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All Blacks 2024

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      @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful

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        Picking a non white as opposed to picking the right person for the job , regardless of colour etc

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        @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        Picking a non white as opposed to picking the right person for the job , regardless of colour etc

        Diversity picks can be good or bad

        Bad is what we often or sometimes have today. Where a person is appointed in preference to someone who is much better based on ability just because they tick the right boxes.

        Good is when someone is appointed who is equal to another based on ability but they are chosen because they add to the mix and is appropriate. As Savea as captain would be

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          So, last year the ABs had a rather bad run with cards. Red against SA, two Yellows against France, then Red again against SA. What's the plan to fix this?

          (Of course, Kolisi hit Savea head to head, and maybe in the air from a lineout take - Barnes is an absolute fuckwit.)

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          • WingerW Winger

            @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            Picking a non white as opposed to picking the right person for the job , regardless of colour etc

            Diversity picks can be good or bad

            Bad is what we often or sometimes have today. Where a person is appointed in preference to someone who is much better based on ability just because they tick the right boxes.

            Good is when someone is appointed who is equal to another based on ability but they are chosen because they add to the mix and is appropriate. As Savea as captain would be

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            @Winger

            I am happy with either choice.

            There was an article on Savea as captain by Gregor Paul in the herald.

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            • canefanC canefan

              @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful

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              @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful

              Well at least there is some rationale about why he is the AB coach now.
              Not some bollocks from NZR which has been the status quo for far too long.

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                If you watch the documentary about the last world cup, the footage makes clear that Rieko Ioane's distribution and running lines were both sublime. Best centre in the world by a mile.

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                  @Daffy-Jaffy I thought that was weaker than Part 1.

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                  • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful

                    Well at least there is some rationale about why he is the AB coach now.
                    Not some bollocks from NZR which has been the status quo for far too long.

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                    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful

                    Well at least there is some rationale about why he is the AB coach now.
                    Not some bollocks from NZR which has been the status quo for far too long.

                    If winning 2 RWC's out of 4 and losing one by only 1 point with 14 men is "status quo bollocks", it's been pretty damn successful status quo bollocks.

                    NZR's rationale now is to try something completely new - a bloke who's been successful with one Canterbury-based side and with zero Test experience. It's a bold move for sure, one we hope will pay off.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      If you watch the documentary about the last world cup, the footage makes clear that Rieko Ioane's distribution and running lines were both sublime. Best centre in the world by a mile.

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                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      If you watch the documentary about the last world cup, the footage makes clear that Rieko Ioane's distribution and running lines were both sublime. Best centre in the world by a mile.

                      He's getting there and has to be first of the AB team sheet, but I'd rate Am (when fit) and Fickou above him.

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                        Richard Knowler doesn't seem to know exactly who will be in the AB squad.

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350320280/all-blacks-all-you-need-know-ahead-squad-naming-day

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                          Liam Napier prediction for the Herald:

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/the-new-faces-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-could-call-up-for-his-first-squad-of-2024-liam-napier/UO2RDEAHLFACDKQTLHSJXP5AQE/

                          Predicted All Blacks squad:
                          Props: Tyrel Lomax, Ethan de Groot, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Fletcher Newell, Tamaiti Williams, George Bower

                          Hookers: Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua, Ricky Riccitelli (uncapped)

                          Locks: Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa’i, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Darry (uncapped)

                          Loose forwards: Ardie Savea, Dalton Papali’i, Hoskins Sotutu, Luke Jacobson, Ethan Blackadder/Samipeni Finau

                          Halfback: T.J. Perenara, Cortez Ratima (uncapped), Finlay Christie

                          First five-eighths: Damian McKenzie, Beauden Barrett

                          Midfielders: Jordie Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Rieko Ioane, Billy Proctor (uncapped)

                          Outside backs: Ruben Love (uncapped), Caleb Clarke, Emoni Narawa, Sevu Reece, Mark Tele’a

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                            Not picking a lot of six options.

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                              @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful

                              Well at least there is some rationale about why he is the AB coach now.
                              Not some bollocks from NZR which has been the status quo for far too long.

                              If winning 2 RWC's out of 4 and losing one by only 1 point with 14 men is "status quo bollocks", it's been pretty damn successful status quo bollocks.

                              NZR's rationale now is to try something completely new - a bloke who's been successful with one Canterbury-based side and with zero Test experience. It's a bold move for sure, one we hope will pay off.

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                              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              a bloke who's been successful with one Canterbury-based side

                              Isn't it three?

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                                Liam Napier prediction for the Herald:

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/the-new-faces-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-could-call-up-for-his-first-squad-of-2024-liam-napier/UO2RDEAHLFACDKQTLHSJXP5AQE/

                                Predicted All Blacks squad:
                                Props: Tyrel Lomax, Ethan de Groot, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Fletcher Newell, Tamaiti Williams, George Bower

                                Hookers: Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua, Ricky Riccitelli (uncapped)

                                Locks: Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa’i, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Darry (uncapped)

                                Loose forwards: Ardie Savea, Dalton Papali’i, Hoskins Sotutu, Luke Jacobson, Ethan Blackadder/Samipeni Finau

                                Halfback: T.J. Perenara, Cortez Ratima (uncapped), Finlay Christie

                                First five-eighths: Damian McKenzie, Beauden Barrett

                                Midfielders: Jordie Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Rieko Ioane, Billy Proctor (uncapped)

                                Outside backs: Ruben Love (uncapped), Caleb Clarke, Emoni Narawa, Sevu Reece, Mark Tele’a

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                                @Tim I mostly like it, but who plays 6? Scott Barrett?

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                                    Liam Napier prediction for the Herald:

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/the-new-faces-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-could-call-up-for-his-first-squad-of-2024-liam-napier/UO2RDEAHLFACDKQTLHSJXP5AQE/

                                    Predicted All Blacks squad:
                                    Props: Tyrel Lomax, Ethan de Groot, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Fletcher Newell, Tamaiti Williams, George Bower

                                    Hookers: Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua, Ricky Riccitelli (uncapped)

                                    Locks: Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa’i, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Darry (uncapped)

                                    Loose forwards: Ardie Savea, Dalton Papali’i, Hoskins Sotutu, Luke Jacobson, Ethan Blackadder/Samipeni Finau

                                    Halfback: T.J. Perenara, Cortez Ratima (uncapped), Finlay Christie

                                    First five-eighths: Damian McKenzie, Beauden Barrett

                                    Midfielders: Jordie Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Rieko Ioane, Billy Proctor (uncapped)

                                    Outside backs: Ruben Love (uncapped), Caleb Clarke, Emoni Narawa, Sevu Reece, Mark Tele’a

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                                    @Tim I also think Harry Plummer should get the call.

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                                      Richard Knowler has named what he thinks the squad will be.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350320348/all-blacks-who-will-be-bolters-when-32-man-squad-revealed-monday

                                      Love, Telea, Reece, Clarke, Narawa

                                      Reiko Ioane, ALB, J Barrett

                                      DMac, Beauden Barrett, Plummer

                                      Ratima, Christie, TJP

                                      Ardie Savea, Papali'i, Lakai, Finau, Sotutu, Jacobson

                                      Barrett, Tuipolutu, Vaa'i, Darry

                                      Lomax, Newell, Ofa T, De Groot, Williams

                                      Taylor, Aumua, Riccitelli

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                                        Calling a 23:

                                        1 de Groot
                                        2 Taylor
                                        3 Lomax
                                        4 Tuipulotu
                                        5 Darry
                                        6 Ioane
                                        7 Papalii
                                        8 Savea
                                        9 Christie
                                        10 Plummer
                                        11 Clarke
                                        12 J Barrett
                                        13 R Ioane
                                        14 Telea
                                        15 B Barrett

                                        And a pagen ritual before irrival
                                        A brother hood of the upper middle class, burned at the steak.

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                                          who is next into the warkworth forest. To be initiated

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