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  • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

    These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

    Yeah true, Bell and Sititi have definitely shown that across their storied careers.

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      Others have had 5 years to state their case

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      • MajorPomM MajorPom

        Predicatable arguments after predictable selections.

        I don't have a view either way on Sotutu vs Sititi but thats mainly because my SR watching this year was the 5 minutes highlights in youtube. Sure, Sotutu scored a lot of tries, but I don't really remember seeing him make a lot of them. Sititi was a standout for the Chiefs knockout games which I saw, but he wasn't in the final.

        But good to see some TSF infighting again.

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        @MajorRage said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        I don't have a view either way on Sotutu vs Sititi but thats mainly because my SR watching this year was the 5 minutes highlights in youtube. Sure, Sotutu scored a lot of tries, but I don't really remember seeing him make a lot of them

        The top try scorer was also second on try assists. On the other side of the ball he got plenty of turnovers too, looking at NZ loosies he was only behind Harmon (equal with Jacobson). Ruck arrivals he is only behind Papali'i and Jacobson in NZ. Decent lineout forward too.. second most used NZ target

        He had a hell of a season

        I'm assuming its personal at some level. MacDonald struggled with him early on.

        As for the rest of the squad it's fairly predictable apart from Tosi. You knew which way Robertson would go on certain players regardless of SR performances

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        • BonesB Bones

          So it's being announced? Nothing happening on my YouTube...

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          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

          Yeah true, Bell and Sititi have definitely shown that across their storied careers.

          except they are younger (22, 21) and will get much better, Sotutu is nearly 27.

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            @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

            Yeah true, Bell and Sititi have definitely shown that across their storied careers.

            except they are younger (22, 21) and will get much better, Sotutu is nearly 27.

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            @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            Sotutu is nearly 27

            He's 25

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              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

              Yeah true, Bell and Sititi have definitely shown that across their storied careers.

              except they are younger (22, 21) and will get much better, Sotutu is nearly 27.

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              @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

              Yeah true, Bell and Sititi have definitely shown that across their storied careers.

              except they are younger (22, 21) and will get much better, Sotutu is nearly 27.

              May get better. Sotutu doesn't exactly have a foot in the grave. As Duluth said, the stats don't lie, he was one of the top loosies in SR. It's personal

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @MajorRage said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                I don't have a view either way on Sotutu vs Sititi but thats mainly because my SR watching this year was the 5 minutes highlights in youtube. Sure, Sotutu scored a lot of tries, but I don't really remember seeing him make a lot of them

                The top try scorer was also second on try assists. On the other side of the ball he got plenty of turnovers too, looking at NZ loosies he was only behind Harmon (equal with Jacobson). Ruck arrivals he is only behind Papali'i and Jacobson in NZ. Decent lineout forward too.. second most used NZ target

                He had a hell of a season

                I'm assuming its personal at some level. MacDonald struggled with him early on.

                As for the rest of the squad it's fairly predictable apart from Tosi. You knew which way Robertson would go on certain players regardless of SR performances

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                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @MajorRage said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                I don't have a view either way on Sotutu vs Sititi but thats mainly because my SR watching this year was the 5 minutes highlights in youtube. Sure, Sotutu scored a lot of tries, but I don't really remember seeing him make a lot of them

                The top try scorer was also second on try assists. On the other side of the ball he got plenty of turnovers too, looking at NZ loosies he was only behind Harmon (equal with Jacobson). Ruck arrivals he is only behind Papali'i and Jacobson in NZ. Decent lineout forward too.. second most used NZ target

                He had a hell of a season

                I'm assuming its personal at some level. MacDonald struggled with him early on.

                As for the rest of the squad it's fairly predictable apart from Tosi. You knew which way Robertson would go on certain players regardless of SR performances

                That shows their excuse for non selection is bogus. Not a great start

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

                  Yeah true, Bell and Sititi have definitely shown that across their storied careers.

                  except they are younger (22, 21) and will get much better, Sotutu is nearly 27.

                  May get better. Sotutu doesn't exactly have a foot in the grave. As Duluth said, the stats don't lie, he was one of the top loosies in SR. It's personal

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                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

                  Yeah true, Bell and Sititi have definitely shown that across their storied careers.

                  except they are younger (22, 21) and will get much better, Sotutu is nearly 27.

                  May get better. Sotutu doesn't exactly have a foot in the grave. As Duluth said, the stats don't lie, he was one of the top loosies in SR. It's personal

                  he has a poor attitude judging by his social media and refused to answer Jason Ryan's phone calls last year, it's time to move on, he's overrated and always has been.

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                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

                    Yeah true, Bell and Sititi have definitely shown that across their storied careers.

                    except they are younger (22, 21) and will get much better, Sotutu is nearly 27.

                    May get better. Sotutu doesn't exactly have a foot in the grave. As Duluth said, the stats don't lie, he was one of the top loosies in SR. It's personal

                    he has a poor attitude judging by his social media and refused to answer Jason Ryan's phone calls last year, it's time to move on, he's overrated and always has been.

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                    @ruggabee Be interesting to hear Vern Cotter's take on Hoskin's attitude.

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                      All relationships are personal. Get over it.

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                        The loosies that were work horses this year were Dalton, Sotutu, Jacobson.

                        I've never been a fan of Jacobson but he lifted his game this year. Very surprised there's room for him and Blackadder in the squad though.

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                          Would be interesting who they see as the next 6 from outside the squad (not including Akira or Frizell)

                          Flanders? Grace? Haig? Lio-Willie as a 6?

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                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

                            Yeah true, Bell and Sititi have definitely shown that across their storied careers.

                            except they are younger (22, 21) and will get much better, Sotutu is nearly 27.

                            May get better. Sotutu doesn't exactly have a foot in the grave. As Duluth said, the stats don't lie, he was one of the top loosies in SR. It's personal

                            he has a poor attitude judging by his social media and refused to answer Jason Ryan's phone calls last year, it's time to move on, he's overrated and always has been.

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                            @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            he has a poor attitude judging by his social media

                            Edited (cheers voodoo)

                            Can you show the social media posts showing he has a poor attitude?

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                              @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              he has a poor attitude judging by his social media

                              Edited (cheers voodoo)

                              Can you show the social media posts showing he has a poor attitude?

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                              @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              he has a poor attitude judging by his social media

                              Where have you got that from?

                              Just guessing, but I’d say his social media?

                              🤷🏻‍♂️

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                                Wallace-Sititi looks a far better prospect than Sotutu at test level and he's only 21.

                                It's clear from the eye test Sititi is going to be a test animal. Sotutu is a show-pony.

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                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

                                  Yeah true, Bell and Sititi have definitely shown that across their storied careers.

                                  except they are younger (22, 21) and will get much better, Sotutu is nearly 27.

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                                  @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

                                  Yeah true, Bell and Sititi have definitely shown that across their storied careers.

                                  except they are younger (22, 21) and will get much better, Sotutu is nearly 27.

                                  Hoss was born in 98?

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                                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                    Would be interesting who they see as the next 6 from outside the squad (not including Akira or Frizell)

                                    Flanders? Grace? Haig? Lio-Willie as a 6?

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                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    Would be interesting who they see as the next 6 from outside the squad (not including Akira or Frizell)

                                    Flanders? Grace? Haig? Lio-Willie as a 6?

                                    Suafoa has the physique.

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      The loosies that were work horses this year were Dalton, Sotutu, Jacobson.

                                      I've never been a fan of Jacobson but he lifted his game this year. Very surprised there's room for him and Blackadder in the squad though.

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                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      The loosies that were work horses this year were Dalton, Sotutu, Jacobson.

                                      I've never been a fan of Jacobson but he lifted his game this year. Very surprised there's room for him and Blackadder in the squad though.

                                      Luke at 7 and Ethan at 6?

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                                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

                                        Yeah true, Bell and Sititi have definitely shown that across their storied careers.

                                        except they are younger (22, 21) and will get much better, Sotutu is nearly 27.

                                        May get better. Sotutu doesn't exactly have a foot in the grave. As Duluth said, the stats don't lie, he was one of the top loosies in SR. It's personal

                                        he has a poor attitude judging by his social media and refused to answer Jason Ryan's phone calls last year, it's time to move on, he's overrated and always has been.

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                                        @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        These coaches know who is mentally consistent and focused over a whole season or more. They aren't all that interested in a highlights reel.

                                        Yeah true, Bell and Sititi have definitely shown that across their storied careers.

                                        except they are younger (22, 21) and will get much better, Sotutu is nearly 27.

                                        May get better. Sotutu doesn't exactly have a foot in the grave. As Duluth said, the stats don't lie, he was one of the top loosies in SR. It's personal

                                        he has a poor attitude judging by his social media and refused to answer Jason Ryan's phone calls last year, it's time to move on, he's overrated and always has been.

                                        I think you may want to read this post again https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/post/955354

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          @MajorRage said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          I don't have a view either way on Sotutu vs Sititi but thats mainly because my SR watching this year was the 5 minutes highlights in youtube. Sure, Sotutu scored a lot of tries, but I don't really remember seeing him make a lot of them

                                          The top try scorer was also second on try assists. On the other side of the ball he got plenty of turnovers too, looking at NZ loosies he was only behind Harmon (equal with Jacobson). Ruck arrivals he is only behind Papali'i and Jacobson in NZ. Decent lineout forward too.. second most used NZ target

                                          He had a hell of a season

                                          I'm assuming its personal at some level. MacDonald struggled with him early on.

                                          As for the rest of the squad it's fairly predictable apart from Tosi. You knew which way Robertson would go on certain players regardless of SR performances

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                                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          I'm assuming its personal at some level. MacDonald struggled with him early on.

                                          Why did MacDonald struggle with him?

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