All Blacks 2024
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considering they have to have cover for late injurys they need 3 10s and 2 fullbacks ass Dmac and BB carnt cover both if one injured.
options
At 10 Dmac ,BB and plummer
AT 15 BB,love Stevenson
both pereafeta
considering it is only for 3 matches and only if injury strikes it may be perefeta and free up another player else wear.
as I write I see so many holes in that theory
really looking forward to seeing the team -
I'd hope not Perofeta - there's something about failing to secure your spot as a 1st 5 and going back to 15 and being rewarded with an AB spot that doesn't fit well with me.
Maybe going for a Perofeta/Plummer combination? Or they just wern't impressed by Love during the season.
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I'd rather they just have Plummer and Narawa cover 15 than Perofeta. Plummer is excellent under the high ball
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'd rather they just have Plummer and Narawa cover 15 than Perofeta. Plummer is excellent under the high ball
agreed
plummer easily in top 3 10shas to be a 15 picked to backup BB or start ,for me not all of CC , MT SR and EN can be picked
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I'd hope not Perofeta - there's something about failing to secure your spot as a 1st 5 and going back to 15 and being rewarded with an AB spot that doesn't fit well with me.
Maybe going for a Perofeta/Plummer combination? Or they just wern't impressed by Love during the season.
@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'd hope not Perofeta - there's something about failing to secure your spot as a 1st 5 and going back to 15 and being rewarded with an AB spot that doesn't fit well with me.
Maybe going for a Perofeta/Plummer combination? Or they just wern't impressed by Love during the season.
Love is the best fullback in the country under the high-ball, I can't remember him dropping a ball this year. So when McDonald comes on TV and says they are largely picking their back three based on their ability in the air shows me that he's full of shit and would rather just revert to guys he's worked with before / doesn't have the balls to drop Beauden, who in my view should only be in the ABs as a 10.
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I'm a huge Ruben Love fan but a few points to consider
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his knee didn't look 100% towards the end of the season. He was gimpy
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his best form came at the start-middle of Super Rugby rather than the end - there were a couple of big games he didn't play his best - I presume part of that was the injury.
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the likelihood of Beauden not starting at 15 in a series with under 2 weeks build-up is very low so I'm not sure how much game time would get anyway.
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I'm assuming it was always going to be Dmac at 10 and BB at 15 (and probably the back-up 1st 5 as well).
Everyone else was fighting for the 3rd first 5 or back up FB spot.
@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'm assuming it was always going to be Dmac at 10 and BB at 15 (and probably the back-up 1st 5 as well).
Everyone else was fighting for the 3rd first 5 or back up FB spot.
Why though? Why should Beauden (who's shown f all form as a fullback over the last few years) automatically be selected? This is why the ABs haven't gone anywhere in the last few years, it's because of backward selections like this. Being innovative is what kept us at the top of the pile, we haven't been there for a long time because we keep favouring certain players. Beauden peaked 7-8 years ago, he's not the player that he used to be so why persist with him...
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'm assuming it was always going to be Dmac at 10 and BB at 15 (and probably the back-up 1st 5 as well).
Everyone else was fighting for the 3rd first 5 or back up FB spot.
Why though? Why should Beauden (who's shown f all form as a fullback over the last few years) automatically be selected? This is why the ABs haven't gone anywhere in the last few years, it's because of backward selections like this. Being innovative is what kept us at the top of the pile, we haven't been there for a long time because we keep favouring certain players. Beauden peaked 7-8 years ago, he's not the player that he used to be so why persist with him...
@Canes4life On Beauden 4 year contract must mean he's a done deal
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'm assuming it was always going to be Dmac at 10 and BB at 15 (and probably the back-up 1st 5 as well).
Everyone else was fighting for the 3rd first 5 or back up FB spot.
Why though? Why should Beauden (who's shown f all form as a fullback over the last few years) automatically be selected? This is why the ABs haven't gone anywhere in the last few years, it's because of backward selections like this. Being innovative is what kept us at the top of the pile, we haven't been there for a long time because we keep favouring certain players. Beauden peaked 7-8 years ago, he's not the player that he used to be so why persist with him...
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'm assuming it was always going to be Dmac at 10 and BB at 15 (and probably the back-up 1st 5 as well).
Everyone else was fighting for the 3rd first 5 or back up FB spot.
Why though? Why should Beauden (who's shown f all form as a fullback over the last few years) automatically be selected? This is why the ABs haven't gone anywhere in the last few years, it's because of backward selections like this. Being innovative is what kept us at the top of the pile, we haven't been there for a long time because we keep favouring certain players. Beauden peaked 7-8 years ago, he's not the player that he used to be so why persist with him...
Now do the same with Blackadder and Akira, Havilli and Lam, Bell and literally anybody else.
And the big one for back to the future is TJ, his time has gone, put in the young guys.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'm assuming it was always going to be Dmac at 10 and BB at 15 (and probably the back-up 1st 5 as well).
Everyone else was fighting for the 3rd first 5 or back up FB spot.
Why though? Why should Beauden (who's shown f all form as a fullback over the last few years) automatically be selected? This is why the ABs haven't gone anywhere in the last few years, it's because of backward selections like this. Being innovative is what kept us at the top of the pile, we haven't been there for a long time because we keep favouring certain players. Beauden peaked 7-8 years ago, he's not the player that he used to be so why persist with him...
Now do the same with Blackadder and Akira, Havilli and Lam, Bell and literally anybody else.
And the big one for back to the future is TJ, his time has gone, put in the young guys.
@Kirwan why can't we just pick the best players? If Cane gets in it will be a joke, if Havili gets in it will be a joke, Blackadder shouldn't be there because he actually needs to play consistently to show he's still up there. For me TJ only gets selected because Roigard is still out. Once he comes back I'd assume TJ will be dropped. Another guy we need to move on from.
I'd argue Proctor, Sotutu, Lam and Love were some of the highest performing players in super this year and probably couldn't have done more to warrant selection. If all of them miss out it will be bloody disappointing.
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Devlin's oil is that Pasilio Tosi is in
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Devlin's oil is that Pasilio Tosi is in
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Devlin's oil is that Pasilio Tosi is in
The Southland no8 that now plays prop?
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@SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Devlin's oil is that Pasilio Tosi is in
The Southland no8 that now plays prop?
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Devlin's oil is that Pasilio Tosi is in
The Southland no8 that now plays prop?
That's him! That Southland tried to push to the Landers as a prop. Our management, went, don't be stupid. He's a big bloody 8
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Devlin's oil is that Pasilio Tosi is in
@SouthernMann very interesting, to be fair though the improvement he's shown in the last year has been huge. If he works with better coaches he could be a beast. Again though? Who does he come in for? Lomax and Newell are surely locks, unless they go for 6 props.
