea hasn't impressed as a captain, and doesn't seem very smart. Barrett also seems pretty thick, but has better results as a captain.

                        Dalton doesn’t seem the sharpest tool either so is it slim pickings? Dalton just seems like another Cane for me. Solid without being dominant in all facets of what an international 7 should be.

                        If it’s all based on brains then Taylor probably gets the nod.

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                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        If it’s all based on brains then Taylor probably gets the nod.

                        This is the guy that does dumb shit every week even in super rugby?

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          If it’s all based on brains then Taylor probably gets the nod.

                          This is the guy that does dumb shit every week even in super rugby?

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                          @Bones you could say that about almost every player these days…

                          Barrett and Taylor are proven winners under Robertson so that will probably sway it in their favour.

                          I'm not too fussed who's captain tbh, I just want the ABs to get back to being dominant like we were 5-6 years ago.

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            If it’s all based on brains then Taylor probably gets the nod.

                            This is the guy that does dumb shit every week even in super rugby?

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                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            If it’s all based on brains then Taylor probably gets the nod.

                            This is the guy that does dumb shit every week even in super rugby?

                            …..an AB captain shouldn’t let Dane Coles get to him either but Taylor did.

                            Also is he clearly the best hooker ? Aumua has been sensational.

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              2024 All Blacks Management

                              Scott Robertson (Head Coach)

                              Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)

                              Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)

                              Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)

                              Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)

                              Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)

                              Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)

                              Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)

                              Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)

                              Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)

                              Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)

                              Nic Gill (Head of Performance)

                              Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)

                              Martin Swan (Doctor)

                              Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)

                              Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)

                              Kat Darry (Dietician)

                              Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)

                              Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)

                              James Iversen (Logistics Manager)

                              Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

                              Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)

                              Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)

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                              ruggabee
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                              #2609

                              @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              2024 All Blacks Management

                              Scott Robertson (Head Coach)

                              Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)

                              Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)

                              Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)

                              Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)

                              Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)

                              Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)

                              Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)

                              Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)

                              Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)

                              Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)

                              Nic Gill (Head of Performance)

                              Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)

                              Martin Swan (Doctor)

                              Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)

                              Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)

                              Kat Darry (Dietician)

                              Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)

                              Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)

                              James Iversen (Logistics Manager)

                              Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

                              Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)

                              Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)

                              Um, this was put out 5 months ago wasn't it?

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                Savea hasn't impressed as a captain, and doesn't seem very smart. Barrett also seems pretty thick, but has better results as a captain.

                                Dalton doesn’t seem the sharpest tool either so is it slim pickings? Dalton just seems like another Cane for me. Solid without being dominant in all facets of what an international 7 should be.

                                If it’s all based on brains then Taylor probably gets the nod.

                                Have you got access to their NCEA results or something ? How is Taylor “smarter” than the others ?

                                Taylor seems a little more articulate than the others from what I’ve seen.

                                The AB captain needs to be the best in their position. Barrett, Taylor and Savea tick that box, Dalton arguably doesn’t so that rules him out right away. I’m only echoing what’s been in the media. Dalton hasn’t been mentioned as a possibility from what I’ve read. Not sure why everyone’s getting so defensive.

                                Dalton isn’t even the Blues captain.

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                                @Canes4life If you appoint Taylor as captain then you need a trusted VC as Taylor won't be playing the full 80 mins.

                                Using @Tim's criteria, I'm with you on Papalii. He's not exactly Mensa material.

                                I think it will be SB but the back injury could be a concern.

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                                  I just think it's rather ill advised to categorically rule out Papalii. But then I guess it does make it tougher for Lakai and Iose to get a shot if he's captain, so I understand the horror.

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                                    What I'm hearing is that Ethan Blackadder should be captain?

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                                    • R ruggabee

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      2024 All Blacks Management

                                      Scott Robertson (Head Coach)

                                      Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)

                                      Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)

                                      Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)

                                      Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)

                                      Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)

                                      Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)

                                      Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)

                                      Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)

                                      Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)

                                      Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)

                                      Nic Gill (Head of Performance)

                                      Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)

                                      Martin Swan (Doctor)

                                      Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)

                                      Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)

                                      Kat Darry (Dietician)

                                      Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)

                                      Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)

                                      James Iversen (Logistics Manager)

                                      Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

                                      Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)

                                      Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)

                                      Um, this was put out 5 months ago wasn't it?

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                                      @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      2024 All Blacks Management

                                      Scott Robertson (Head Coach)

                                      Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)

                                      Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)

                                      Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)

                                      Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)

                                      Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)

                                      Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)

                                      Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)

                                      Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)

                                      Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)

                                      Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)

                                      Nic Gill (Head of Performance)

                                      Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)

                                      Martin Swan (Doctor)

                                      Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)

                                      Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)

                                      Kat Darry (Dietician)

                                      Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)

                                      Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)

                                      James Iversen (Logistics Manager)

                                      Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

                                      Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)

                                      Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)

                                      Um, this was put out 5 months ago wasn't it?

                                      Yeah what has that got do with anything I put it up becomes people were wondering what the roles are.

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                                      • M Mr Fish

                                        What I'm hearing is that Ethan Blackadder should be captain?

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                                        @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        What I'm hearing is that Ethan Blackadder should be captain?

                                        Well his Dad was selected as a specialist captain despite not being the best in his position…..

                                        ….and EB doesn’t play enough to prove things either way so why not ?

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          I just think it's rather ill advised to categorically rule out Papalii. But then I guess it does make it tougher for Lakai and Iose to get a shot if he's captain, so I understand the horror.

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          I just think it's rather ill advised to categorically rule out Papalii. But then I guess it does make it tougher for Lakai and Iose to get a shot if he's captain, so I understand the horror.

                                          Iose isn't a 7 and even I can admit Lakai won't be getting many mins this year if selected. Player of the future for sure.

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