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All Blacks 2024

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    There's force there!!!

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      Jacobson is everything Blackadder fluffers wish he was

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        Jacobson is everything Blackadder fluffers wish he was

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        @mariner4life He's hit form at the right time. He'd be selected as backup 7 though.

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        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

          Jacobson seems to have some lovers and haters on here. At AB level is he an 8, a 6, a backup 7? Seems to me he isn't first pick in any of those positions and in the past hasn't quite carried Chiefs impact factor consistently at higher levels.

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          @nostrildamus I'm not saying Jacobson starts for the ABs, only that he is worthy of being in the squad. I still prefer him at no.8 but he has shown he can play 7 as well, and wins breakdown turnovers.

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          • TimT Tim

            @mariner4life He's hit form at the right time. He'd be selected as backup 7 though.

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            @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @mariner4life He's hit form at the right time. He'd be selected as backup 7 though.

            And I'm happy with that. Works hard. Hits hard. Is effective.

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              Any word on whether Josh Lord is going to be available? I'm guessing no. How about Scott Barrett?

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @sparky why

                Running game, quick pass, gets the ball out fast, and as Rakete-Stones can attest, can hit like a truck.

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                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @sparky why

                Running game, quick pass, gets the ball out fast, and as Rakete-Stones can attest, can hit like a truck.

                Yeah ... seriously embarrassment getting smashed like that by a ruck rat (TM @Smuts )

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                  Interestingly Fabian Holland heading off to London to play for the Barbarians against Fiji.

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                    For the Hurricanes, think IWL and Lakai would've done their chances of selection no harm.

                    For the Chiefs, Jacobson, Sititi, Narawa, Ratima boosted their chances.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      Any word on whether Josh Lord is going to be available? I'm guessing no. How about Scott Barrett?

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                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      Any word on whether Josh Lord is going to be available?

                      He is out for SR and hasn't played any club rugby yet.

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                        • gt12G Offline
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                          I’m glad to see that people have mentioned Jacobson. He’s playing in his best position to get an AB cap again - he’s incredibly similar to Paps and can play all three positions well.

                          He’s there for the bench when Blackadder gets injured.

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                          • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                            In fact with the current injury to Roigard it would be silly not to pick a Ratima- DMac combo

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                            @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            In fact with the current injury to Roigard it would be silly not to pick a Ratima- DMac combo

                            Can be a risk having a rookie 9 start a Test, but on balance I hope you're right. Want to see TJP's experience on the bench in case it does go tits up though.

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              There's force there!!!

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                              @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              There's force there!!!

                              Yeah, seriously? In a tackle? Force?

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                              • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                In fact with the current injury to Roigard it would be silly not to pick a Ratima- DMac combo

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                                @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                In fact with the current injury to Roigard it would be silly not to pick a Ratima- DMac combo

                                Too many Chiefs. Only one token makes the squad…

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                                  Reckon Ratima played himself into the ABs tonight.

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                                    @Stag said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    Ratima, Fakatava & Hotham for the halfback positions with Christy next off the rank

                                    Perenara will be picked.

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                                    @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    @Stag said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    Ratima, Fakatava & Hotham for the halfback positions with Christy next off the rank

                                    Perenara will be picked.

                                    Maybe not after his display today.

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                                      My updated barometer...

                                      Hookers
                                      Codie Taylor - 100%
                                      Samisoni Taukei'aho - 100% (if fit)
                                      Asafo Aumua - 100%
                                      Ricky Riccitelli - 50% (new)
                                      George Bell - 50% (new)

                                      Props
                                      Ethan de Groot - 100%
                                      Tyrel Lomax - 100%
                                      Fletcher Newell - 100%
                                      Tamaiti Williams - 80%
                                      Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 60%
                                      Xaver Numia - 50%
                                      George Bower - 50%
                                      George Dyer - 10%

                                      Locks
                                      Scott Barrett - 100%
                                      Tupou Vaa'i - 100%
                                      Quinten Strange - 70% (down)
                                      Sam Darry - 50%
                                      Isaia Walker-Leawere - 50% (up)
                                      Naitoa Ah Kuoi - 20% (down)
                                      Jamie Hannah - 10% (down)

                                      Loose forwards
                                      Ardie Savea - 100%
                                      Dalton Papali'i - 100%
                                      Samipeni Finau - 60% (down)
                                      Ethan Blackadder - 50% (down)
                                      Christian Lio-Willie - 50%
                                      Peter Lakai - 50%
                                      Luke Jacobson - 50% (up)
                                      Hoskins Sotutu - 40% (down)
                                      Wallace Sititi - 30% (new)
                                      Brayden Iose - 20% (down)

                                      Halfbacks
                                      Finlay Christie - 80%
                                      TJ Perenara - 80%
                                      Cortez Ratima - 80% (up)
                                      Taufa Funaki - 30% (down)
                                      Folau Fakatava - 20% (down)
                                      Noah Hotham - 10% (down)

                                      First fives
                                      Damian McKenzie - 100%
                                      Beauden Barrett - 100%
                                      Harry Plummer - 60% (up)
                                      Cam Millar - 10%

                                      Midfield
                                      Jordie Barrett - 100%
                                      Anton Lienert-Brown - 100%
                                      Rieko Ioane - 100%
                                      Billy Proctor - 60% (down)
                                      David Havili - 25% (up)
                                      Quinn Tupaea - 10%
                                      Rameka Poihipi - 5%

                                      Outside backs
                                      Mark Tele'a - 100%
                                      Sevu Reece - 90% (down)
                                      Ruben Love - 80% (down)
                                      Caleb Clarke - 80%
                                      Emoni Narawa - 70% (up)
                                      Etene Nanai-Seturo - 10%

                                      Props/loose forwards comes down to which position they select six players in. Thinking like loose forward at the moment, given so many guys are putting their hands up. Someone like Finau could also double as a lock selection.

                                      Sititi obviously played well this weekend but is he a better option than Sotutu? They're remarkably similar players - there might only be room for one.

                                      Feels likely we'll see Perenara, Christie and Ratima as the halves. Roigard comes in for one of Perenara or Christie when he's fit and then ideally one of the other options will get a full run starting in Super Rugby next year.

                                      Outside backs is tough. Reece, Tele'a, Clarke and Narawa all justify selection as wings. Do you select all four and go for just two first five options (Barrett and McKenzie) or bring someone like Plummer in? Maybe a straight shoot-out between Plummer and Love for a spot.

                                      Proctor has done enough all season to justify selection as the fourth midfielder but was struggling towards the end of the game.

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                                        And for what it's worth, my own personal selection would be:

                                        Hookers - Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua, Samisoni Taukei'aho
                                        Props - Ethan de Groot, Tamati Williams, Xavier Numia*, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Tyrel Lomax, Fletcher Newell
                                        Locks - Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa'i, Sam Darry*, Isaia Walker-Leawere*
                                        Loose forwards - Samipeni Finau, Ethan Blackadder, Dalton Papali'i, Peter Lakai*, Ardie Savea
                                        Halfback - Cortez Ratima*, TJ Perenara, Finlay Christie
                                        First Five - Damian McKenzie, Harry Plummer*, Beauden Barrett
                                        Midfield - Jordie Barrett, Billy Proctor*, Anton Lienert-Brown, Rieko Ioane
                                        Outside backs - Caleb Clarke, Mark Tele'a, Sevu Reece, Ruben Love*

                                        Injury cover
                                        Taukei'aho - Tyrone Thompson
                                        Numia - Luke Jacobson (more loosies putting their hands up than props at this stage)
                                        Proctor - David Havili

                                        With the first team to play England: Barrett, Reece, Lienert-Brown, Barrett, Tele'a, McKenzie, Ratima, Savea, Papali'i, Blackadder, Vaa'i, Barrett, Lomax, Taylor, De Groot. Reserves: Taukei'aho(/Aumua), Numia (/Tu'ungafasi), Newell, Darry, Finau, Christie, Ioane, Love.

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                                        • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

                                          Interestingly Fabian Holland heading off to London to play for the Barbarians against Fiji.

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                                          @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          Interestingly Fabian Holland heading off to London to play for the Barbarians against Fiji.

                                          A free trip to Europe to visit the family.

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