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All Blacks 2024

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    • FrankF Frank

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      What idiot thought putting Kirsty Stanway front and centre of so much of Sky Rugby coverage is a good idea?

      Her voice makes me want to cut my ears off and her knowledge is awful.

      Inclusivity pick.
      At least 2% of the viewership are women.

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      @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      What idiot thought putting Kirsty Stanway front and centre of so much of Sky Rugby coverage is a good idea?

      Her voice makes me want to cut my ears off and her knowledge is awful.

      Inclusivity pick.
      At least 2% of the viewership are women.

      Way too many women who don’t know what they are talking about clogging up our pre game coverage these days. It’s massively off putting. And then add in Wheeler, Tenana etc. it’s pretty cringe.

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        Holland on SENZ

        Reading between the lines they don't rate Sotutu's defensive work as they keep saying both sides of the ball.

        I did chuckle at Holland agreeing that set piece will be huge vs England (then why select Bell).

        Ardie and Sititi both seen as 8s.

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        • TimT Away
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          Any word on Taukei'aho's injury?

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            Devlin nails it with Tosi

            Surely that was leaked to him.

            Out of interest, how many kegs is Tosi carrying these days?

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            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            Out of interest, how many kegs is Tosi carrying these days?

            He said himself about 140.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              Holland on SENZ

              Reading between the lines they don't rate Sotutu's defensive work as they keep saying both sides of the ball.

              I did chuckle at Holland agreeing that set piece will be huge vs England (then why select Bell).

              Ardie and Sititi both seen as 8s.

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              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              Holland on SENZ

              Reading between the lines they don't rate Sotutu's defensive work as they keep saying both sides of the ball.

              I did chuckle at Holland agreeing that set piece will be huge vs England (then why select Bell).

              Ardie and Sititi both seen as 8s.

              lol, Sotutu was part of a team that dominated up front and had the best defence. Are they really trying to say the rest of the back row was covering for him.

              He was excellent in attack and defence for the Blues this year.

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              • KirwanK Kirwan

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                Holland on SENZ

                Reading between the lines they don't rate Sotutu's defensive work as they keep saying both sides of the ball.

                I did chuckle at Holland agreeing that set piece will be huge vs England (then why select Bell).

                Ardie and Sititi both seen as 8s.

                lol, Sotutu was part of a team that dominated up front and had the best defence. Are they really trying to say the rest of the back row was covering for him.

                He was excellent in attack and defence for the Blues this year.

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                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                Holland on SENZ

                Reading between the lines they don't rate Sotutu's defensive work as they keep saying both sides of the ball.

                I did chuckle at Holland agreeing that set piece will be huge vs England (then why select Bell).

                Ardie and Sititi both seen as 8s.

                lol, Sotutu was part of a team that dominated up front and had the best defence. Are they really trying to say the rest of the back row was covering for him.

                He was excellent in attack and defence for the Blues this year.

                Pretty tough break for him. Razor has picked his team, he feels these guys will do the business, now they will have to because he's in the hot seat

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                  Bizarre that all the Chiefs loose forwards were picked after getting so outplayed on Saturday.

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                  • KirwanK Offline
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                    Yeah well Foster took heat for stupid selections, so should Crafty Comb.

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                      Reckon that's 90% of the squad most predicted, a couple tough calls to go with a couple of lucky ones.

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                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        no specialist 15 really. 10/15s and a 12/15.

                        Eh? Beaudy has only started once at 1st 5 in the last 20 test matches, but 12 times at fullback.

                        For me he is a better fullback than 1st 5 these days.

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                        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        no specialist 15 really. 10/15s and a 12/15.

                        Eh? Beaudy has only started once at 1st 5 in the last 20 test matches, but 12 times at fullback.

                        For me he is a better fullback than 1st 5 these days.

                        Damned with faint praise

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                          Holland said they like Perofeta's high ball work and his ability to counter from the back. Said they have been very impressed with him the last few weeks. They see him as a 15.

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                            as ive said before....i will reserve final condemnation for after we actually see the team play...some weird and disappointing selections...but maybe he can get something out of these guys....there is no excuse now if someone like bell has a bad day throwing lineouts

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                              Well, Hansen bored us with selections, Razor doing the opposite!

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                                i really would love to see a squad picked purely on form, no one there on potential or past glory's

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  Holland on SENZ

                                  Reading between the lines they don't rate Sotutu's defensive work as they keep saying both sides of the ball.

                                  I did chuckle at Holland agreeing that set piece will be huge vs England (then why select Bell).

                                  Ardie and Sititi both seen as 8s.

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  Reading between the lines they don't rate Sotutu's defensive work as they keep saying both sides of the ball.

                                  Interesting.
                                  I think this was also what Fozzie and co didn't like.
                                  Flat track bully behind a dominant pack is how they might see him.

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    Reckon that's 90% of the squad most predicted, a couple tough calls to go with a couple of lucky ones.

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                                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    Reckon that's 90% of the squad most predicted, a couple tough calls to go with a couple of lucky ones.

                                    And it is ever thus.

                                    We could go through many a squad naming in the past 30 years and pick out the players that stunned, surprised and even bewildered.

                                    And I’m sure we could all put a provincial/franchise flavour to it

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                                      Guys, guys.

                                      We're missing the wood for the trees.

                                      Strange wasn't selected.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        Guys, guys.

                                        We're missing the wood for the trees.

                                        Strange wasn't selected.

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        Guys, guys.

                                        We're missing the wood for the trees.

                                        Strange wasn't selected.

                                        And cane

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                                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                                          @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          So just to be clear: The team that couldn't make a finals series of top eight in a 12 team competition has more All Blacks than the team that won?

                                          They won how many in a row?

                                          All the crusaders haven't turned to poo because their coach has.

                                          (Not supporting the Bell pick though)

                                          So form means nothing. Got it.

                                          Only if last year you wanted the ABs to be largely Crusaders, by your same logic.

                                          A couple of Blues had very ordinary form in super last year but were still picked. Now it's the crusaders turn.

                                          Nepo Laulala
                                          Ofa Tu’ungafasi
                                          Dalton Papali’i
                                          Finlay Christie
                                          Beauden Barrett
                                          Rieko Ioane
                                          Caleb Clarke
                                          Mark Telea

                                          Which of those had a legitimately better player miss out? Keep in mind I think Laulala offered zero outside of his scrummaging, but if you wanted a rock in that regard I could see why he was picked.

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                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          So just to be clear: The team that couldn't make a finals series of top eight in a 12 team competition has more All Blacks than the team that won?

                                          They won how many in a row?

                                          All the crusaders haven't turned to poo because their coach has.

                                          (Not supporting the Bell pick though)

                                          So form means nothing. Got it.

                                          Only if last year you wanted the ABs to be largely Crusaders, by your same logic.

                                          A couple of Blues had very ordinary form in super last year but were still picked. Now it's the crusaders turn.

                                          Nepo Laulala
                                          Ofa Tu’ungafasi
                                          Dalton Papali’i
                                          Finlay Christie
                                          Beauden Barrett
                                          Rieko Ioane
                                          Caleb Clarke
                                          Mark Telea

                                          Which of those had a legitimately better player miss out? Keep in mind I think Laulala offered zero outside of his scrummaging, but if you wanted a rock in that regard I could see why he was picked.

                                          I would not have ever picked Finlay Christie for the RWC. Nor would half the Fern

                                          Caleb Clarke could consider himself lucky last year, and I thought there were better at the time. He was running powerfully, but his defence remains awful.

                                          I wouldn't pick Beauden Barrett either, then or now. If are talking about people getting in because of their history, then he's top of the list -- more so than any of the veteran Crusaders.

                                          People are getting worked up about Bell, but if the choice is the small and 29 year old Riccitelli, then really? Is RR the future?

                                          The only bad home pick, in my opinion, is Blackadder, who I don't rate and is always broken anyway.

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