All Blacks 2024

Victor Meldrew

@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

2024 All Blacks Management

Scott Robertson (Head Coach)

Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)

Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)

Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)

Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)

Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)

Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)

Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)

Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)

Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)

Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)

Nic Gill (Head of Performance)

Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)

Martin Swan (Doctor)

Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)

Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)

Kat Darry (Dietician)

Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)

Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)

James Iversen (Logistics Manager)

Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)

Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)

Fuck me. More coaches and managers than a small country's rail network.

DaGrubster

@Victor-Meldrew

Or they are bringing in specialisation to the selection process enabling closer scrutiny to pick their best players that fit into the wider gameplan.

It’s a different approach which may work better.

Having said that, I’m not sure how hard it is to pick a squad of 32 out of 170 odd players.

Most posters on here would be able to get 90% of the squad correct anyway.

Dan54

@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

Be good to have the captain fuck off shortly after getting used to his role.

But he wouldn't be going when he is doing his role. Basiacally he redundant as captain during super anyway because team isn't playing. I can't really recall any AB captain having anytjing to do with his role at that time.
I have no opinion on whether he should be captain, but taking time off during super ,I wouldn't think would or should be a big factor.

Victor Meldrew

@DaGrubster
Was slightly taking the piss, but it seems way more convoluted than it need be.

Plenty of scapegoats if things go tits up though.

Bones

@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

Be good to have the captain fuck off shortly after getting used to his role.

But he wouldn't be going when he is doing his role. Basiacally he redundant as captain during super anyway because team isn't playing. I can't really recall any AB captain having anytjing to do with his role at that time.
I have no opinion on whether he should be captain, but taking time off during super ,I wouldn't think would or should be a big factor.

The powers that be know best as always Dan

He would be fucking off right in the middle of his role, don't be ridiculous

DaGrubster

@Victor-Meldrew

Ah fair enough,

I like the idea of it. As long as there is crystal clear clarity on the requirements of specific positions based on the gameplan.

Windows97

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@Chris-B

I'm sure I saw that Hansen will be in that mix. He feels like Razor's Smith to me so I imagine he gets a voice

They broke it up as follows as far as responsibility for selections are made, this according to an interview with Razor before SR.

Ryan tight 5
Razor LF's
Hansen HBs and First fives
Holland MF
McDonald outside backs

Overseen by Razor with Wayne Smiths in put.

Genius. Just set up 2-3 sub-committees to co-ordinate selection and we'll be sweet.

The funny bit is that it's been stated that Razor will be the one to make the decision if there are disagreements.

Exactly how are there going to be disagreements here? Is Ryan going to disagree with himself as to who the tight 5 are? An enormus shouting match between Holland and McDonald as to whether JB is a 2nd 5 or a fullback? A stoush between Ryan and Razor if SB is a lock or a 6?

booboo

@ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

Just pick the entire Canes backrow including bench i won't complain Flanders Lakai Iose,Savea Kirifi off the pine yeah boyyy- size power dynamism agility speed...what more could you possibly ask for??

Brayden Iose

Dan54

@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

Be good to have the captain fuck off shortly after getting used to his role.

But he wouldn't be going when he is doing his role. Basiacally he redundant as captain during super anyway because team isn't playing. I can't really recall any AB captain having anytjing to do with his role at that time.
I have no opinion on whether he should be captain, but taking time off during super ,I wouldn't think would or should be a big factor.

The powers that be know best as always Dan

He would be fucking off right in the middle of his role, don't be ridiculous

Well we got no AB captain now and I not sure it hurts. Mind you , I would be quite happy if they just named captain year by year, so noone feels they got mortgage on it or jersy. But that me probably just showing age?

KiwiMurph

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

The media comms should improve from that shambles of a lady that was around during Fozzie's tenure.

Canes4life

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

The media comms should improve from that shambles of a lady that was around during Fozzie's tenure.

Matt Manukia was there when Fozzie was. He was definitely there during the WC.

SouthernMann

@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

The media comms should improve from that shambles of a lady that was around during Fozzie's tenure.

Matt Manukia was there when Fozzie was. He was definitely there during the WC.

And he has recently handed his ticket in. Haven't seen the role advertised either. Considering how demanding it is, in terms of time away from home,pay is similar to what decent public service roles are. I think last time it came up, it was around 130 - 140kish. So may be add another 5% to that amount. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/media-insider-newshub-nation-presenter-joins-nbr-all-blacks-comms-boss-quits/UR5Q6VMITZERRPU4R5VEIO3JZM/

KiwiMurph

@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

The media comms should improve from that shambles of a lady that was around during Fozzie's tenure.

Matt Manukia was there when Fozzie was. He was definitely there during the WC.

Ah thanks. I guess my wider point was I don't see the lady there from Fozzie's reign.

nostrildamus

@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@Chris-B

I'm sure I saw that Hansen will be in that mix. He feels like Razor's Smith to me so I imagine he gets a voice

They broke it up as follows as far as responsibility for selections are made, this according to an interview with Razor before SR.

Ryan tight 5
Razor LF's
Hansen HBs and First fives
Holland MF
McDonald outside backs

Overseen by Razor with Wayne Smiths in put.

Genius. Just set up 2-3 sub-committees to co-ordinate selection and we'll be sweet.

The funny bit is that it's been stated that Razor will be the one to make the decision if there are disagreements.

Exactly how are there going to be disagreements here? Is Ryan going to disagree with himself as to who the tight 5 are? An enormus shouting match between Holland and McDonald as to whether JB is a 2nd 5 or a fullback? A stoush between Ryan and Razor if SB is a lock or a 6?

Um, it isn't as if we don't have enough 6s and too many international quality locks..

Windows97

I really needed to type that in saracasm font didn't I?

dogmeat

@Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

the whole Breakdown panel

Those are the dumbest people in NZ, and Jeff Wilson is the stupidest person in the entire world.

excuse me. No way is Goldie dumber than me

ruggabee

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

2024 All Blacks Management

Scott Robertson (Head Coach)

Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)

Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)

Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)

Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)

Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)

Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)

Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)

Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)

Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)

Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)

Nic Gill (Head of Performance)

Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)

Martin Swan (Doctor)

Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)

Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)

Kat Darry (Dietician)

Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)

Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)

James Iversen (Logistics Manager)

Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)

Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)

Fuck me. More coaches and managers than a small country's rail network.

I don't know why anyone would be remotely surprised about this unless they're still living in the 1990's?

All tier-1 setups look like this now, your minds would blow seeing the size of an NFL setup, also the team at 2023 World Cup was even bigger as there were 7 on-field coaches altogether with Foster, Schmidt, Strawbridge, McLeod, Hill, Ryan, Feek - along with the same amount of managerial staff that's listed here.

Victor Meldrew

@ruggabee

I'm sure. Seeing the whole caboodle in one list can still make you scratch your head though.

pakman

@Victor-Meldrew A few pints of Stella will ease the pain.

Old Samurai Jack

@dogmeat said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

the whole Breakdown panel

Those are the dumbest people in NZ, and Jeff Wilson is the stupidest person in the entire world.

excuse me. No way is Goldie dumber than me

Your self-reflection skills exceeds that of others.

The Silver Fern

All Blacks 2024