All Blacks 2024
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Picking a non white as opposed to picking the right person for the job , regardless of colour etc
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Picking a non white as opposed to picking the right person for the job , regardless of colour etc
Diversity picks can be good or bad
Bad is what we often or sometimes have today. Where a person is appointed in preference to someone who is much better based on ability just because they tick the right boxes.
Good is when someone is appointed who is equal to another based on ability but they are chosen because they add to the mix and is appropriate. As Savea as captain would be
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So, last year the ABs had a rather bad run with cards. Red against SA, two Yellows against France, then Red again against SA. What's the plan to fix this?
(Of course, Kolisi hit Savea head to head, and maybe in the air from a lineout take - Barnes is an absolute fuckwit.)
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Picking a non white as opposed to picking the right person for the job , regardless of colour etc
Diversity picks can be good or bad
Bad is what we often or sometimes have today. Where a person is appointed in preference to someone who is much better based on ability just because they tick the right boxes.
Good is when someone is appointed who is equal to another based on ability but they are chosen because they add to the mix and is appropriate. As Savea as captain would be
I am happy with either choice.
There was an article on Savea as captain by Gregor Paul in the herald.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful
Well at least there is some rationale about why he is the AB coach now.
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@Daffy-Jaffy I thought that was weaker than Part 1.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful
Well at least there is some rationale about why he is the AB coach now.
Not some bollocks from NZR which has been the status quo for far too long.@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful
Well at least there is some rationale about why he is the AB coach now.
Not some bollocks from NZR which has been the status quo for far too long.If winning 2 RWC's out of 4 and losing one by only 1 point with 14 men is "status quo bollocks", it's been pretty damn successful status quo bollocks.
NZR's rationale now is to try something completely new - a bloke who's been successful with one Canterbury-based side and with zero Test experience. It's a bold move for sure, one we hope will pay off.
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If you watch the documentary about the last world cup, the footage makes clear that Rieko Ioane's distribution and running lines were both sublime. Best centre in the world by a mile.
@Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
If you watch the documentary about the last world cup, the footage makes clear that Rieko Ioane's distribution and running lines were both sublime. Best centre in the world by a mile.
He's getting there and has to be first of the AB team sheet, but I'd rate Am (when fit) and Fickou above him.
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Richard Knowler doesn't seem to know exactly who will be in the AB squad.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350320280/all-blacks-all-you-need-know-ahead-squad-naming-day
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Liam Napier prediction for the Herald:
Predicted All Blacks squad:
Props: Tyrel Lomax, Ethan de Groot, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Fletcher Newell, Tamaiti Williams, George BowerHookers: Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua, Ricky Riccitelli (uncapped)
Locks: Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa’i, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Darry (uncapped)
Loose forwards: Ardie Savea, Dalton Papali’i, Hoskins Sotutu, Luke Jacobson, Ethan Blackadder/Samipeni Finau
Halfback: T.J. Perenara, Cortez Ratima (uncapped), Finlay Christie
First five-eighths: Damian McKenzie, Beauden Barrett
Midfielders: Jordie Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Rieko Ioane, Billy Proctor (uncapped)
Outside backs: Ruben Love (uncapped), Caleb Clarke, Emoni Narawa, Sevu Reece, Mark Tele’a
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful
Well at least there is some rationale about why he is the AB coach now.
Not some bollocks from NZR which has been the status quo for far too long.If winning 2 RWC's out of 4 and losing one by only 1 point with 14 men is "status quo bollocks", it's been pretty damn successful status quo bollocks.
NZR's rationale now is to try something completely new - a bloke who's been successful with one Canterbury-based side and with zero Test experience. It's a bold move for sure, one we hope will pay off.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
a bloke who's been successful with one Canterbury-based side
Isn't it three?
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Liam Napier prediction for the Herald:
Predicted All Blacks squad:
Props: Tyrel Lomax, Ethan de Groot, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Fletcher Newell, Tamaiti Williams, George BowerHookers: Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua, Ricky Riccitelli (uncapped)
Locks: Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa’i, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Darry (uncapped)
Loose forwards: Ardie Savea, Dalton Papali’i, Hoskins Sotutu, Luke Jacobson, Ethan Blackadder/Samipeni Finau
Halfback: T.J. Perenara, Cortez Ratima (uncapped), Finlay Christie
First five-eighths: Damian McKenzie, Beauden Barrett
Midfielders: Jordie Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Rieko Ioane, Billy Proctor (uncapped)
Outside backs: Ruben Love (uncapped), Caleb Clarke, Emoni Narawa, Sevu Reece, Mark Tele’a
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Liam Napier prediction for the Herald:
Predicted All Blacks squad:
Props: Tyrel Lomax, Ethan de Groot, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Fletcher Newell, Tamaiti Williams, George BowerHookers: Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua, Ricky Riccitelli (uncapped)
Locks: Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa’i, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Darry (uncapped)
Loose forwards: Ardie Savea, Dalton Papali’i, Hoskins Sotutu, Luke Jacobson, Ethan Blackadder/Samipeni Finau
Halfback: T.J. Perenara, Cortez Ratima (uncapped), Finlay Christie
First five-eighths: Damian McKenzie, Beauden Barrett
Midfielders: Jordie Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Rieko Ioane, Billy Proctor (uncapped)
Outside backs: Ruben Love (uncapped), Caleb Clarke, Emoni Narawa, Sevu Reece, Mark Tele’a
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Richard Knowler has named what he thinks the squad will be.
Love, Telea, Reece, Clarke, Narawa
Reiko Ioane, ALB, J Barrett
DMac, Beauden Barrett, Plummer
Ratima, Christie, TJP
Ardie Savea, Papali'i, Lakai, Finau, Sotutu, Jacobson
Barrett, Tuipolutu, Vaa'i, Darry
Lomax, Newell, Ofa T, De Groot, Williams
Taylor, Aumua, Riccitelli
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Calling a 23:
1 de Groot
2 Taylor
3 Lomax
4 Tuipulotu
5 Darry
6 Ioane
7 Papalii
8 Savea
9 Christie
10 Plummer
11 Clarke
12 J Barrett
13 R Ioane
14 Telea
15 B BarrettAnd a pagen ritual before irrival
A brother hood of the upper middle class, burned at the steak. -
1 de Groot
2 Taylor
3 Lomax
4 Tuipulotu
5 Barret
6 Ioane
7 Papalii
8 Savea
9 Christie
10 Plummer
11 Clarke
12 J Barrett
13 R Ioane
14 Telea
15 B BarrettPlus the rest of the 23:
16 Riccitelli
17 Tu'ungufasi
18 Renata
19 Darry
20 Sotutu
21 Renata
22 Lam
23 ALB
