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All Blacks 2024

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  • BonesB Bones

    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Landers92

    They use him well too - he’s a gainline specialist at 12 and helps with the carry clean game plan really effectively.

    His defense has been really impressive to me - that shit isn’t easy.

    If he can develop a kicking game, similar to what Nonu developed into the later years in his career, the blues have their long term answer at 12 for sure. As a Landers fan, I’m fucking jealous.

    Didn't he make the first open play kick of the game? A really well directed hoof with great distance, down the middle?

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Landers92

    They use him well too - he’s a gainline specialist at 12 and helps with the carry clean game plan really effectively.

    His defense has been really impressive to me - that shit isn’t easy.

    If he can develop a kicking game, similar to what Nonu developed into the later years in his career, the blues have their long term answer at 12 for sure. As a Landers fan, I’m fucking jealous.

    Didn't he make the first open play kick of the game? A really well directed hoof with great distance, down the middle?

    Haha come on maaaate. I’ve just praised the guy, no need to knit pick my comment😂 I’m talking a more tactical kicking, short range kicking etc. Not just hoof upfield.

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    • Landers92L Landers92

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @Landers92

      They use him well too - he’s a gainline specialist at 12 and helps with the carry clean game plan really effectively.

      His defense has been really impressive to me - that shit isn’t easy.

      If he can develop a kicking game, similar to what Nonu developed into the later years in his career, the blues have their long term answer at 12 for sure. As a Landers fan, I’m fucking jealous.

      Didn't he make the first open play kick of the game? A really well directed hoof with great distance, down the middle?

      Haha come on maaaate. I’ve just praised the guy, no need to knit pick my comment😂 I’m talking a more tactical kicking, short range kicking etc. Not just hoof upfield.

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      @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @Landers92

      They use him well too - he’s a gainline specialist at 12 and helps with the carry clean game plan really effectively.

      His defense has been really impressive to me - that shit isn’t easy.

      If he can develop a kicking game, similar to what Nonu developed into the later years in his career, the blues have their long term answer at 12 for sure. As a Landers fan, I’m fucking jealous.

      Didn't he make the first open play kick of the game? A really well directed hoof with great distance, down the middle?

      Haha come on maaaate. I’ve just praised the guy, no need to knit pick my comment😂 I’m talking a more tactical kicking, short range kicking etc. Not just hoof upfield.

      The fuck? Where was I nitpicking?

      I agree wholeheartedly it would be good to see if he's got a kicking game - but that was a bloody good sign it might be there (and just not required for the blues).

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        Lam nearly scored a great try in the semi final by grubbering a ball on the ground towards the goal line

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        • BonesB Bones

          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @Landers92

          They use him well too - he’s a gainline specialist at 12 and helps with the carry clean game plan really effectively.

          His defense has been really impressive to me - that shit isn’t easy.

          If he can develop a kicking game, similar to what Nonu developed into the later years in his career, the blues have their long term answer at 12 for sure. As a Landers fan, I’m fucking jealous.

          Didn't he make the first open play kick of the game? A really well directed hoof with great distance, down the middle?

          Haha come on maaaate. I’ve just praised the guy, no need to knit pick my comment😂 I’m talking a more tactical kicking, short range kicking etc. Not just hoof upfield.

          The fuck? Where was I nitpicking?

          I agree wholeheartedly it would be good to see if he's got a kicking game - but that was a bloody good sign it might be there (and just not required for the blues).

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          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @Landers92

          They use him well too - he’s a gainline specialist at 12 and helps with the carry clean game plan really effectively.

          His defense has been really impressive to me - that shit isn’t easy.

          If he can develop a kicking game, similar to what Nonu developed into the later years in his career, the blues have their long term answer at 12 for sure. As a Landers fan, I’m fucking jealous.

          Didn't he make the first open play kick of the game? A really well directed hoof with great distance, down the middle?

          Haha come on maaaate. I’ve just praised the guy, no need to knit pick my comment😂 I’m talking a more tactical kicking, short range kicking etc. Not just hoof upfield.

          The fuck? Where was I nitpicking?

          I agree wholeheartedly it would be good to see if he's got a kicking game - but that was a bloody good sign it might be there (and just not required for the blues).

          Ah all good. Taken the comment the wrong way. Yeah agree, I was more meaning that tactical and short range stuff similar to your Nonus of the world.

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              #3570

              @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful

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              • D DaGrubster

                @Victor-Meldrew

                Picking a non white as opposed to picking the right person for the job , regardless of colour etc

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                @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                Picking a non white as opposed to picking the right person for the job , regardless of colour etc

                Diversity picks can be good or bad

                Bad is what we often or sometimes have today. Where a person is appointed in preference to someone who is much better based on ability just because they tick the right boxes.

                Good is when someone is appointed who is equal to another based on ability but they are chosen because they add to the mix and is appropriate. As Savea as captain would be

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                • TimT Away
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                  #3572

                  So, last year the ABs had a rather bad run with cards. Red against SA, two Yellows against France, then Red again against SA. What's the plan to fix this?

                  (Of course, Kolisi hit Savea head to head, and maybe in the air from a lineout take - Barnes is an absolute fuckwit.)

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                  • WingerW Winger

                    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    Picking a non white as opposed to picking the right person for the job , regardless of colour etc

                    Diversity picks can be good or bad

                    Bad is what we often or sometimes have today. Where a person is appointed in preference to someone who is much better based on ability just because they tick the right boxes.

                    Good is when someone is appointed who is equal to another based on ability but they are chosen because they add to the mix and is appropriate. As Savea as captain would be

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                    @Winger

                    I am happy with either choice.

                    There was an article on Savea as captain by Gregor Paul in the herald.

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful

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                      #3574

                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful

                      Well at least there is some rationale about why he is the AB coach now.
                      Not some bollocks from NZR which has been the status quo for far too long.

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                      • TimT Away
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                        #3575

                        If you watch the documentary about the last world cup, the footage makes clear that Rieko Ioane's distribution and running lines were both sublime. Best centre in the world by a mile.

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                          @Daffy-Jaffy I thought that was weaker than Part 1.

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                          • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful

                            Well at least there is some rationale about why he is the AB coach now.
                            Not some bollocks from NZR which has been the status quo for far too long.

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                            @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful

                            Well at least there is some rationale about why he is the AB coach now.
                            Not some bollocks from NZR which has been the status quo for far too long.

                            If winning 2 RWC's out of 4 and losing one by only 1 point with 14 men is "status quo bollocks", it's been pretty damn successful status quo bollocks.

                            NZR's rationale now is to try something completely new - a bloke who's been successful with one Canterbury-based side and with zero Test experience. It's a bold move for sure, one we hope will pay off.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              If you watch the documentary about the last world cup, the footage makes clear that Rieko Ioane's distribution and running lines were both sublime. Best centre in the world by a mile.

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                              @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              If you watch the documentary about the last world cup, the footage makes clear that Rieko Ioane's distribution and running lines were both sublime. Best centre in the world by a mile.

                              He's getting there and has to be first of the AB team sheet, but I'd rate Am (when fit) and Fickou above him.

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                                Richard Knowler doesn't seem to know exactly who will be in the AB squad.

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350320280/all-blacks-all-you-need-know-ahead-squad-naming-day

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                                  Liam Napier prediction for the Herald:

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/the-new-faces-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-could-call-up-for-his-first-squad-of-2024-liam-napier/UO2RDEAHLFACDKQTLHSJXP5AQE/

                                  Predicted All Blacks squad:
                                  Props: Tyrel Lomax, Ethan de Groot, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Fletcher Newell, Tamaiti Williams, George Bower

                                  Hookers: Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua, Ricky Riccitelli (uncapped)

                                  Locks: Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa’i, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Darry (uncapped)

                                  Loose forwards: Ardie Savea, Dalton Papali’i, Hoskins Sotutu, Luke Jacobson, Ethan Blackadder/Samipeni Finau

                                  Halfback: T.J. Perenara, Cortez Ratima (uncapped), Finlay Christie

                                  First five-eighths: Damian McKenzie, Beauden Barrett

                                  Midfielders: Jordie Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Rieko Ioane, Billy Proctor (uncapped)

                                  Outside backs: Ruben Love (uncapped), Caleb Clarke, Emoni Narawa, Sevu Reece, Mark Tele’a

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                                    Not picking a lot of six options.

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                                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                      @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful

                                      Well at least there is some rationale about why he is the AB coach now.
                                      Not some bollocks from NZR which has been the status quo for far too long.

                                      If winning 2 RWC's out of 4 and losing one by only 1 point with 14 men is "status quo bollocks", it's been pretty damn successful status quo bollocks.

                                      NZR's rationale now is to try something completely new - a bloke who's been successful with one Canterbury-based side and with zero Test experience. It's a bold move for sure, one we hope will pay off.

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                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      a bloke who's been successful with one Canterbury-based side

                                      Isn't it three?

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        Liam Napier prediction for the Herald:

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/the-new-faces-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-could-call-up-for-his-first-squad-of-2024-liam-napier/UO2RDEAHLFACDKQTLHSJXP5AQE/

                                        Predicted All Blacks squad:
                                        Props: Tyrel Lomax, Ethan de Groot, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Fletcher Newell, Tamaiti Williams, George Bower

                                        Hookers: Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua, Ricky Riccitelli (uncapped)

                                        Locks: Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa’i, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Darry (uncapped)

                                        Loose forwards: Ardie Savea, Dalton Papali’i, Hoskins Sotutu, Luke Jacobson, Ethan Blackadder/Samipeni Finau

                                        Halfback: T.J. Perenara, Cortez Ratima (uncapped), Finlay Christie

                                        First five-eighths: Damian McKenzie, Beauden Barrett

                                        Midfielders: Jordie Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Rieko Ioane, Billy Proctor (uncapped)

                                        Outside backs: Ruben Love (uncapped), Caleb Clarke, Emoni Narawa, Sevu Reece, Mark Tele’a

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                                        @Tim I mostly like it, but who plays 6? Scott Barrett?

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